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PennFan10
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03-29-16 11:04 AM - Post#205438    

hoopdirt is reporting Smith could be named HC at USF as early as Thursday.

http://hoopdirt.com/daily-dirt-32916/


palestra38
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03-29-16 11:27 AM - Post#205440    

Wow......
palestra38
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03-29-16 12:28 PM - Post#205446    

Seems to be a certainty:

http://www.midmajormadness.com/west-coast-conferen...
RHunter3
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RHunter3
03-29-16 12:34 PM - Post#205447    

It's not set in stone. Andre LaFleur is another name that is on the table for that job.
Why take a job in a where you'll be a bottom feeder, when you are at a place that you are at the top of the league?
internetter
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03-29-16 12:38 PM - Post#205448    

True or not, the timing just before the final CIT game is terrible.
west coast fan

palestra38
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03-29-16 01:24 PM - Post#205452    

SF Chronicle report---TV station out there says it is done, sources close to Smith say it is "premature."

http://www.pressreader.com/usa/san-francisco-chr on...
Mike Porter
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Mike Porter
03-29-16 01:30 PM - Post#205453    

Interesting - I hope as a Penn fan that he stays because it's better for the league.

I wonder if Columbia can use this early "leak" to drum up support from donors to pay Smith more?
Chet Forte
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03-29-16 02:37 PM - Post#205456    

One small gesture is to flood Bollinger and Pilling with letters of support. With a MBB alum as board chair, I would think that every reasonable effort is being made to keep him. And if he does leave, I would hope that we do not lose any recruits or underclassmen as a result.

SRP
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03-29-16 02:44 PM - Post#205457    

Hasn't USF been kind of a dumpster fire lately?
RHunter3
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RHunter3
03-29-16 03:39 PM - Post#205468    

USF is a bottom feeder and has been for awhile. With BYU and Gonzaga in the conference it will be hard to win. Santa Clara also made a pretty good coaching change.
OneIvyOne
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03-29-16 03:42 PM - Post#205469    

And you forgot St. Mary's, who beat the Zags twice in the regular season this year.
mrjames
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03-29-16 03:50 PM - Post#205470    

I mean, Kyle has Columbia's five best finishes of the Pomeroy era and No. 7 on that list in six seasons in Morningside Heights.

Prior to Kyle's arrival, I'm pretty sure that people could have accurately described Columbia as an Ivy bottom feeder as well.

I'll wait until this is confirmed to speak in the past tense about things, but I've been a believer that Kyle would head back to the west coast as soon as he got a good offer for quite some time now. As I always remind folks, he would have taken the USD job last year if they could have stomached his buyout.

I think Columbia has a lot of interesting young pieces, but we're all kidding ourselves if we don't see the Lions as rebuilding heading into next year. Kyle has a chance to secure a nice, long-term pay day that he really deserves. I'd wish him well and trust that Pilling and his staff can find the next Kyle Smith.
RHunter3
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03-29-16 03:55 PM - Post#205473    

USF is definitely rebuilding. One of Rodney's friends goes there and is more than like going to transfer out.
If Smith leaves, I would be for giving Phelps a shot.
RHunter3
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RHunter3
03-29-16 03:56 PM - Post#205474    

I did hear that USF may have jumped the gun a bit, because its not a given that he's taking the job.
bradley
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03-29-16 05:35 PM - Post#205478    

I agree that it might make sense for Smith to leave at this point and time as it may well be his opportunity to cash in. With the loss of Lo, Mullins, Cohen and Rosenberg, he may be thinking that the opportunity may not present itself for several years as the Lions go through some growing pains although it would be good for the Ivy League if he stays.

I think that just about every Ivy League Coach who is successful is subject to considering other opportunities whether it is Amaker--if Duke opens up or Henderson if the right job opportunity is presented this year or next, etc. It is rare indeed to have the Pete Carril's of the world stay in one place for a very long time although maybe Amaker and Jones will decide to stay put for the remainder of their careers. It is certainly a huge plus for an Ivy League school to keep a good coach for a long time.

Ivy League may only be able to stay in the middle of the pack for all conferences unless they keep the majority of the best coaches but it will be tough if they do not alter their compensation program.
Tiger69
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03-29-16 08:05 PM - Post#205484    

Sorry for Columbia. But, if I had a choice between working in San Francisco or Morningstar Hgts, for about the same $, it wouldn't be a tough decision.
Tiger69
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03-29-16 08:06 PM - Post#205485    

Sorry for Columbia. But, if I had a choice between working in San Francisco or Morningstar Hgts, for about the same $, it wouldn't be a tough decision.
Old Bear
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03-29-16 08:17 PM - Post#205486    

Same $s, T69, Ya think?
TigerFan
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03-29-16 08:49 PM - Post#205488    

There's no way Smith was going to confirm he is leaving right before the CIT game. If it is true, it was lousy of USF to leak that he was coming before that game and frankly a bad way to start his tenure at the new school.

This strikes me as less of a lateral move than Sydney Johnson's jump to Fairfield but not a big step up. It's hard to keep a west coast guy in the east for long, however. If this is true, I assume he's getting a nice pay day and what for him would be a quality of life upgrade to boot.
Chet Forte
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03-29-16 09:29 PM - Post#205491    

I am told HS departure is now confirmed.

internetter
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03-29-16 09:51 PM - Post#205492    

https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/71 498746711...

Don't know anything more...
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Mike Porter
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Mike Porter
03-29-16 10:00 PM - Post#205495    

Yeah... A response like that indicates he is gone (otherwise it would be easy to deny).
Murph
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03-30-16 06:26 AM - Post#205502    

Man, Smith couldn't wait to get out of here. He couldn't leave fast enough.

I agree Derrick Phelps would be an interesting choice. He's a Queens native and a Christ the King alumnus, so might actually value the position, and not just see it as a stepping stone to some other job.
Chet Forte
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03-30-16 07:16 AM - Post#205504    

Confirmed. Kyle told people last night.

internetter
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03-30-16 08:14 AM - Post#205505    

Lo in NY Post story:
He changed the culture.

And he started Mullins who was 2nd team all Ivy after returning from the concussion having missed more than a year, stuck with Cohen.

Alas, box score readers couldn't handle all of that.
west coast fan

RHunter3
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03-30-16 08:16 AM - Post#205506    

The thing that irks me is we had this conversation during the recruiting process. It's true that a kid commits to a university, but it's the coach and his staff that they really commit to. My son's HS coach and I asked about his plans to stay at CU. It's one reason we decided on CU.
Chet Forte
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03-30-16 09:21 AM - Post#205508    

Stay the course.

Columbia 37P6
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03-30-16 09:22 AM - Post#205509    

Luke and Jeff were both terrific in the Championship Game. Lucas will be an outstanding player. Rodney will be a major part of next year's team. CJ, Nate, KJ and Mike Smith will be part of a high quality backcourt. Patrick Tape and Killingsworth are solid prospects. Based on his record of coaching selections thus far, our AD, Peter Pilling certainly will hire a great replacement, With the victory last night before a packed crowd, the Lions probably set the table for an early December tournament of the top NYC teams including, of course, Columbia. Significant facilities improvements are surely ahead, etc., etc. The future for Columbia University Basketball looks very bright to me!
RHunter3
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RHunter3
03-30-16 09:24 AM - Post#205510    

Rodney's absolutely LOVES CU. MY thing is had he told us this, it would have been on the table in the decision process. We were going to visit Penn, Boston U,and Yale after CU.
There is a good chance that we would have been here anyway. We are in it for the long haul.
RHunter3
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RHunter3
03-30-16 09:26 AM - Post#205511    

The is definitely bright. I would like to see Phelps get a shot, because you want to keep going in the same direction. You don't want to bring in someone that has a different scheme in mind and it's not to the strength of the players that are there.
internetter
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03-30-16 10:07 AM - Post#205512    

Adlesh seems to have good court sense, shoots well. I think he was hurt part of this year.
west coast fan

Chet Forte
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03-30-16 10:10 AM - Post#205513    

PS, how come Castlin and Hickman didn't play in the last two games?

RHunter3
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RHunter3
03-30-16 10:19 AM - Post#205514    

Both are injured
cc66
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03-30-16 11:20 AM - Post#205517    

I'm curious--what's the salary difference between Columbia and SF?

In the meantime, since Smith is leaving, I hope they 1) hire a coach ASAP; and 2) address the uncertainties that will surely arise in the minds of the new recruits.
hoopsfan
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03-30-16 11:32 AM - Post#205518    

As others have noted, USF is in a tough spot in a tough conference. Kyle is taking on a big lift but then he did the same at Columbia so perhaps it is unwise to doubt him. I am certain personal considerations weighed heavily in this decision.

USF of course many decades ago was the very best. Then they had a recruiting scandal and criminal allegations against Quinton Dailey and dropped the program entirely after efforts to clean it up failed. They re-instated it and had some success in the late 70's with Bill Cartwright.

Two coaches ago, Jessie Evans, left mid-contract for supposedly losing control of the program and I believe he ended up winning a lot of money after a protracted law suit. Rex Walters coached for the last 8 years and had some but not consistent success, and had a lot of player turnover, although I think that was more in his early years.

So that is the basketball situation that Kyle is walking into. I'll be curious as to what happens. I am rooting for him.
Chet Forte
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03-30-16 11:35 AM - Post#205519    

There is an unspoken rule in the Ivies, possibly breached by Harvard with Amaker through a booster group, that a head coach will not get paid more than a full professor. My guess is that Kyle, who is still relatively young, was making around 250K and that he probably would have doubled that at USF. This is part of the same Ivy philosophy that precludes the 8 schools from granting athletic scholarships. Great Ivy coaches like Bagnoli, Murphy and Joe Jones do not stay around for the money but for the many other benefits of coaching at one of these great schools. While I am grateful to Kyle for elevating our program, I am disappointed that he chose to walk and hope that his successor does not view this job as a stepping stone. This is very similar to the Craig Robinson and Sydney Johnson moves from Brown and Princeton.

RHunter3
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RHunter3
03-30-16 11:40 AM - Post#205520    

I'm hearing the NJIT coach is high on the list as well as the current associate head coach.
RHunter3
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RHunter3
03-30-16 11:43 AM - Post#205521    

The good this is there are still alot of great pieces left on the team. We are loosing a great bunch of seniors, but the young guys can play. I'm hearing that they will be better defensively for starters. We will also be underestimated going into the season. I think it's going to be more of a reloading year not so much as rebuilding.
Chet Forte
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03-30-16 11:54 AM - Post#205523    

Is Carlin Hartman a candidate?

RHunter3
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RHunter3
03-30-16 12:14 PM - Post#205524    

No sure, but he would be a great choice
hoopsfan
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03-30-16 12:31 PM - Post#205525    

Carlin would be a great choice but (at least until our opening) if he were able to go somewhere this year it would have been James Madison or Tulane where he has deep connections. His problem is that Rice has not won enough yet for him to be marketable in this cycle of openings.
Dr. V
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03-30-16 01:12 PM - Post#205526    

Kyle is walking into a challenging situation, but my guess is that his decision is dictated as much by family considerations as anything else. He and his wife have 3 very young sons. Both her family and his father are on the West Coast, so I presume that the attraction of being closer to family is significant.
Dr. V
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03-30-16 01:18 PM - Post#205529    

Regarding next year, the big question mark is where will we get the three point shooting that Maodo, Grant and Rosie provided?
RHunter3
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RHunter3
03-30-16 01:18 PM - Post#205530    

I just read that there is mutual interest between Bruce Weber and CU. Interesting prospect.
pennhoops
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03-30-16 01:21 PM - Post#205531    

From a disinterested party, I'd say if Jim Engels shows the slightest interest I'd take him in a heartbeat.
skiba34
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03-30-16 01:28 PM - Post#205532    

  • RHunter3 Said:
I'm hearing the NJIT coach is high on the list as well as the current associate head coach.



Coach Jim Engles of NJIT is an excellent coach based on my own personally and professional experiences of knowing him. Engles is definitely knowledgeable about all the ins and outs associated in dealing with IVY league schools. He is also, in my opinion, a very player friendly coach and would do well with Columbia's current pool of talent. Without knowing all the other candidates as HC, I couldn't say if Engles should be top choice, but I will definitely endorse Coach Engles as a good one.

palestra38
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03-30-16 01:38 PM - Post#205533    

He took a program that was perhaps the worst situation in the country, with no league, virtually winless record and horrible facilites in a depressing location and made it a consistent winner. Frankly, I think he could make a bigger jump than Columbia, but if CU can get him, that would be an excellent choice.
mrjames
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03-30-16 01:39 PM - Post#205534    

I cannot wait until we get to see how serious Columbia is about putting chips on the table here. Huge data point that will be exciting to see.
Chet Forte
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03-30-16 01:45 PM - Post#205535    

I suspect that there will be a lot of interest in this job. The turnout last night was fantastic. This team has some excellent talent and a few really good looking recruits. The new AD is a closer.

internetter
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03-30-16 02:47 PM - Post#205540    

Check out @IvyHoopsOnline's Tweet: https://twitter.com/IvyHoopsOnline/status /71523823...
west coast fan

Chet Forte
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03-30-16 03:44 PM - Post#205542    

I actually found this article to have the unintended result of being a real downer. The conclusion left me pretty cold.

Columbia 37P6
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03-30-16 04:04 PM - Post#205545    

Our new head basketball coach must be at least two things: (1) A great recruiter; and (2) A great game coach. I do agree with Chet that there will be many persons interested in the Columbia position. Derrick Phelps, Carlin Hartman and Jim Engles are three of the obvious early possibilities but there are numerous outstanding college assistant coaches with connections to New York City who would jump at the chance to return to New York. Also, keep in mind, that our Head Football Coach, Al Bagnoli and his staff have already successfully created and implemented a recruiting platform that is second to none in the Ivy League and can be used by both of our Men and Women's Basketball Coaches to attract the best and brightest to Morningside Heights.
mrjames
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03-30-16 04:17 PM - Post#205546    

I wouldn't weight those two equally. This is a Jims and Joes league, folks. You can win with great players and mediocre players, but you can no longer win in this league with mediocre players and great coaching.
RHunter3
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RHunter3
03-30-16 04:18 PM - Post#205547    

Don't forget that Bruce Weber has been linked to the opening as well.
bradley
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03-30-16 05:07 PM - Post#205548    

  • mrjames Said:
I cannot wait until we get to see how serious Columbia is about putting chips on the table here. Huge data point that will be exciting to see.




Losing a good coach like Coach Smith to SF says something about the Ivy League. I realize that personal and geographical considerations come into play but it appears that the Ivy League is still a stepping stone for good young coaches. I would not be the least bit surprised if Coach Henderson leaves Princeton next year after taking a run with his group of seniors. Next year, he may be in his best marketing position as Coach Smith was this year with his group of seniors.

Until the Ivy League colleges start to pay head coaches and assistants like they want to be a better conference than 15 out of 32, it will remain a one NCAA tournament bid league with a rare exception. Unlike football, it is a sport that the Ivy League could make a much stronger commitment without costing an enormous amount of money. I doubt that it will happen.
randal7
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03-30-16 05:29 PM - Post#205549    

I'm going to let you all in on a little secret... the players don't like Smith. Him going may actually help unify this team and, if the right guy is hired, this team can potentially reach new heights.

Smith is a great evaluator of talent and a pretty good recruiter. Not a good game day coach. And we've all seen that first hand.
Dr. V
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03-30-16 05:43 PM - Post#205550    

And you know what you allege in your first paragraph on the basis of what?
randal7
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03-30-16 06:05 PM - Post#205551    

Not sure how you'd like me to answer this question. Because I know? Theres alot I'm not divulging, this is high-level stuff.

How about this -- anybody care to contradict me? Better yet, perhaps someone else who also is well aware of this truth can just say, "YEP. That's correct".


RHunter3
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RHunter3
03-30-16 07:01 PM - Post#205553    

I've got 1st hand knowledge and I haven't heard this.
umbrellaman
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umbrellaman
03-30-16 07:03 PM - Post#205554    

Meh - if the coach is good, they don't have to love him. If the coach is doing a good job, they don't love him or her, until years later.
umbrellaman
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umbrellaman
03-30-16 07:07 PM - Post#205555    

You look at mid-majors losing coaches after making their runs in the tournament - the good programs reload the coaches too. An up or out mentality isn't the worst thing for an Ivy program, if it can establish itself as a good situation for a promising young coach. I would have guessed the Henderson was more of the "lifer" type, but maybe that's why Brian Earl decided to hang on.
TheLine
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03-30-16 09:53 PM - Post#205557    

  • umbrellaman Said:
Meh - if the coach is good, they don't have to love him. If the coach is doing a good job, they don't love him or her, until years later.


Word.

Fran Dunphy comes to mind.

Columbia 37P6
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03-30-16 09:56 PM - Post#205558    

Bruce Weber is a class act, but his annual salary exceeds $2,000,000 and his contract with Kansas State provides for a $2,500,000 buyout which is just too pricey for most schools including Columbia and any other Ivy.
SomeGuy
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03-30-16 11:38 PM - Post#205561    

Seems like the response you got makes it pretty clear that one of the players liked him. That's 1-0. And that's in spite of feeling like Smith wasn't totally straight about his plans for the long haul.

That said, I suspect just about every coach has a player on the bench who doesn't particularly like him. How coaches interact with their players has changed a lot over time (IMO, for the better) -- just ask Coach Donahue at Penn about how his approach has changed. But you're still making a decision as to who is going to ride you for 4 years and push you to be the best player you can be. That push is going to make a couple of guys unhappy, particularly if they aren't playing. So I think you can always find somebody around the team who is unhappy, and if you listen to that guy (or guys) alone, you can get the impression that the players don't like the coach.
Bison137
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03-31-16 12:26 AM - Post#205562    

  • palestra38 Said:
He took a program that was perhaps the worst situation in the country, with no league, virtually winless record and horrible facilites in a depressing location and made it a consistent winner. Frankly, I think he could make a bigger jump than Columbia, but if CU can get him, that would be an excellent choice.




I also like Engles a lot. Not sure about the last sentence however. He has interviewed for at least a couple of jobs that aren't higher level than Columbia - and failed to get them. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he were interested in Columbia and would take the job if offered.



Billy Hoyle
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03-31-16 02:12 AM - Post#205563    

  • Columbia 37P6 Said:
Bruce Weber is a class act, but his annual salary exceeds $2,000,000 and his contract with Kansas State provides for a $2,500,000 buyout which is just too pricey for most schools including Columbia and any other Ivy.



I think lookatme3 got confused when he read that Bruce Weber was seen in Manhattan and forgot that KSU is located in Manhattan, KS.
I can hear Jimi!

Billy Hoyle
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03-31-16 02:14 AM - Post#205564    

  • RHunter3 Said:
I've got 1st hand knowledge and I haven't heard this.



I've got to trust desperateforattention3 here. If there was inside information to confirm this allegation he would have run to the board to tell everyone months ago.
I can hear Jimi!

sparman
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03-31-16 07:15 AM - Post#205565    

Probably repeating what others have opined from time to time (hey, never be shy about copying someone's else's good ideas) but the schools can maintain lower salaries if they either offer job security (i.e., don't fire coaches for coming in last) or accept constant turnover. We've seen the first approach - which I think was the general norm for decades - rapidly erode. IMO the second approach is probably still vaguely acceptable to most school administrators (not ADs) although I also suspect administrators are finding it much tougher to recruit new ADs unless they commit to being more competitive and that may be where the pressure really gets applied.
Murph
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03-31-16 07:19 AM - Post#205566    

  • randal7 Said:
I'm going to let you all in on a little secret... the players don't like Smith. Him going may actually help unify this team and, if the right guy is hired, this team can potentially reach new heights.




Interesting post. I sure would like verification on that, one way or another.

randal7
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03-31-16 08:01 AM - Post#205567    

I've spoken to many of the players -- some of them since smith left. The reaction has been one of indifference. All the players suspected at the start of the year that smith was going. They also knew they had a loaded team and could win the ivy.

The main stuff the players dislike about him is the odd personnel moves he makes during games, the rigidity with which he makes the players run the offense (you do anything outside it and you are getting the hook), the yelling and meltdowns he has during the games in the huddle (he's not at all inspirational during the game) and the fact that he didn't let this senior laden team run and do some of the things they were fully capable of doing. The guys I've spoken to feel like this season woukd have ended with an ivy league championship with a different coach.

Did you see guys embracing the coach postgame during the aftermath of the CIT final? Ask yourself who dumped the water cooler on him. Didn't happen. A player dumped a cup of water on his head. Smith is not adored or beloved or even liked. He's not hated either, won't go that far. But he's definitely not a guy that the players feel connected to.
bradley
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03-31-16 09:48 AM - Post#205569    

If I had to make an educated guess, I would suspect that similar comments would be made about many successful coaches. Think of a coach like Jim Boeheim -- does every player or most players love him???

I remember hearing similar things about Coach Henderson when he took over the Tiger program. Apparently, many of the players wanted Brian Earl and there was a transition period for Coach Henderson.

In a perfect world, the coach would win and be loved/respected by the players but at the end of the day, the won-lost record is the test that is the final determinant. Smith did pretty darn well when you consider the track record of his predecessors.
RHunter3
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03-31-16 09:56 AM - Post#205570    

I have a kid on the team and he loves Coach Smith and he says the team does as well.
He would also tell me if he didn't.
Chet Forte
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03-31-16 10:35 AM - Post#205571    

This job will be filled in a week or so. I am told there is a short list of great candidates. This move by Kyle, I am told, was based largely on the fact that he is a west coast guy, his in-laws and his father live on the west coast, and he is basically going home. From what I have been told, money was not an issue and Columbia pays a very nice package.

Chet Forte
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03-31-16 10:37 AM - Post#205572    

PS, what I don't know is what is being done by the assistants and the AD to make sure the excellent incoming class is OK.

cc66
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03-31-16 10:51 AM - Post#205573    

Apart from playing time, the question of who liked and disliked Smith comes down to questions of personal style. I think Smith was honest about how he allocated playing time and pretty straightforward with his players. What he wasn't was fuzzy and emotional. If you were looking for an emotional mentor-mentee connection, that wasn't Smith.

Re Phelps: I'm curious as to why he seems such a blank slate. You used to hear a lot about Hartmann as an assistant coach, but Phelps has had a very low profile in the program, to the point that he almost seems to have disappeared. I'd like to know if this is a misperception on my part. If it isn't, I think I'd prefer Engles.
RHunter3
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03-31-16 11:39 AM - Post#205575    

The kids love Phelps. He a players coach and connects with the team well. I know one assistant is going with Smith to USF. They are hoping to keep the rest on board.
randal7
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03-31-16 12:09 PM - Post#205576    

We have different information then haha.

I am very close with several starters. That's where my info is coming from. And I asked them whether they wanted to keep on any of the assistants or felt a strong emotional bond to them and the response was "not really"

One guy they do love is the sports psychologist. Apparently he's very good. If only we could get HIS take on the players view of Smith -- that would make for some awesome reading.

Also want to be clear I don't have an axe to grind with Smith. If you've noticed I never spoke out against the guy like this while he was the coach. You support the team and the staff as best you can while they are in the roles. But I think in our heart of hearts we know this team was stacked and SHOULD have won the Ivy. It was a great year -- no doubt. But it should and could have been better.
Murph
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03-31-16 12:38 PM - Post#205579    

Phelps seems like a Tommy Amaker clone. PG and four year starter for a North Carolina ACC school, including a National Champion. Phelps has a much longer professional career as a player, but much less experience as a coach than Amaker.

Only Phelps has the added benefit of hailing from NYC, and attending a prestigious Catholic high school basketball program that boasts notable alumns such as Lamar Odom, Jayson Williams, Omar Cook, Speedy Claxton, Khalid Reeves, Erick Barkley, Sue Bird, Tina Charles and of course Phelps. We need to tap into that pipeline, and Phelps is the way to do it.

And let's face it folks, for what Columbia has available to pay a coach, we would probably be better off hiring a less experienced guy like Phelps for less money, and trying to cultivate him as a successful head coach, who's interested in staying.

Piling should hire Phelps on a interim basis. If he doesn't work out then fine, but we should find out first.
RHunter3
Junior
Posts 281
RHunter3
03-31-16 12:40 PM - Post#205580    

I guess so. We talk every few days. I can say the team is a close knit group, which matter most. They will play for each other
The team was definitely stacked. My complaint is they gotta defend better and be willing defenders.
If they get a coach that can utilize the talent that's coming back to their strengths we
ll be very good next year as well. One of the coaches think that they will be better defensively right away.
Columbia 37P6
Postdoc
Posts 2180
03-31-16 01:51 PM - Post#205585    

Summing up the Kyle Smith Era at Columbia, I would say that he was an outstanding basketball coach who achieved much more success than his predecessors despite having to overcome adversity in the form of several unfortunate injuries to key players. More than that, Kyle took the program to new heights in a period when the competition in the Ivy League was much more fierce than ever before. And he did that without embarrassing either Columbia or the Ivy League thru recruiting violations and the like. Kyle will be remembered also a superb game coach who rarely made mistakes before, during or after the game. Kyle also understood that basketball is a team sport played by five individuals at a time and whether a team won or loss usually resulted not from the individual performance of one player but all five. Finally, Kyle was a class act, a gentleman, a very good communicator and an all-around nice guy. I thank him for all he has done for Columbia Basketball and wish him and his family well in San Francisco. Good Luck Kyle!
RHunter3
Junior
Posts 281
RHunter3
03-31-16 02:02 PM - Post#205587    

I love him and his approach to coaching and recruiting. I wish he would have stayed, but now we need to a great replacement. We also need to put USF on the schedule
Murph
Masters Student
Posts 626
03-31-16 02:58 PM - Post#205594    

So Christ the Kings 2016 graduating seniors have committed to Arizona, Holy Cross, Robert Morris and Maine. Yikes!

Hiring Phelps on an interim basis is a no brainer. Not only does he have great potential as a recruiter, he already knows Columbia's players and remaining coaching staff.

This a low risk, high reward move.
sr
Freshman
Posts 36
03-31-16 03:24 PM - Post#205595    

i would think it would be next to impossible to recruit good players as an "interim " coach
cc66
Postdoc
Posts 2204
03-31-16 03:36 PM - Post#205597    

On the contrary, the academic standards of these schools suggest that phelps connection would be moot. If no one could get into Columbia, why hire a basketball coach with those ties?

Murph
Masters Student
Posts 626
03-31-16 03:47 PM - Post#205599    

Lower the standards to compete with Harvard and Yale.

Why would a kid play at Holy Cross or Robert Morris, if he could get recruited by Columbia?

We need a coach with a vision.
Chet Forte
Postdoc
Posts 2973
03-31-16 03:58 PM - Post#205601    

We also need a coach who can live by the academic standards to which we are required to adhere to be part of the Ivy League.

cc66
Postdoc
Posts 2204
03-31-16 03:59 PM - Post#205602    

You mean so he can then flunk out? Surely, you don't want to treat basketball players in such an instrumental fashion?
mrjames
Professor
Posts 6062
03-31-16 04:53 PM - Post#205606    

  • Quote:
Lower the standards to compete with Harvard and Yale.




Hey, if you keep saying it enough, maybe it'll become true!!!

I'm always curious why this ridiculous lie has so much staying power. I blame the secretive nature of the AI. Regardless, it's a completely false sentiment.
LionFan
Senior
Posts 398
03-31-16 06:29 PM - Post#205612    

The reason to appoint an interim coach is if you can't hire a permanent one, like a midseason resignation. No reason for it here, especially where you don't want to interrupt the delicate momentum the program now has. Also, with Columbia's national reputation and recruiting footprint, it doesn't make sense to hire a coach because he is known at a couple of high schools whose athletic academics don't generate regular, bona fide Ivy candidates. If NYC Catholic school athletes are qualified and would consider staying home, Columbia will be in the mix, especially if Smith's progress is sustained or improved on. I think CU's talent level already is better than Robert Morris and Holy Cross. Why recruit downward?
SomeGuy
Professor
Posts 6413
03-31-16 10:10 PM - Post#205616    

I don't think the academics of the schools tell you anything at all about the players. It's not like Arizona won't take a kid with a high AI.

Moreover, Cohen probably had Ivy offers, and the Patriot also uses the AI, if I remember correctly. I think Yale and Brown were involved. Not sure if Columbia was. If they were not, I kind of doubt academic standards were the reason.


Murph
Masters Student
Posts 626
04-01-16 04:43 AM - Post#205625    

Exactly. How do we know these Catholic school kids can't meet the academic standards, whatever they may be, unless we try to recruit them? Who knows, maybe a guy like Phelps can inspire some of these kids to want to stay in NYC and play at a great school, in a league that's getting better and better and getting more and more national exposure.

And I only say hire Phelps on a interim basis, because that worked so well with the women's basketball coach.
TheLine
Professor
Posts 5597
04-01-16 08:10 AM - Post#205627    

Pre-AI there was a good pipeline of city kids going to the Ivies - most notably NYC kids to Columbia and Philly kids to Penn. The public school well has dried up completely. Having a couple of nieces in the NYC public school system it's obvious why - if you want to go Ivy you need to go to an academic magnet school like Bronx Sci or Sty and none of those schools are good at basketball. Go to a non-academic school and it's difficult or impossible to get the type of mentorship you need to go Ivy. There's some hope that the right coach can develop a pipeline with the Catholic schools, not that it's going to be easy to do. Smith was actually reasonably successful when compared to his peers - first Davis out of a NYC Catholic school and now Mike Smith out of a Chicago Catholic school.

cc66
Postdoc
Posts 2204
04-01-16 08:18 AM - Post#205628    

Sure, some recruits who function above the rim academically may go a better basketball school on the misguided assumption that they end up in the NBA. I, however, am betting that 1) the list of schools Murph cited DO reflect a lower level of academic skill than is required to get into Columbia; and 2) if contact with such students is Murph's argument for why we should hire Phelps, there are very, very few such students, which makes Murph's argument pretty weak.
LionFan
Senior
Posts 398
04-01-16 10:27 AM - Post#205636    

Also in the background of the discussion is the assumption that NYC Catholic and public schools are not on the recruiting radar. I doubt that's true. Why would a coach pass up another Ricky Free (Boys), Heyward Dotson (Stuyvesant), or Jim McMillian (Madison) - or another CJ Davis - in his own backyard? Sounds far-fetched to me. There are other reasons they're not coming. Assuming the coaches are incapable of recruiting them is unlikely.
LionFan
Senior
Posts 398
04-01-16 10:40 AM - Post#205637    

Another wildcard in this is whether high academic city kids who show promise as athletes are recruited to private prep schools in NYC and boarding. It could be that some of the most qualified kids are no longer staying in the PSAL or NYCHSAA. Might be an interesting study to see how many city kids end up at Ivies through the New England preps.
SomeGuy
Professor
Posts 6413
04-01-16 11:17 AM - Post#205641    

Agreed that we shouldn't assume that these kids can't qualify. My only caveat to your point is that the coaching staff likely has a very good sense of who meets the AI and who does not. Maodo Lo not withstanding, there aren't a lot of hidden gems out there -- the Ivy schools know who the AI compliant kids are.
SomeGuy
Professor
Posts 6413
04-01-16 11:30 AM - Post#205642    

Well, I hate to get into anything that undermines all the great things that our league has to offer, but . . . I think a high AI kid's decision to go to an Arizona may be a little more complex than a "misguided" assumption about playing in the NBA. At just about any less selective institution, there are going to be plenty of opportunities both academically and in terms of the foundation you build for the future. A lot of basketball players don't take advantage of these opportunities, but they are there.

The example I always use for this: in my law school class, there was one student who had multiple law firm offers the moment we stepped in the door (while the rest of us were scrambling for summer associate jobs, etc.). It wasn't any of the dozens of students who went to Ivy schools for undergrad. It was the one guy in our class who played high major college basketball.

More strong basketball players are choosing Ivy schools now, which is great, and I think is a reflection of how many players are thinking about how their basketball careers can set up the rest of their lives. But that doesn't necessarily mean that an Ivy school is the only place to go to do that. There are lots of ways that basketball can be a stepping stone to other things.
Columbia 37P6
Postdoc
Posts 2180
04-01-16 12:21 PM - Post#205644    

I agree with SomeGuy, Murph and everyone else on this Board who are saying that Columbia's next Head Basketball Coach needs to make a major effort to attract outstanding players from the New York Metropolitan Area. However, we have all been stating that for years, and what is more important, in my opinion, is that we need to step up our recruiting on a national level and attract that same type of 3 and 4 star players as Harvard has coming in this fall. Now I realize that there are doubters out there who feel that Harvard has an "institutional advantage" over the other seven Ivy League schools, and to some degree they may be true, but the fact is that Columbia, and for that matter, all of the other seven Ivies have their own "institutional advantages," as well. Taking Columbia Football as an example, the naysayers have been saying for years that Columbia couldn't recruit at the same level as the other Ivies. Well, guess what, Coach Bagnoli and his staff destroyed that myth overnight and the incoming class is rated as the second or third best FCS in America. Not only that, but for those of us who follow Columbia football recruiting, it is exciting to know that the Lions just hit a new recruiting milestone by being the first Ivy League School to reach the "100 Mark" in Rivals Recruiting, meaning that 100 top players nationally have already expressed an interest in Columbia. I doubt that has ever happened before. What it means is that Columbia Football is hot, very hot and that more academically minded high school players are interested in Columbia than Harvard at 57, or any other Ivy. Not to belabor the point, but Columbia's new Head Basketball Coach just needs to replicate what Coach Bagnoli and his staff are doing to be successful.

IvyHoopsFan01
Freshman
Posts 68
04-01-16 12:53 PM - Post#205645    

I agree. The changes in the Financial Aid has made the Ivy League far more competitive on a national basis for recruiting 3-star and 4-star athletes in both football and basketball. In past, we tended to focus our recruiting on the northeast region. Now, all of the Ivies are aggressively recruiting nationally and even selectively on a global basis.

That said, since New York is a hotbed for prime basketball talent, the next coach should continue to try to find additional CJ Davis players who may need to use a PG year to enroll at CU.

SomeGuy
Professor
Posts 6413
04-01-16 01:48 PM - Post#205655    

The other thing for Columbia is that I think you have (or will soon have) the opportunity to recruit the same 3/4 star kids that Harvard is looking at, even if you concede that Harvard has institutional advantages that will give them their pick of the 3/4 star crop. Harvard's profile has grown and the number of 3/4 star kids considering them has grown. Perhaps next year's class is an outlier, but if it isn't, there will soon be more 3/4 star players thinking about going the high academics route than Harvard can take. They can't take 7 kids every year. Even if Harvard has a brand advantage, Columbia still has an excellent brand that ought to be very appealing to a kid who wants a great education from a well-known school while playing high level basketball.
Columbia 37P6
Postdoc
Posts 2180
04-01-16 02:15 PM - Post#205657    

I do agree with you again. In fact, logic suggests that Harvard's coaching staff is going to have a problem keeping everyone happy. Very few schools recruit as many studs as Harvard has in its incoming class. Not everyone wants to sit on the bench for three or four years if they can start someone else and get an excellent degree.
cu hoops fan
Freshman
Posts 43
04-04-16 07:19 AM - Post#205716    

I have similar inside info and all your points are accurate. Tolerating a coach and having a real and personal connection to him are very different. It was the negative things described by the players that resulted in Smith's inability to truly inspire his team. They did it for each other and themselves but not the coaching staff. The level of inspiration is what sets equally talented teams apart and the lack of inspiration significantly held back a very talented group of seniors. It is best that he is gone.
cc66
Postdoc
Posts 2204
04-05-16 04:01 PM - Post#205783    

Kyle's gracious goodbye:


http://features.columbiaspectator.com/sports/2016/...
internetter
Postdoc
Posts 3400
04-05-16 07:27 PM - Post#205790    

Never having played college ball, I can speculate, only.

Given the apparent good feeling among the players, this year and last, it seemed natural they played for themselves, primarily. I think most other teams do.

And, I never saw his teams hug Rohan with all of the success they had.

Ditto Wooden and Knight.

As for Smith, those who know the game seem to evaluate him differently. What I saw on screens was a resilient team that didn't let bad stretches cause panic. Whether that's attributable to just the team is hard to tell, for me, at least.

I leave that conclusion to others, those who have attended games or not, those who read boxscores, whatever.













west coast fan

SomeGuy
Professor
Posts 6413
04-05-16 08:33 PM - Post#205792    

Ultimately, all most of us can do is give credit and/or blame to everybody involved. I don't think it is fair, generally, to give credit for all the positives to the kids and the negatives to the coach. The opposite isn't fair either, of course.

I will say, though, that a couple of the comments on here give me pause about the character of the team. Hopefully, the posters are taking some lukewarm comments about the coach and extrapolating those out into bigger themes about not winning a championship. If the players attitude about it is that the coach held them back, that strikes me as the type of attitude that results in not winning a championship. Coach has responsibility for the team's attitude, too, of course, but some of that has to fall on the players. The life lesson should be to take responsibility when you don't reach a goal -- not to find somebody else to blame.
Old Bear
Postdoc
Posts 3998
04-05-16 08:55 PM - Post#205793    

Sorry, SG, you've missed the essence of these boards. Our role is to find someone to blame, and dammit we're good at that!
Murph
Masters Student
Posts 626
04-06-16 09:21 AM - Post#205800    

  • internetter Said:


I leave that conclusion to others, those who have attended games or not, those who read boxscores, whatever.





Your posts are repetitive and inaccurate. If you are referring to me among "those who read boxscores, whatever," you are wrong.

I attended several games this year, and I probably watched another 10 or 15 on TV and the internet.

So give your condescension a rest.
rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3057
08-01-18 08:38 AM - Post#259798    

Kyle Smith received a multi-year extension from USF, following back-to-back 20 win seasons. This was a first for the Dons since 1980-1982.

https://bustingbrackets.com/2018/07/30/san-franci s...

https://usfdons.com/news/2018/7/27/mens-b asketball...


rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3057
03-25-19 09:02 AM - Post#282654    

Wyking Jones was fired from Cal this weekend.

At the top of the list for Cal is Jason Kidd, but he has a number of things going against him (no college degree, history of domestic violence, his connection to the Todd Bozeman era and a desire to get back o coaching in the NBA). Also mentioned are Randy Bennett of St. Mary's, Eric Mussellman of Nevada, Travis DeCuire of Montana and Russell Turner of UC Irvine.

Kyle Smith's name has been mentioned by several places, as well. The biggest strike against him, compared to the others on the list, is his lack of an NCAA Tournament bid.

James Jones was also mentioned by a pundit at watchstadium.com.

https://collegesportsmave n.io/cal/basketball/cal-b...

- KYLE SMITH: The head coach at the University of San Francisco, Smith has led the Dons to three straight 20-victory seasons for the first time since a seven-year run that ended 37 years ago, in 1982. Smith, who will turn 50 in June, is 63-40 at USF. He has experience at a high-end academic school, having assembled a six-year record of 101-82 at Columbia in the Ivy League, including 25-10 in 2015-16. He has never directed a team to the NCAA tournament as a head coach, but was part of Randy Bennett’s staff for 10 seasons at Saint Mary’s. Richmond coach Chris Mooney in 2011 called Smith “the smartest man in college basketball. I think he has the best feel and overview of basketball programs and coaching of anyone I've ever met.” -

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2019/03/24/wyking-jon ...

https://watchstadium.com/news/search-firm-pred icti...
cc66
Postdoc
Posts 2204
03-25-19 12:32 PM - Post#282667    

There is also a minor, but not entirely irrelevant factor, namely that Grant Mullins, former Columbia PG transferred to Cal for his graduate year, did well in the program, and probably speaks highly of Smith.
rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3057
03-25-19 03:43 PM - Post#282681    

That certainly may be true.

It looks like Klay Thompson is also impressed with Smith and is lobbying for his alma mater, Washington State, to hire him away from USF.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/warriors/article/Klay -...

http://www.sfexaminer.com/klay-thompson-stumpin g-u...


Columbia 37P6
Postdoc
Posts 2180
03-25-19 04:09 PM - Post#282683    

Our former Athletic Director, Diane Murphy, made a great choice when she hired Kyle Smith as Columbia's Head Basketball Coach. Smith is one of the best game coaches there is. He just has a brilliant basketball mind. I also found him to be very personable and friendly to alums like myself.
mrjames
Professor
Posts 6062
03-25-19 04:17 PM - Post#282684    

Kyle is tremendous and deserves a shot at a higher level. Only problem - at a certain level - it becomes as much about recruiting as it does about coaching. The jury is out on him as a big-time recruiter, but I refuse to bet against him figuring that out as well...
Billy Hoyle
Freshman
Posts 82
03-26-19 05:39 PM - Post#282832    

  • Columbia 37P6 Said:
Our former Athletic Director, Diane Murphy, made a great choice when she hired Kyle Smith as Columbia's Head Basketball Coach. Smith is one of the best game coaches there is. He just has a brilliant basketball mind. I also found him to be very personable and friendly to alums like myself.



Ray Tellier made that call, not Dianne.

I hope Kyle gets the Cal job but it's a major long shot with the way his USF team finished this year, costing them a postseason bid. Turner from Irvine is the most likely as he's already in the UC system and has been to two NCAA tournaments, the first in Irvine history. This might be the job that Bennett finally leaves SMC for as well.

There are only certain jobs Kyle can take, Washington State is not one of them.
I can hear Jimi!

Old Bear
Postdoc
Posts 3998
03-26-19 08:20 PM - Post#282839    

Turner may have shot himself in the foot .
Stuart Suss
PhD Student
Posts 1439
03-26-19 10:04 PM - Post#282843    

Jon Rothstein reports that Kyle Smith will be the next coach of Washington State.
internetter
Postdoc
Posts 3400
03-26-19 11:36 PM - Post#282846    

http://dnews.com/breaking_news/report- wsu-to-hire-...

WSU
west coast fan

Chip Bayers
Professor
Posts 7001
Chip Bayers
03-27-19 02:09 AM - Post#282848    

Well that will certainly test his recruiting skills.

Chet Forte
Postdoc
Posts 2973
03-27-19 10:21 AM - Post#282852    

He can pull out and mark up his 2016 letter to the Columbia community about how he would have been content to stay at Columbia for his entire career but the opportunity to go home to the Bay Area where he had family was too hard to resist. Perhaps he also has family in Walla Walla, or wherever Washington State is located.

palestra38
Professor
Posts 32834
03-27-19 10:26 AM - Post#282853    

You cannot blame any coach for taking a job with a Power Conference and making the big money. The excuse of why he would leave CU for a slight upgrade in his home city is not applicable to taking this job.
PennFan10
Postdoc
Posts 3585
03-27-19 01:33 PM - Post#282874    

WSU is in Pullman, which is as close to Idaho as you can be and still be in Washington.
palestra38
Professor
Posts 32834
03-27-19 01:37 PM - Post#282877    

It's his own Private Idaho. Still a Power 5 conference school
Bill Lewis
Senior
Posts 304
03-27-19 06:21 PM - Post#282907    

That small liberal arts college in Walla Walla, Whitman College, has a 3-2 program with the Columbia School of Engineering and Applied Science.
besnoah
Masters Student
Posts 803
03-27-19 07:39 PM - Post#282920    

Whatever one thinks of Kyle Smith as a coach, it is incredible that he has a Pac-12 job without ever making an NIT, let alone the NCAA tournament.
Columbia 37P6
Postdoc
Posts 2180
03-27-19 08:15 PM - Post#282927    

Billy, I trust your memory is better than mine, but are you sure that Ray rather than Diane was responsible for bringing Kyle Smith to Columbia? Not that I am very surprised considering that Ray and Kyle are both great guys with similar personalities. Good luck to Kyle at Washington State.
Chet Forte
Postdoc
Posts 2973
03-28-19 06:12 AM - Post#282941    

1.4 million a year for 6 years. Should be plenty to live on in Pullman.

Chet Forte
Postdoc
Posts 2973
03-28-19 06:12 AM - Post#282942    

Probably almost as much as Amaker makes.

Chet Forte
Postdoc
Posts 2973
03-28-19 08:45 AM - Post#282947    

Former Columbia assistant Todd Golden is the new HC at USF

Filippo2014
Freshman
Posts 83
03-28-19 10:55 AM - Post#282959    

The media in Pullman, such as it is, is ecstatic about Kyle Smith being hired. Take a look at these links:

https://247sports.com/college/washington-st ate/

https://www.cougcenter.com

Never have I seen the local media in Pullman so focused on one coaching hire, and this is basketball, not even when football's Mike Leach arrived at the end of 2011 did I see coverage like this. They were so freaked out about dismal Kent, and got a taste of real success provided by Leach.

One has to understand that Coug bball fans have suffered for five years under Ken Bone. And five more years under Ernie Kent. Ten years of bottom feeding basketball. Meanwhile the 2018 Coug football squad went 11-2, and probably should have been 12-1.

When Tony Bennett left Wazzu 2009 for Virginia, the bottom dropped out of the basketball world in Pullman. Oddly enough, though, with all Bennett's success at UVA, the most prominent NBA successes Tony produced have been Klay Thompson, and Aaron Baynes, both Wazzu guys. (Thompson did not graduate; Baynes did.) None of Bennett's UVA NBA wannabes have quite matched the success of Thompson and Baynes.

So, move to greener pastures if you will.

WSU is broke, the Pac-12 has a terrible, financially wasteful administrator in Larry Scott, and WSU basketball facilities are like a quarter century behind in upgrades when compared to other Pac-12 schools. Yet, their donor base is pathetic, even though most WSU grads live and work in the monied Seattle area, and on average earn more than their brethren in other Pac-12 communities. WSU even has to have a special Board of Regents meeting to fork up the money to pay Smith his $1.4 million. On top of that, the buy-out for Ernie Kent tops $4 million.

So, good luck, Kyle. it was a great football opportunity for Leach, but for now, the basketball cupboard is bare.
Billy Hoyle
Freshman
Posts 82
04-03-19 12:49 PM - Post#283220    

  • Columbia 37P6 Said:
Billy, I trust your memory is better than mine, but are you sure that Ray rather than Diane was responsible for bringing Kyle Smith to Columbia? Not that I am very surprised considering that Ray and Kyle are both great guys with similar personalities. Good luck to Kyle at Washington State.



Ray ran the search. Dianne preferred Joe Pasternek (now at USCB). Ray had the most interest in Men's Basketball, Dianne was about football and women's basketball. Dianne even vetoed a CIT invite in Kyle's first year.

Yes, both are great guys and it's awesome to see Kyle's ascent. WSU obviously recognized his coaching talent and ability to recruit the type of players who will go to Pullman and be successful despite a record of going to the top postseason tournaments.
I can hear Jimi!

SRP
Postdoc
Posts 4911
04-03-19 05:02 PM - Post#283243    

Malcolm Brogden was NBA ROY and has been a key guy in the rotation, so Bennett has had at least one successful pro from UVA. But it is clear that he has developed a way of recruiting players he can get against the ACC superpowers who will buy into his system and culture.
rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3057
04-04-19 08:49 AM - Post#283256    

The Spokesman Review has some highlights of Smith's introductory press conference.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/apr/01/n inet...

- 9. Derrick Phelps was on Smith’s staff for two years at Columbia and all three years while the coach was at USF. It appears he’s agreed to help with Smith’s rebuild in Pullman, too. Because of formalities, Smith couldn’t announce Phelps, officially, but he did hint to it, saying one of his two assistants had “won a national championship – that’s the highest mountain you can achieve.”

Phelps was the starting point guard on North Carolina’s 1993 national-championship winning team. -

- 14. Bennett also stole one of Smith’s recruits while Smith was still coaching in the Ivy League, at Columbia. That player, Ty Jerome, is the point guard who’ll be starting for the Cavaliers when they take on Auburn this Saturday in Minneapolis.

“Let that be known,” Smith said. “Ty Jerome was committed to us as a ninth grader, I was livid. He was in our gym in Columbia every day.” -
rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3057
09-23-19 08:34 AM - Post#287796    

Here is an interview with former Columbia student, student manager and DBO John Andrzejek on how he will be using analytics for Coach Smith and Washington State.

https://247sports.com/college/washington-st ate/Art...
rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3057
05-13-20 09:38 PM - Post#307327    

Andrzejek was named #39 on ESPN's Top 40 under 40 coaching list. At 27, he is the youngest coach of this group.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/story...

- 39. John Andrzejek, Washington State assistant (27)
The youngest coach on this list, Andrzejek has been a Division I assistant coach for just two seasons, one at Dartmouth and one at Washington State. He's considered proficient in analytics and has experience recruiting high-academic players at Dartmouth and Johns Hopkins. -- Jeff Borzello -
rbg
Postdoc
Posts 3057
11-18-20 09:02 PM - Post#317014    

It was announced tonight that Coach Smith tested positive.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/story...

- Smith tested positive earlier this week as part of the Cougars' regular antigen testing, which was then confirmed by a PCR test.

"I was informed last night that I had tested positive for COVID-19 after experiencing some minor symptoms," Smith said. "I will continue to follow the advice of our medical staff and follow their guidance to get back to the team as soon as possible. I will continue to stay connected remotely and know our staff and players will work diligently leading into our first game next week. Go Cougs!"

Smith, 51, will enter a self-isolation period. Assistant coach Jim Shaw will serve as acting head coach while Smith is sidelined. -



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