BreakinBison
Sophomore
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Reg: 01-23-06
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03-12-21 02:23 PM - Post#321855
Meeks and Sechan in the Transfer Portal:
https://verbalcommits.com/transfers/Melvin%20Mo rga...
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bisonmania
Masters Student
Posts: 920
Reg: 10-26-07
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03-12-21 03:00 PM - Post#321863
In response to BreakinBison
I wonder if Meeks will end up at St. Joes. He is close with John Griffin.
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MrPhillie
Postdoc
Posts: 2757
Loc: NE PA
Reg: 07-14-08
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03-13-21 03:17 PM - Post#321911
In response to bisonmania
Meeks should end up somewhere decent and hopefully have a great experience. Seems obvious that Bucknell wasn’t going to allow an extra year...that or Meeks said “no thank you.â€
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HuskyColonial
PhD Student
Posts: 1976
Age: 50
Reg: 02-17-12
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03-13-21 03:34 PM - Post#321913
In response to MrPhillie
The Administration needs to get its head out of its butt. There is a balance between our athletics and academics. They’re unbalancing it.
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Bison137
Professor
Posts: 16147
Reg: 01-23-06
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03-13-21 05:37 PM - Post#321916
In response to HuskyColonial
The Administration needs to get its head out of its butt. There is a balance between our athletics and academics. They’re unbalancing it.
Yes, it has becoming more and more unbalanced every year. None of the Bison teams have a level playing field when compared to other PL teams. Ironically, Brian Mitchell, who was no friend of athletics, didn't do too much to hurt the programs. But things have gotten a lot worse under Dr. Bravman, who seemingly figured to be at least neutral about sports. How much is the fault of the Board and other administrators is a question.
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BisonRoadWarrior
Professor
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Loc: Where the Bison Roam
Reg: 08-16-06
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03-13-21 06:04 PM - Post#321918
In response to Bison137
More broadly, I guess the free year is a real bad thing for incoming fall 2021 freshmen...all those D1 players hanging around and clogging up the pipeline and consuming playing time.
How does that all even work with a finite number of scholarships?
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nh2032
Sophomore
Posts: 185
Reg: 02-28-06
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Transfer Portal
03-13-21 06:54 PM - Post#321920
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
More broadly, I guess the free year is a real bad thing for incoming fall 2021 freshmen...all those D1 players hanging around and clogging up the pipeline and consuming playing time.
How does that all even work with a finite number of scholarships?
A lot of bench players getting their scholarships rescinded? Happened plenty in the bigger conferences before and will be much more prevelant in the next few years. Have whatever complaints you want with the administration but the fact they don't break commitments they made is a positive to me.
Edited by nh2032 on 03-13-21 06:54 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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river rat
Sophomore
Posts: 187
Reg: 12-01-06
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03-13-21 07:04 PM - Post#321922
In response to nh2032
I live in Colorado now. Any chance he would consider Colorado state? He would be a great fit for Medved's system. And CSU badly needs another good rebounder. I think he had an offer from Air Force before correct?
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BisonRoadWarrior
Professor
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Transfer Portal
03-13-21 07:06 PM - Post#321923
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
More broadly, I guess the free year is a real bad thing for incoming fall 2021 freshmen...all those D1 players hanging around and clogging up the pipeline and consuming playing time.
How does that all even work with a finite number of scholarships?
And by "clogging the pipeline," I don't mean they're doing something wrong. But offsetting a bad situation from one group's senior year seems to require worsening another group's freshman year.
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Bison137
Professor
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03-13-21 07:37 PM - Post#321924
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
How does that all even work with a finite number of scholarships?
Teams in 2021-22 are allowed to exceed the NCAA scholarship limit to bring back players. After that, I think they have to get back to the scholarship limit the next year - but I'm not sure. For PL schools, it will be determined by the league.
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Bison137
Professor
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Re: Transfer Portal
03-13-21 07:39 PM - Post#321925
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
More broadly, I guess the free year is a real bad thing for incoming fall 2021 freshmen...all those D1 players hanging around and clogging up the pipeline and consuming playing time.
How does that all even work with a finite number of scholarships?
And by "clogging the pipeline," I don't mean they're doing something wrong. But offsetting a bad situation from one group's senior year seems to require worsening another group's freshman year.
Since this year doesn't count for any player, it will create a bad situation for the next four years. Theoretically teams will have five classes on their roster for the next four years.
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HuskyColonial
PhD Student
Posts: 1976
Age: 50
Reg: 02-17-12
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Transfer Portal
03-13-21 10:29 PM - Post#321928
In response to Bison137
The fact Bucknell did not have a wrestling season and the fully fielded NCAA’s are next weekend should speak volumes to under valued athletics.
Edited by HuskyColonial on 03-13-21 10:29 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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DrBison
Junior
Posts: 244
Age: 73
Reg: 12-22-08
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Re: Transfer Portal
03-13-21 11:09 PM - Post#321931
In response to HuskyColonial
The Administration and the faculty are all about academics and all league scholar-athletes, but the vast majority could care less and pay no attention to wins and losses. And we certainly can’t commit any extra money above the bare minimum to athletics. Make the coaches raise funds for their programs.
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Bison137
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Re: Transfer Portal
03-13-21 11:41 PM - Post#321932
In response to DrBison
The Administration and the faculty are all about academics and all league scholar-athletes, but the vast majority could care less and pay no attention to wins and losses. And we certainly can’t commit any extra money above the bare minimum to athletics. Make the coaches raise funds for their programs.
In most cases, the Administration will not allow coaches to raise money for their programs. They are afraid that might leave less money for non-athletic donations. If men's soccer and lacrosse, who don't have scholarships, were allowed to raise money to fund merit scholarships, they would raise a huge amount of money in a very short time. Lax, I'm sure, would quickly have a full complement of scholarships. But they are not allowed to do so.
It was telling a few years ago when Bucknell used to have the spring fundraising days, where money could be directed to a sport or a club or an activity such as chorus, band, dance, etc or to various academic programs. Out of the top 25 in fundraising, 24 were various athletic teams. After that, Bucknell separated sports fundraising from all other - to make it less obvious how much alumni interest is in the area of Athletics.
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DrBison
Junior
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Age: 73
Reg: 12-22-08
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Re: Transfer Portal
03-14-21 07:45 AM - Post#321934
In response to Bison137
For years each coach has been given a fund-raising goal for his or her sport to raise to supplement their budget.
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jkrun80
Postdoc
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Re: Transfer Portal
03-14-21 08:11 AM - Post#321939
In response to DrBison
For years each coach has been given a fund-raising goal for his or her sport to raise to supplement their budget.
You are both right. Coaches are required to fund raise to cover things like travel costs and equipment. But they are not allowed to do fund raising for scholarships. This is, in part, a Title IX issue.
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nitlion
Masters Student
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Reg: 06-18-06
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Re: Transfer Portal
03-14-21 09:59 AM - Post#321962
In response to HuskyColonial
the Ivy's make up roughly half of the EIWA, they haven't had any Athletics in 2020-21, the Bison wrestlers had several non-scoring matches, and 3 EIWA matches, participated in the scaled down Conference tournament, are sending two, Darren Miller 133, and Zack Hartman, a 5th seed at 165 and 10-0to St Louis, this week. A season , like many schools dealing, with a Pandemic , perhaps the best they could do. Penn State wrestlers ended with about the same number of regular season matches.
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Bison137
Professor
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Re: Transfer Portal
03-14-21 01:05 PM - Post#321975
In response to jkrun80
For years each coach has been given a fund-raising goal for his or her sport to raise to supplement their budget.
You are both right. Coaches are required to fund raise to cover things like travel costs and equipment. But they are not allowed to do fund raising for scholarships. This is, in part, a Title IX issue.
Title IX is a red herring. Teams could easily raise funds for scholarships, with the money divided evenly between men's and women's teams. But they are not allowed. Look at Villanova, for instance. Twelve years ago they had no lax scholarships. Then their alums privately raised the money to take them close to being fully funded. They arranged it so that there were no Title IX issues.
Bucknell doesn't allow that sort of fundraising because they are afraid that major donations to support athletics might cut into donations for other things. And because the anti-athletics faction doesn't want to see any money going to sports.
In my case anyway, their position has cost Buckell money. I now direct most of my contributions to athletics and have cut back on my general donations. That will continue until BU decides to let teams have a level playing field.
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Bison137
Professor
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Re: Transfer Portal
03-14-21 01:08 PM - Post#321976
In response to DrBison
For years each coach has been given a fund-raising goal for his or her sport to raise to supplement their budget.
As JKrun pointed out, I was talking about major fundraising for things like facilities and scholarships. Yes, coaches are given fund-raising goals to support things like travel and recruiting. That is mostly to enable Bucknell to spend less supporting athletics. The more the teams can raise, the less Bucknell must spend directly.
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DrBison
Junior
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Age: 73
Reg: 12-22-08
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03-14-21 04:07 PM - Post#321985
In response to Bison137
Bottom line is, without a change in commitment, emphasis, and policy from the Administration, trustees, faculty, and athletic leadership, we will not be the leaders or gold standard of the PL we used to be, but middle of the pack at best. We should aspire to be what we used to proclaim: The leaders in the classroom and on the field of competition. No reason we can’t focus on being both.
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