Bison137
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12-22-21 01:01 PM - Post#331739
https://bucknellbison.com/news/2021/12/21/mens- bas...
Richmond is favored by about 20 points. I wonder if this is the largest spread vs a non-P6 team in the scholarship era.
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BisonRoadWarrior
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12-22-21 01:21 PM - Post#331740
In response to Bison137
Note it’s a 4pm tip, on ESPN+
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Paulie777
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12-22-21 05:34 PM - Post#331764
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
This "taking candy from a baby" offense isn't working. 7 turnovers and counting with a lot of time in the first left.
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Bucknellbisonfan21
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12-22-21 05:38 PM - Post#331765
In response to Paulie777
Timmerman and Screen on the floor together late in the first half is interesting.
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Bison137
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12-22-21 05:55 PM - Post#331771
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Timmerman and Screen on the floor together late in the first half is interesting.
Yes, interesting. Don’t know if Timmerman can guard a power forward, since we know there will be no zone. But Vanderheiden has largely been a non-contributor. Can’t hurt to try something different.
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Bison137
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12-22-21 06:41 PM - Post#331774
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Final score: Richmond 81 Bucknell 50. I think if all elements are considered that a strong case can be made for this being the lowest the program has fallen since before Jim Valvano arrived in 1972. JV was not a savior- that was Charlie Woollum - but he reversed a major decline.
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MrPhillie
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12-22-21 06:53 PM - Post#331776
In response to Bison137
Timmerman and Screen on the floor together late in the first half is interesting.
Yes, interesting. Don’t know if Timmerman can guard a power forward, since we know there will be no zone. But Vanderheiden has largely been a non-contributor. Can’t hurt to try something different.
Yes, I was thinking while listening to some of the game that I’m not sure what exactly JVH consistently contributes. Nice enough guy, it seems, but he doesn’t stand out positively in any way. Rhodes has his shortcomings as well.
Just too many turnovers and poor shooting on the offensive side. Idk what their identity is supposed to be. M2M defense is always an issue against quicker, more athletic teams…maybe that will improve in PL play. I guess good thing for Bucknell that the league is down this year, otherwise it would be a really long year.
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Bison137
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12-22-21 07:08 PM - Post#331777
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Timmerman and Screen on the floor together late in the first half is interesting.
Yes, interesting. Don’t know if Timmerman can guard a power forward, since we know there will be no zone. But Vanderheiden has largely been a non-contributor. Can’t hurt to try something different.
I guess good thing for Bucknell that the league is down this year, otherwise it would be a really long year.
Sadly the patriot league is now ranked 28th out of 32 conferences. That is the worst ranking in the league’s history. If Bucknell had just a mediocre team, they would easily finish in the top four. But unfortunately they are much worse than mediocre and will struggle against a few other awful teams to avoid the last few spots in the standings.
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JimK_LU72
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Richmond Game
12-22-21 08:08 PM - Post#331780
In response to Bison137
As my Dad was a Bucknell graduate and I a Lehigh grad, I feel double pain. The Mountain Hawks Engineered 12 points in the first half last night against Albany. !2 #@$%#ing points!!!!! I hope to be in Lewisburg Thursday January 13 for the match of the Titans.
Brett Reed versus Nathan Davis !!!!
Edited by JimK_LU72 on 12-22-21 08:09 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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bisonmania
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12-22-21 08:35 PM - Post#331782
In response to JimK_LU72
I watched the game. Richmond used 11 players first half and just seemed to be toying with Bucknell. Bucknell went flat in last 9 minutes after getting it down to 10. Bucknell doesn’t have the players plan and simple to compete with a good team. I watched St Francis get destroyed the other night vs Illinois. Maybe they can beat Albany with a good performance.
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MrPhillie
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12-22-21 10:28 PM - Post#331789
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And St. Francis just lost to Khalil Spears’ Robert Morris team whose only other victory was against Lancaster Bible. Albany, even though record is poor, beat Boston College…although a Timmerman-Newman battle could be legendary.
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HuskyColonial
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12-22-21 11:53 PM - Post#331792
In response to MrPhillie
Lancaster Bible is a tough squad. Rumor has it their coach teaches defense.
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Paulie777
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12-23-21 12:29 AM - Post#331793
In response to HuskyColonial
One fundamental Bucknell is lacking in is inbounding the ball. Flannery had this down to a science and watching his teams artfully inbound a ball you could tell they worked on it thoroughly in practice. Paulson had it down to an acceptable level. I've seen better inbounding from middle school intramural teams than this Davis coached Bucknell team. Just cancel practice if you are not going to work on this because you will never get better without improving this glaring fault.
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Bison137
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12-23-21 02:51 AM - Post#331795
In response to bisonmania
I watched the game. Richmond used 11 players first half and just seemed to be toying with Bucknell.
In total Richmond used 16 players. They pulled all of their top five with just under three minutes left- and then their second string outscored the Bucknell first string by three points over the next couple of minutes. Then Richmond went to the third string against Bucknell's second string for the final minute. Once again Bison walk-on Alek Delev was not given any playing time. Not sure why, as he has been suited up for every game I have seen.
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MrPhillie
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12-23-21 07:41 PM - Post#331815
In response to Bison137
I never understand why coaches don’t give players court time in blowouts. And often, then insert a player with like 20 seconds remaining. Disrespectful to the player, imo.
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bison63
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12-23-21 08:13 PM - Post#331817
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Absolutely, if you are not going to get into that game, when will you ever get in to a game?
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bison75
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12-23-21 09:33 PM - Post#331821
In response to bison63
I sat on the absolute end of the bench on my high school team, next to the cheerleaders (I actually thought it was a pretty good seat). Win or lose, the coach always put me in in the blowouts. I scored twelve points my senior year, and remember all of them. It was a great experience, in large part because he always put me in for a couple minutes when he could. I should add that it also goes both ways. Because I was a happy camper and thought I was treated fairly, I practiced really hard and did my best to make the kids who were going to play better. I think that’s a lot more valuable than playing the regulars all the way to the end to keep a 25 point blowout from becoming a 30 point blowout. Just my two cents.
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MrPhillie
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12-23-21 09:40 PM - Post#331822
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Totally agree, 63,and 75. What’s the point in keeping your main rotation players in a 30 point blowout? A few minutes, not just seconds, in out of reach games mean a lot to players who practice hard day in day out but never leave the bench during a game. Don’t care for coaches that can’t see that.
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JPM
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12-26-21 05:22 PM - Post#331849
In response to bison75
'75 - you were a good teammate...
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