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BisonRoadWarrior
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10-24-19 08:29 PM - Post#289016    

The Atlantic 10 preseason poll came out today, with Fordham picked to finish last. That prompted me to look up their cumulative record in the A10 since leaving the Patriot League.

The Rams have gone 100 - 294 (.254). One wonders if there's a Fordham board where posters lament having accepted an invite to a more prominent league. Sort of a Bizarro-world version of Crossports.
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10-24-19 09:07 PM - Post#289019    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
The Atlantic 10 preseason poll came out today, with Fordham picked to finish last. That prompted me to look up their cumulative record in the A10 since leaving the Patriot League.

The Rams have gone 100 - 294 (.254). One wonders if there's a Fordham board where posters lament having accepted an invite to a more prominent league. Sort of a Bizarro-world version of Crossports.





Yes, there is a fairly active Fordham board where most still think they can make it in the A-10 if they find the right coach and improve facilities. Fordham's fate could have been that of HC had they left the PL. Fordham is 36-150 (.193) in A10 games since 2009 - a mark that makes HC's poor PL years look good by comparison.



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10-25-19 09:57 AM - Post#289058    

Their facilities concerns are legitimate. I follow Jacksonville University in the A Sun and the number of recruits they lose to inadequate facilities is measurable in each recruiting class.
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10-25-19 10:58 AM - Post#289066    


ESPN promotes LaPhonso Ellis to 'College GameDay'



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10-25-19 11:29 AM - Post#289073    

  • Bison137 Said:
Wow, I'm very happy for him.

This is a solid pick by ESPN: He has a great personality to join that crew and add to the fun. On the downside, this will trim his Bucknell attendance.
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10-29-19 04:47 PM - Post#289243    

NCAA plans to allow college athletes to get paid for the use of their names, images

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/29/774439078/ ncaa-star...
Bison137
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10-29-19 04:51 PM - Post#289244    

One problem with this is that the major programs with the big boosters will have an in enormous advantage. Their fans will offer massive amounts of money for images and products endorsed by their players. You may see Kentucky basketball players or Alabama football players making many hundreds of thousands If dollars a year as time goes by.



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10-29-19 05:03 PM - Post#289247    

If this will allow compensated appearances in advertising, it seemingly opens a huge back door for business-owning boosters to pay athletes directly.
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10-29-19 07:46 PM - Post#289253    

Also will add another reason for players to go with certain schools, not that Duke or NC or Kentucky need more draw for players.
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11-04-19 02:51 PM - Post#289668    

We are receiving votes in the first mid-major poll:

https://www.collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-...

4. Vermont
11. Colgate

Hofstra, Rider received votes
bison63
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11-04-19 08:44 PM - Post#289700    

PL representative for this season is Brett Reed (oops, Dr Brett Reed).
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11-06-19 10:55 PM - Post#290176    

Mount St. Mary's actually led Georgetown tonight by 46-27 early in the second half. Held on for a while before Georgetown unfortunately went on a 29-10 run and then ended the game on a 10-1 run. The Mount, whose second year coach is Dan Englestad, former assistant of Milan Brown, looks like he might be moving the program back towards the NEC top echelon.

A question for Doctor62. On the HC board, it was said of MSM students, that only "950 or so are traditional full time undergrads." Is that number accurate?



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11-07-19 09:39 AM - Post#290190    

In a shocker, game 3 opponent Hofstra, preseason CAA favorite, lost at home 79-71 to Pomeroy sub 300 ranked San Jose State.
DoCtoR62
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11-07-19 10:17 AM - Post#290192    

  • Bison137 Said:
Mount St. Mary's actually led Georgetown tonight by 46-27 early in the second half. Held on for a while before Georgetown unfortunately went on a 29-10 run and then ended the game on a 10-1 run. The Mount, whose second year coach is Dan Englestad, former assistant of Milan Brown, looks like he might be moving the program back towards the NEC top echelon.

A question for Doctor62. On the HC board, it was said of MSM students, that only "950 or so are traditional full time undergrads." Is that number accurate?



Not close. MSM currently has over 1700 full-time undergrads w/ a goal of surpassing 1800 next fall. Which know-it-all threw out that fact ... it's been years since I've been on that board (and my life is better for it).

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11-07-19 10:24 AM - Post#290194    

  • DoCtoR62 Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
Mount St. Mary's actually led Georgetown tonight by 46-27 early in the second half. Held on for a while before Georgetown unfortunately went on a 29-10 run and then ended the game on a 10-1 run. The Mount, whose second year coach is Dan Englestad, former assistant of Milan Brown, looks like he might be moving the program back towards the NEC top echelon.

A question for Doctor62. On the HC board, it was said of MSM students, that only "950 or so are traditional full time undergrads." Is that number accurate?



Not close. MSM currently has over 1700 full-time undergrads w/ a goal of surpassing 1800 next fall. Which know-it-all threw out that fact ... it's been years since I've been on that board (and my life is better for it).





Just to clarify, he specifically excluded students doing their courses on-line as opposed to being on-campus. Does that make a difference?



res
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11-07-19 10:49 AM - Post#290197    

He also excluded seminary students. From what I read online, MSM has roughly 25 full-time online students. It's unclear whether the MSM totals include seminarians or not, but there are only 150 of then anyhow. I think our HC poster is all wet on this one.

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11-07-19 11:38 AM - Post#290200    

MSM has 1732 currently enrolled traditional undergraduate students, 1706 full-time and none of whom are in online programs. For the first time in its history, the Mount has had 3 freshman classes in a row > 500 and hopes to make it four in a row next year to reach the goal of 1800 F/T UGs.

The University also has adult programs in Frederick that include 161 undergraduate students (43 full-time) and 312 graduate students (68 full-time) across six disciplines, none of which are fully online. And, then there is the seminary, the second largest in the country, with 152 men. So, total head count > 2,350.

All that said, if we had one more healthy guard last night, we could have perhaps staved off Georgetown in the second half. We have two very good wing scorers who ran out of gas in the last 5 minutes. So, optimum UG enrollment is 1733.

I think every HC poster is all wet.
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11-07-19 12:33 PM - Post#290203    

  • bison63 Said:
In a shocker, game 3 opponent Hofstra, preseason CAA favorite, lost at home 79-71 to Pomeroy sub 300 ranked San Jose State.




San Jose State's records the last two years were 4-26, followed by 4-27. Also a ombined league record of 2-34! What is really amazing about this win is that they pulled it off with no new players from last year - and with last year's top player, a 6-10 center, having transferred out.

San Jose State's coach, btw, is Jean Prioleau, who some Bison fans will remember was an All-PL player during Fordham's championship runs in 1991 and 1992. With this being his third year as coach, his seat must be getting pretty warm.



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11-14-19 02:35 PM - Post#290994    

Nice win last night for St Joe's and assistant coach John Griffin. As 15-point underdogs, they beat UConn in Connecticut.

Meanwhile, former Paulsen assistant Dane Fischer's turnaround project at William & Mary is off to a nice start. The Tribe is 3-0, with all three wins on the road (High Point, American, Wofford).
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11-14-19 05:20 PM - Post#291013    

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Nice win last night for St Joe's and assistant coach John Griffin. As 15-point underdogs, they beat UConn in Connecticut.

Meanwhile, former Paulsen assistant Dane Fischer's turnaround project at William & Mary is off to a nice start. The Tribe is 3-0, with all three wins on the road (High Point, American, Wofford).



On the other hand, Jay Wright's #10 ranked team got spanked by 15 points at #16 Ohio State.
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11-16-19 09:30 PM - Post#291239    

Vermont won at St. John's today on a late FG by Anthony Lamb. Lamb ended with 23 points, 15 rebounds, and 5 assists.

Also VCU beat Lehigh 79-53. Was fairly close at the half but then VCU quickly ran away with it.



Bucknellbisonfan21
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11-16-19 10:02 PM - Post#291243    

  • Bison137 Said:
VCU


Virginia Tech*
Old Bison
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11-16-19 10:39 PM - Post#291246    

Up in VT...flew from JFK to Burlington and almost took a charge on Lamb, He’s not a dot over 6’5.5”. They were heading out on my return flight yesterday at 2. Think the crew on NYIT that 137 referred did UVM @ Carnesecca Gym. Don’t know the names so no interest in accessing the box score
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11-16-19 10:49 PM - Post#291247    

  • Old Bison Said:
Up in VT...flew from JFK to Burlington and almost took a charge on Lamb, He’s not a dot over 6’5.5”. They were heading out on my return flight yesterday at 2. Think the crew on NYIT that 137 referred did UVM @ Carnesecca Gym. Don’t know the names so no interest in accessing the box score




Your surmise is correct. It was exactly the same crew - a very good one - as the one who did Hofstra-NYIT.



res
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11-19-19 10:48 AM - Post#291441    

Dane Fischer has W&M playing surprisingly well early in the season. The Tribe won its first four games and nearly beat Oklahoma in Norman last night. OU isn't supposed to any great shakes this year, but W&M was picked to finish towards the bottom of the CAA. Nate Knight is one hell of a player.

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11-19-19 11:16 AM - Post#291442    

Yes, they are playing really well. They had three of their top four players transfer out, and also had their top recruit decommit, after Tony Shaver was fired. Dane thus far looks to be doing a great job.



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11-19-19 01:17 PM - Post#291462    

Good to see him succeeding

res
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11-19-19 01:45 PM - Post#291464    

137, who's the 3rd? Pierce and Milon left but Loewe decided to stay. Am I missing someone?

res
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11-19-19 02:48 PM - Post#291471    

Never mind, just noticed Chase Audige transferred to Northwestern. Didn't realize that.

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11-19-19 07:12 PM - Post#291503    

LaPhonso Ellis gave a Bucknell shoutout last night:
https://twitter.com/bisonrdwarrior/status /11966000...
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11-19-19 09:13 PM - Post#291588    

Going over to watch UVM vs. UVA. Vermont only down 1 early in the 2nd half.
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11-22-19 04:18 AM - Post#291972    

Hofstra beat UCLA 88-78 on the road tonight. Their top two scored 56 combined points.



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11-22-19 09:25 AM - Post#291976    

On a separate note, Albany lost to Lehigh by 4 and Manhattan by 6. They did however manage to beat Canisius by 26! Tough to play that game. To safeguard all poster’s sanity I’ll put myself back on another self imposed 5 day “black-out period” re: Canisius.
res
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11-22-19 09:53 AM - Post#291983    

  • Old Bison Said:
On a separate note, Albany lost to Lehigh by 4 and Manhattan by 6. They did however manage to beat Canisius by 26! Tough to play that game.



If by "that game" you mean the "transitive law game", I don't think that was 137's intent, though we've all seen that game played in both jest and, unfortunately, in dead earnest.

My favorite one was from decades ago that argued (in jest) that Gannon was the true national champion. It started with the fact that Gannon had beaten Niagara, went through five or six intermediate steps and ended with the fact that Notre Dame had beaten UCLA, which of course had won the NCAA tournament (again).

It used to require more effort to come up with these sorts of things pre-internet.

Old Bison
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11-22-19 10:21 AM - Post#291989    

Res, you’re correct and I didn’t interpret 137’s informational post in that vein. Yes, if Hofstra beat UCLA and we beat Hofstra then happy days...looks a better W for the Bison. Just pointing out if we go the other way we could potentially lose to a bad D3. More importantly, Canisius bothers me in countless ways.

I love 137...he saves me so much time. I’m just dying to know what his real job is! I’m surmising he’s retired and if you tell me otherwise can you broker a loan. What’s a little change extended on behalf of a fellow Bison?
Old Bison
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11-22-19 11:31 AM - Post#291996    

Res, re "he saves me so much time" I should have added I wouldn't even know where to look. He's Mike Lupica on steroids!

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11-22-19 12:20 PM - Post#292000    

if anyone ever tries to suggest that Kentucky last year was better than the bison, here's all you have to show them:

on 02/09/19 Bucknell beat Bo ston Univ 82-76
on 11/06/18 Boston Univ beat Northeastern 77 -74
on 11/15/18 Northeastern bea t Alabama 68-52
on 01/05/19 Alabama beat Ken tucky 77-75

Bucknell > Boston Univ > Northeastern > Alabama > Kentucky

Therefore, Bucknell is better than Kentucky in 4 rounds by a combined score of 304-277.

https://myteamisbettertha nyourteam.com/path;winner...



Old Bison
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11-22-19 01:26 PM - Post#292008    

Bucknell might just beat KU this year based on Utah State and Evansville...I just wouldn’t bet the house on it.
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11-22-19 04:49 PM - Post#292031    

  • Old Bison Said:
I love 137...he saves me so much time. I’m just dying to know what his real job is! I’m surmising he’s retired and if you tell me otherwise can you broker a loan. What’s a little change extended on behalf of a fellow Bison?




What is 137's real job, and who is 137? The international man (or woman) of mystery!
New season, new team, new dream . . .

Bucknellbisonfan21
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12-01-19 11:49 AM - Post#293083    

Looks like Greg Schiano is going back to Rutgers.
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12-01-19 10:15 PM - Post#293230    

Yale beat Vermont today by double digits. Canisius did the same to Mercer.

And Fairfield beat Texas A&M on a neutral court.



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12-02-19 10:45 AM - Post#293259    

Old news - PSU beat Syracuse 84-65 on Friday.
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12-05-19 02:16 PM - Post#293829    

  • jkrun80 Said:
Old news - PSU beat Syracuse 84-65 on Friday.




Newer news. PSU beat Wake Forest 74-52 last night. PSU now ranked #23 in the nation by Pomeroy. They will have a huge test Saturday when they take on undefeated Ohio State on the road. OSU incredibly has already beaten both Villanova and UNC by 25 points each.

Also Fairfield the other day beat Texas A&M by five points. And Yale beat Vermont by 13 points and Albany by 9 points during the past week. Yale now up to #87 in the Pomeroy ratings.



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12-10-19 10:07 PM - Post#294392    

PSU takes down #4 Maryland 76-68. PSU will move into the Pomeroy top 20.

BRW, was this an allowable court storming?



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12-10-19 10:24 PM - Post#294396    

I can't speak for BRW, but when an unranked basketball team with virtually no basketball history defeats the #4 team in the country, why not? It's college. Have some fun.
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12-10-19 10:38 PM - Post#294401    

  • Bison89 Said:
I can't speak for BRW, but when an unranked basketball team with virtually no basketball history defeats the #4 team in the country, why not? It's college. Have some fun.




I asked the question of BRW since he may be the go-to guy on the subject when Seth Davis is not available. I am fine with it in this case.

Penn State probably should be in the top 25. They clearly have a better resume than teams like Colorado.



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12-10-19 10:38 PM - Post#294402    

  • Bison137 Said:
PSU takes down #4 Maryland 76-68. PSU will move into the Pomeroy top 20.

BRW, was this an allowable court storming?

On the pro-rush side, it's an unranked team taking down #4.

On the other side of the ledger, Vegas had Penn State as a 2-point favorite. And I'm hesitant to endorse rushing the court against a league opponent in other than the championship game.

All in all, I can't vigorously condemn it, but I wasn't wild about it.
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12-10-19 10:41 PM - Post#294405    

At least it's a bit more acceptable than if PSU students stormed the field after a football win over Maryland!



res
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12-11-19 08:26 AM - Post#294427    

Good one.

Old Bison
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12-11-19 05:03 PM - Post#294501    

I'm for storming the court anytime the Terps are on the losing end!
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12-20-19 04:46 PM - Post#295022    

Jay Wright hosted a special visitor at Villanova:
https://twitter.com/VUCoachJWright/status /12080923...
bison75
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12-21-19 04:38 PM - Post#295087    

Great win for Nova today. Beating Kansas by one point is, well, special.
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12-21-19 04:42 PM - Post#295088    

  • bison75 Said:
Great win for Nova today. Beating Kansas by one point is, well, special.



It was a very exciting game. Always fun to see Bill Self lose. Even better when it is Bucknell or Nova! The last 2 minutes was a nail-biter.
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res
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01-10-20 09:45 AM - Post#296329    

Dane Fischer still going strong at Bill & Mary. They beat a not so good UNCW last night to go 4-0 in the CAA and 12-5 overall. They also routed Hofstra in Hempstead by 27. Very surprising given all of the turnover. Nathan Knight's the real deal, though.

Fairly big conference game with 5-0 CoC on Saturday afternoon in Williamsburg.

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01-19-20 07:44 PM - Post#297104    

Brawl at the end of the St. Francis vs Sacred Heart game at Loretto last night:

https://twitter.com/JaredKotler/status/12 187131868...



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01-24-20 06:45 PM - Post#297338    

Great video. The College GameDay crew is on the Kansas campus talking about the ugly brawl at the end of the Kansas-Kansas State game the other day. LaPhonso Ellis can be seen throughout the video prominently wearing a Bucknell sweatshirt with "Bucknell" in large letters and a big orange Bison. Kansas fans likely are not happy. Maybe some Bison fan can give him a classic t-shirt with a Kansas reference for his next appearance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8 &...


Kansas hosts Tennessee tomorrow btw





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02-17-20 09:13 PM - Post#300472    

Bryson finally got the necessary government approval and is now, finally, an assistant coach for GMU.



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02-17-20 09:31 PM - Post#300475    

  • Bison137 Said:
Bryson finally got the necessary government approval and is now, finally, an assistant coach for GMU.



You have to watch out for those Canadian basketball coaches.
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Bison137
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02-17-20 10:45 PM - Post#300483    

  • Bison89 Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
Bryson finally got the necessary government approval and is now, finally, an assistant coach for GMU.



You have to watch out for those Canadian basketball coaches.




Approval not as easy as one might think. I believe you need to somehow show that there are not enough qualified U.S. workers available for the job you are filling. Not sure how you do that with a basketball coach.



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02-21-20 06:31 PM - Post#301017    

Phil Mushnick today pointed out the geographical makeup of the University of Maine roster:

- Two from Serbia
- One from Ukraine
- One from Quebec
- One from Ontario
- One from Sweden
- One from Denmark
- One from Turkey
- One from Latvia
- One from England
- One from Lebanon
- One from Maine

Amazing. All of that to produce a 7-13 record in a weak league.

Amazingly they have had 15 transfers over the past 3.5 years as well.



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02-28-20 12:17 PM - Post#302026    

Conference tournaments start on Tuesday. Here’s this years schedule if anyone’s interested:

http://bracketmatrix.com/2020Tourneys.pdf
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02-28-20 01:22 PM - Post#302028    

  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Tuesday


Monday**

Atlantic Sun starts Monday
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03-07-20 02:45 PM - Post#303403    

Johns Hopkins, hosting a first-round NCAA tournament doubleheader, barred spectators out of “an abundance of caution” vis a vis coronavirus — and then was upset on their own empty court.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/06/ncaa- bask...

I think the phrase “abundance of caution” will accompany many a questionable decision announcement in the coming weeks.

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03-07-20 09:33 PM - Post#303524    

I neglected to note Hopkins was upset by Penn State - Harrisburg, coached by former Bucknell assistant Don Friday.

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05-02-20 12:18 AM - Post#306898    

Just stumbled upon this video. It's the final part of the 1994 D3 national championship game between Lebanon Valley (enrollment 850) and NYU (total enrollment 49,000). LVC, of course, was coached by a much younger Pat Flannery. LVC tied it at the buzzer on a tip-in that actually came well after the buzzer. Fortunately for them, there was no replay back then. LVC went on to win in OT, led by MVP Mike Rhoades (now the VCU head coach).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN5Cy_pGfT0



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05-04-20 03:30 PM - Post#306986    

Rick Pitino and Louisville are about to get slammed again for violations. I wonder if Iona knew what they were getting themselves into.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2890066-repo rt...
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