Bison137
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02-12-21 01:35 PM - Post#320685
February 12, 2018 in Sojka. Most will remember it well - and it deserves to be remembered. In a key Monday night game on CBSSN, where Colgate could close to within one game of the Bison in the standings with a win, Colgate appeared to have locked up a win:
- Colgate led by 9 with 36 seconds left.
- Colgate led by 8 with 22 seconds left.
- Colgate led by 5 with 12 seconds left.
But then there was a basket by Foulland on a nice Mackenzie assist, an intentional foul by Colgate, one FT by Nana, a turnover by Colgate near the sideline helped by a bit of contact, and finally the three-point dagger by Kimabl. Result: a 65-64 Bison win that effectively clinched first place.
Video of the final play and celebration: https://twitter.com/Bucknell_Bison/status /96324840...
Longer set of highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNIIK_RbHfg
One other play that deserves note is Mackenzie's traditional three point play after an offensive rebound with 21 seconds left. It cut the deficit from eight points to five.
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Bison137
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02-12-21 01:42 PM - Post#320686
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Also a clip from ESPN's Sports Center:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE94PazJbFE
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02-12-21 03:02 PM - Post#320698
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I was unhappy with that game until the final 20 seconds or so. How quickly emotions can change!
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Bison54
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02-12-21 05:46 PM - Post#320714
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The women's game against Lehigh, while not quite as dramatic, was also a great comeback......hope they can play more
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02-12-21 08:45 PM - Post#320718
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The women's game against Lehigh, while not quite as dramatic, was also a great comeback hope they can play more
This win over Lehigh was even more impressive, coming back from 17 down in the 4th quarter and still down 6 with a minute to play.
https://bucknellbison.com/news/2016/1/13/210634 114...
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Bison137
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02-12-21 10:47 PM - Post#320720
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1. Pomeroy had Bucknell's win percentage at 0.5% when trailing by 10 points with 55 seconds left and the ball in Colgate's hands. CU also led by 7 points and had the ball with 34 seconds left. Perhaps the Bison win proability at that point should have been less than 0.5%. Pomeroy has acknowledged that his algorithm for this calculation is imperfect.
2. Analysis and video clips of the comeback from site "The Comeback": https://thecomeback.com/ncaa/video-video-brea kdown...
Ace CBS Sports Network color commentator Mo Cassara twice in the last 50 seconds said how it was “too little too late†for Bucknell and their “second consecutive loss.â€
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02-13-21 11:05 AM - Post#320727
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One of my favorite parts of watching this is Sean O'Brien's reaction.
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Steve
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Third Anniversary of the greatest comeback in Bison history 02-15-21 03:05 AM - Post#320757
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I went to Colgate from 2006-2010 and saw Bucknell beat CU...
despite losing by 15 in 2007
despite losing by 11 in 2008 (and I believe 7 in the final two minutes of regulation, if my fuzzy memory serves me right)
despite losing by 14 in 2009
despite losing by 13 in 2010
It was brutal, and I felt awful for Emmett Davis (great guy) and those teams (good group of guys too, at least the ones I knew).
Don't need to tell you this but I am anyway: Will never forget Darryl Shazier hitting a corner buzzer-beating 3 in 08 (to force regulation) and 09 at Sojka to win in OT (watched on my computer with a shaky feed if I recall). I remember the 08 one well having been one of 6 people in the stands that day and having a great view of my heartbreak.
09 one was on the same night Colgate M hockey blew a 4-0 lead to Yale and lost 5-4. Not a good day.
Naturally, the 2018 comeback to end all comebacks at Sojka on national TV brought back some terrible memories. Frankly, it didn't surprise me, even if the Langel teams of recent years were better than the Davis ones in the late 00s.
I am conditioned to always believe Bucknell has a chance. Heck, Bucknell almost came back from being down 27-10 in the PL semis in 08 before CU pulled it together. Obviously had a nice comeback for a moment in the 19 Finals before the Raiders pulled away.
The bottom line is if CU is someday 17-0 and BU is 0-17 going into the final regular-season game of the year, I will always assume the Bison have a chance until the final buzzer.
Edited by Steve on 02-15-21 03:06 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Bison137
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02-15-21 11:09 AM - Post#320759
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Thanks for posting Steve. Always enjoy your input.
You arrived at Colgate two years too late for another good ending (for Bison fans anyway). In the final game of the regular season in 2005, Bucknell faced CU (8-5 in the PL) in Sojka for Senior Night. BU led by 10 points with 5 minutes left before CU went on a 12-0 run to open up a late 2-point lead (and possession). But CU turned it over, stepping OB, and then Bettencourt missed a three, rebounded by CU with 10 seconds left. With a chance to clinch the game, Alvin Reed missed the front end of a one-and-one. McNaughton at the other end then had a shot blocked OB with 1.6 seconds left. BU inbounded to Chris Niesz, the team's only senior, well beyond the arc and he drained it as time expired.
While the win didn't affect BU's spot in the PL, it almost certainly affected their ultimate seed in the NCAA tournament. Had they lost, they would have dropped and not ended up facing Kansas, depriving them of a historic victory (although maybe they would have achieved an even more historic win - but I doubt it.)
You mentioned Shazier's shot at Hamilton. What you may not have known is that Shazier, who turned into a very good shooter, struggled early in his freshman year and lost his confidence. For that year, he hit 10-42 (23%) on threes. The game-tying shot at CU was definitely his high point of the season.
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02-15-21 02:51 PM - Post#320770
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It seems like memories are all that we have this season. Will the Bison play again?
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Steve
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02-16-21 02:18 AM - Post#320792
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Wow. I would have lost my mind if I was around in 2005.
I lived and died with those teams (still a big fan but not like when I was a student) and took those losses hard. I always wanted to see CU go to the tournament one time while I was there. Got close in 08.
The worst L's were always against Bucknell, with American getting a solid honorable mention (07 at Gate regular season, 08 PL Finals).
If you're scoring at home, the Colgate Raiders lost double digits leads to Bucknell each year from 2005-06 to 2010-11. Tough.
I also just realized that Bucknell keeps great track of its archives and found the 2008 box: https://bucknellbison.com/sports/mens-basketbal l/s...
I remembered correctly: it was 7 with under 2 minutes left. I had forgotten Daniel Waddy missed two FT before the shot from Shazier, who I admittedly had not even heard of until that night. Can't forget him now. What a clutch shot. Credit to him.
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Third Anniversary of the greatest comeback in Bison history 02-26-21 12:42 PM - Post#321205
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Thanks for posting Steve. Always enjoy your input.
You arrived at Colgate two years too late for another good ending (for Bison fans anyway). In the final game of the regular season in 2005, Bucknell faced CU (8-5 in the PL) in Sojka for Senior Night. BU led by 10 points with 5 minutes left before CU went on a 12-0 run to open up a late 2-point lead (and possession). But CU turned it over, stepping OB, and then Bettencourt missed a three, rebounded by CU with 10 seconds left. With a chance to clinch the game, Alvin Reed missed the front end of a one-and-one. McNaughton at the other end then had a shot blocked OB with 1.6 seconds left. BU inbounded to Chris Niesz, the team's only senior, well beyond the arc and he drained it as time expired.
While the win didn't affect BU's spot in the PL, it almost certainly affected their ultimate seed in the NCAA tournament. Had they lost, they would have dropped and not ended up facing Kansas, depriving them of a historic victory (although maybe they would have achieved an even more historic win - but I doubt it.)
That incredible finish happened exactly 16 years ago today. The OTD feature from Bucknell basketball has a great video. Another "Bingo!" finish. Steve, you've been given advance warning. Watch at your own peril.
https://twitter.com/Bucknell_MBB/status/1 365315688...
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Re: Third Anniversary of the greatest comeback in Bison history 02-27-21 03:15 AM - Post#321225
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Can't say you didn't warn me. That was tough to watch. It appears that little fake or flinch from Lee on the inbounds pass may have led to Alex Woodhouse (I think that's him) staying home in the key, leading to his man in Niesz getting loose.
Interesting to watch the Gate reaction on the other side. Woodhouse sprints through the tunnel. Davis is beside himself and walks toward the stands. Hands on heads.
Little did Gate know that was the tip of the iceberg against the Bison.
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02-27-21 12:20 PM - Post#321230
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Man, talk about wide open!
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Bison137
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02-27-21 01:56 PM - Post#321232
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Steve, I just realized you were a freshman when Colgate suffered what I think was the worst loss in PL history. Specifically when they led AU by two points with 0.2 seconds left and AU inbounding 94 feet away from their offensive basket. With that little time left, of course, by rule they weren't allowed any controlled shot or tip, only what the rules describe as a "tap of a pass".
So if CU just had their players stay by the bench and watch, they had well over a 99% chance of a win. But instead they fell for the oldest trick in the book in the final seconds of a game when a team needs to go 94 feet, i.e. sneaking in a player to set up a screen next to the defender guarding the inbound pass and then having the inbounder suddenly run the baseline to try to create a foul when the defender runs into the screener. I've seen teams run that play about 200 times but only seen it work once, i.e. that afternoon in Hamilton. The refs hate to call it and usually swallow their whistles - but in this case it appeared that Kyle Chones tried to level the screener and they did blow the whistle. That sent a 91% FT shooter to the line at the other end, and of course he made both shots to sent the game to OT, where a CU loss seemed inevitable.
Were you one of the few who witnessed that ending?
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02-27-21 04:15 PM - Post#321244
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That game happened on my birthday. Happy birthday to me. I'll never forget it.
I was on the Coach USA bus on the way home after celebrating my birthday with my family. I was following the game as best I could, but the bus was leaving midgame.
Naturally there were dead zones along the way, so I didn't know what was going on for large swaths of the contest.
One of my best friends (we still talk about it to this day) was trying to text me updates. If I remember correctly, my last update was that Colgate was up big in the second half (they were up 10 I think).
Then it was radio silence, then the bus moved into an area with decent cell phone reception. Got the news then. I was floored.
It was not a good birthday.
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