SomeGuy
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01-14-22 09:06 PM - Post#333278
The matchups have been counterintuitive thus far in the Ivies, so who knows. I assume Martz gets first crack at Rai, and that will be an interesting matchup. Dartmouth’s bigs have been inconsistent, so on paper not as tough a guard as the first three games in the league for Mosh. But Adelekun has been coming on of late and Krystkowiak has had his moments. A little unclear to me who Dingle guards in this one. I guess Samuels/Cornish.
Like Penn, Dartmouth has played a tough schedule, and I suspect they may finish higher than their current kenpom rank in the league (I would not be shocked if they snuck into the last 4). They are much better than Columbia.
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SomeGuy
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Re: Dartmouth
01-15-22 10:22 AM - Post#333283
In response to SomeGuy
One other observation—Dartmouth is similar to Brown in the sense they are much better on defense than offense. Dartmouth is the second best defensive team in the league (after Brown), and the second worst offensive team (only ahead of Columbia). Which is probably why Brown and Dartmouth had trouble cracking 100 total points against each other last Saturday.
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Go Green
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Re: Dartmouth
01-15-22 01:42 PM - Post#333286
In response to SomeGuy
One other observation—Dartmouth is similar to Brown in the sense they are much better on defense than offense. Dartmouth is the second best defensive team in the league (after Brown), and the second worst offensive team (only ahead of Columbia). Which is probably why Brown and Dartmouth had trouble cracking 100 total points against each other last Saturday.
Brown is much more athletic than Dartmouth. We're a shooting team. If our threes aren't dropping, we have a hard time winning.
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Streamers
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Re: Dartmouth
01-15-22 02:30 PM - Post#333288
In response to Go Green
Penn is -5/-210 for no reason that I can discern. The over is 134. I think they go over that paltry number.
Dartmouth does not present the frontcourt matchup issues Penn is vulnerable to, but they are a Senior-laden team with superior experience.
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SomeGuy
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Re: Dartmouth
01-15-22 02:36 PM - Post#333289
In response to Go Green
Agreed that athleticism isn’t what makes Dartmouth go. However, the way they use Rai and Wade makes them an interesting matchup. They have more length at the 3 and 4 positions than anyone in the league but Brown, and that presents an interesting matchup question.
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SomeGuy
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Re: Dartmouth
01-15-22 02:39 PM - Post#333290
In response to Streamers
Isn’t -5 exactly what kenpom says (assuming 3 points for home court)? That seems exactly right for the line. Though, as my posts make clear, I wouldn’t be surprised if Dartmouth wins. But I think Penn by 5 or so is the right line.
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palestra38
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Re: Dartmouth
01-15-22 03:07 PM - Post#333299
In response to SomeGuy
Did anyone see the lineups--every height was way off?
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Chip Bayers
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01-15-22 03:23 PM - Post#333304
In response to palestra38
Really getting tiresome watching Dingle dribble into a perimeter double team and then throw the ball wildly without a clue where his teammates are. He does this multiple times per game and its in the opponents book on him that they can force him into easy TOs.
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palestra38
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01-15-22 03:30 PM - Post#333306
In response to Chip Bayers
The defense is just ridiculous....allowing a slo-mo drive through 3 Matador defenders
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91Quake
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01-15-22 03:30 PM - Post#333307
In response to Chip Bayers
So how do you feel about him getting blocked on a breakaway after slowing down and going up off two feet?
Not pretty.
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Chip Bayers
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01-15-22 03:32 PM - Post#333309
In response to 91Quake
So how do you feel about him getting blocked on a breakaway after slowing down and going up off two feet?
Not pretty.
Seriously. His decision-making overall last couple games has been dreadful
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91Quake
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01-15-22 03:37 PM - Post#333310
In response to Chip Bayers
Absolutely. Too much hero ball
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dperry
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01-15-22 03:49 PM - Post#333316
In response to 91Quake
Not good execution at the end of the half there.
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01-15-22 04:34 PM - Post#333321
In response to dperry
Both Mosh and Martz with 4 and 7:44 to go.
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Streamers
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Re: Dartmouth
01-15-22 04:39 PM - Post#333322
In response to SomeGuy
I no longer recognize a 3 point HC advantage this year in the Ivy for reasons discussed in another thread.
Same goes for the NFL BTW. Home teams are pretty bad ATS I’m the playoffs in recent years.
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91Quake
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01-15-22 04:45 PM - Post#333325
In response to Streamers
These refs are interesting.
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dperry
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01-15-22 04:45 PM - Post#333326
In response to Streamers
Slack with the big inbounds steal and score, then his brother carries to turn it back over. Up 7 with 4.5 to go.
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dperry
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01-15-22 04:46 PM - Post#333327
In response to dperry
Williams with the steal and the carom off the defender for the turnover.
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Streamers
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01-15-22 04:47 PM - Post#333328
In response to dperry
Notice ESPN thinks we are still 2-0 in the league.
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dperry
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01-15-22 04:50 PM - Post#333330
In response to Streamers
And Jelani again with the strong move for two and the foul.
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