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84grad Junior Posts 277 |
11-04-19 05:46 PM - Post#289682
Jeff Goodman: Harvard’s Tommy Amaker told me Seth Towns (knee) will not play in the opener. Towns missed all of last season and his status for this year is up in the air. With a healthy Towns, the Crimson are a legit Top 25’ish team. Harvard still has plenty of talent to win the Ivy w/o him. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32860 |
11-04-19 06:02 PM - Post#289684
This is the craziest thing I have ever seen in terms of information on an injury. |
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mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
11-04-19 07:05 PM - Post#289692
Yeah... was wondering when that was gonna drop. Real shame for Seth. I think “status for the year is up in the air†is a bit more ominous sounding than reality, though. I’d be stunned if he didn’t play this season. |
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H78 PhD Student Posts 1458 
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 11-04-19 07:52 PM - Post#289696
Yeah... was wondering when that was gonna drop. Real shame for Seth. I think “status for the year is up in the air†is a bit more ominous sounding than reality, though. I’d be stunned if he didn’t play this season. Sad to hear this. Young man has such promise.  |
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84grad Junior Posts 277 |
12-18-19 03:06 PM - Post#294825
Posted today (no surprise): Jeff Goodman @GoodmanHoops Harvard’s Tommy Amaker told me that Seth Towns (knee), who missed all of last season, still hasn’t practiced with the team. Doesn’t sound as if he is close to coming back. Gotta feel for Towns — who may wind up missing two full seasons. |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2697 |
12-18-19 03:20 PM - Post#294830
Really disappointing news. Must be incredibly frustrating (devastating?) got Seth. |
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mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
12-18-19 05:08 PM - Post#294840
I think what Goodman closed with is probably what's going to happen, to be honest. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32860 |
12-18-19 05:32 PM - Post#294844
Which would leave Towns with 2 years of eligibility as a grad transfer, correct? |
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HGA Sophomore Posts 106 |
12-19-19 10:15 AM - Post#294881
I think only one year. I believe the rule is that you have 5 years to complete four years of your eligibility -- unless there is a special waiver received from the NCAA. |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3060 |
12-19-19 10:24 AM - Post#294884
I believe you are correct. If he cannot make it back in early or mid January (which he/they probably know by now) would it be better for his transfer prospects to officially shut it down now and enter the transfer portal or can he wait until February (to end his season) like he did last year? |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3060 |
12-19-19 10:55 AM - Post#294887
What about Patrick Steeves? Looking at his page on the Harvard site - 2012-2013: Did not see game action 2013-2014: Did not see game action after suffering injury. 2014-2015: Did not see game action after suffering injury 2015-2016: 26 games played Then, he transfer to GW for 2 seasons 2016-2017 (grad): 27 games played 2017-2018 (grad): 33 games played |
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84grad Junior Posts 277 |
12-19-19 01:10 PM - Post#294915
If Seth doesn't play, the biggest impact may be that Ledlum plays an even bigger role as a freshman. Similar skills to Seth -- can shoot, drive and rebound. Without a natural third scorer (behind Bryce and Noah), the offense is prone to scoring droughts. I think keeping 2 of those 3 on the court at the same time is essential. |
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digamma Masters Student Posts 468 |
12-19-19 02:34 PM - Post#294923
That's a real bummer. Feel especially for Seth. |
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HGA Sophomore Posts 106 |
12-19-19 03:58 PM - Post#294928
He probably received a medical waiver to get an extra year of eligibility -- 6 yrs to complete 4 yrs of eligibility. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3589 |
12-19-19 05:19 PM - Post#294932
I think what Goodman closed with is probably what's going to happen, to be honest. So you went from "...I'll be stunned if he doesn't play this season: To "...may end up missing two full season" in six weeks? What changed? This is surprising. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32860 |
12-19-19 05:24 PM - Post#294934
It's no surprise to us. We saw that injury, and it was a bad one. Why Harvard plays the Belichick game is a mystery, but it even pulls the wool over the eyes of its most ardent supporters. |
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mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
12-19-19 07:56 PM - Post#294955
For me, exams was always the breaking point. If he’s ready to go post exams, he can have a three month close to the season, show he’s recovered and has game (was plenty of time for Bryce to do so last year), and move on to start his pro career. But if he’s still not close post-exams, that means the recovery still isn’t progressing fast enough, and it probably makes sense for him to go the grad transfer route with two full years (and go grab another degree to protect against not going pro). I trust Goodman’s reporting, and while it’s stunning to hear that he’s still not there, it’d be silly to pretend like we’re not past the point of no return. While I understand that the outcome fits the “they were deceiving us all along†narrative that is popular amongst some, that’s not what happened here. Sometimes if you forget to apply the Ivy lens to things, you can make assumptions and miss context that can lead to convenient, but incorrect, narratives. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32860 |
12-19-19 07:58 PM - Post#294956
I think you are projecting Mike. You were the one repeatedly predicting he was soon to return and recovering well. We just noted time and time again that neither Seth nor the program issued any comments nor provided information. That was correct. But I understand your desire that a guy who clearly at one time was the best player in the League come back especially in this summit year for Harvard. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4917 |
12-19-19 09:04 PM - Post#294971
I agree that if progress had been ongoing, we'd have gotten more information, if only from the player himself. But it's mainly too bad for the kid--hope he recovers fully. |
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mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
12-19-19 10:45 PM - Post#294981
Not sure if you’re on Twitter, but the program provided plenty of information via Jon Rothstein and Jeff Goodman. There have been about 10 updates this season alone. |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3589 |
12-20-19 01:02 AM - Post#294992
The guy was in warmups before games late last season. He must have been re-injured? Had Surgery? What injury takes 2 years to heal unless it was reinjured and/or mishandled? Greg Oden comes to mind. He had a spiral fracture that effectively ended his career and he never came back from. |
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digamma Masters Student Posts 468 |
12-23-19 11:47 AM - Post#295180
https://gocrimson.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/r eleases... Official now. Such a bummer for Seth. |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2142 |
12-23-19 01:00 PM - Post#295196
Looks as if he was never able to get the knee right after the initial injury, surgery and rehab. That's a terrible shame. Towns has been one hell of a player for you guys. |
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SRP Postdoc Posts 4917 |
12-23-19 08:03 PM - Post#295228
One of the smoothest great Ivy players I've seen. Hoping he eventually gets healed up enough to continue his basketball career. But it's definitely a bummer when these kinds of injuries occur. |
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QHoops Senior Posts 369 |
12-23-19 08:30 PM - Post#295229
For us older guys, anyone see the resemblance to Laurence Moten with a better jump shot? A real shame he will not play again. |
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Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3619 
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12-24-19 02:38 AM - Post#295235
Ugh... really sorry to hear this. Just terrible for a kid to put so much in and not be able to get back (and a shame we won’t get to see the Harvard team that could have been). Really a fantastic player and hope he can recover and get back to the court on a high major team and get to the tournament. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001 
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01-02-20 03:27 PM - Post#295763
ESPN’s Jeff Borzello tweets that Towns has officially entered the transfer portal: @jeffborzello |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2142 |
01-02-20 03:37 PM - Post#295764
Let's hope he can get healthy enough to play next season. Missing two entire years has got to be beyond frustrating. |
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mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
01-02-20 04:03 PM - Post#295765
Yeah... it's a shame that he has to go this route. If he had recovered and had gotten a full season, I don't think he would have gone the grad transfer route and instead would have just started his pro career. But now, it's worth the insurance of a two-year masters degree in case this injury hampers his long-term pro potential. |
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mobrien Masters Student Posts 402 |
02-02-20 12:41 AM - Post#298335
A little more detail about what happened with Towns. His initial MRI only showed a bone bruise, when he didn't feel better he had another MRI that showed a cartilage tear, and so he had surgery. The doctors kept telling him he was getting better, even though he felt the same pain, until he finally went to the Brooklyn Nets team doctor back in December who told him his cartilage hadn't completely healed, and he needed another surgery. He's apparently pain-free now. Here's the full John Feinstein piece on him: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/har... |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2697 |
02-02-20 12:42 PM - Post#298388
Thanks for sharing this. Really disappointing for Seth and basketball fans everywhere. If truly healthy Seth is going to really help some program as a mature player and person with 2 years of eligibility left. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32860 |
02-02-20 12:46 PM - Post#298390
Wow---that sounds like a missed cartilage tear in the knee. Cartilage does not heal itself, it has to be sutured to prevent fragments from coming loose and causing pain and inflamation. What requires rehab are the surrounding muscles after surgery (I'm a vet with 2 scopes both from playing basketball). It sounds like they missed a tear on the MRI and then simply didn't fix it. On the good side, if his only injury was cartilage and it now is fixed, he should have a trouble free return to action when he is ready. Quite unlike a torn patella and kneecap injury such as Begley had. |
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1LotteryPick1969 Postdoc Posts 2277 
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02-02-20 01:10 PM - Post#298399
Hmmm. Over-reliance on imaging? My MRI was read as torn cartilage, but a skilled orthopedist merely examined me and said it was NOT, and would heal, which it did (was in fact a bone bruise). |
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mobrien Masters Student Posts 402 |
02-02-20 01:56 PM - Post#298407
It's hard to read this and not think about the what-ifs. In any case, Seth is a great kid, and we were lucky to have him on the court for two years. Just a shame it wasn't four. My favorite detail is that he's looking for schools with good creative writing programs — Iowa has to be in the lead then — for his grad transfer. |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2697 |
02-02-20 02:06 PM - Post#298409
I'm betting on Ohio State. Seth has very strong local ties and OSU recruited him hard. Seth may make a name for himself on the court, but he's one of those rare athletes who has the potential to be known for much more. Sounds like he's still urinated at camera for following him under the stands as he tried to figure out what happened at the Palestra. Don't blame him. |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3060 |
03-09-20 01:14 PM - Post#303763
Towns is reportedly considering Kansas, Virginia, Syracuse, Ohio State, Michigan and Maryland. https://247sports.com/Article/Seth-Towns-Ha rvard-t... |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2697 |
03-09-20 02:05 PM - Post#303789
I heard Maryland is very interested in Bryce. Don't see Seth and Bryce ending up at the same school though. |
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84grad Junior Posts 277 |
03-09-20 03:07 PM - Post#303809
Seton Hall makes a lot of sense for Bryce. Geography and currently solid program. Assume Ohio State has the inside track on Seth. |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2697 |
03-21-20 11:48 AM - Post#304952
Seth Towns to announce tonight at 11pm on ESPN Sportscenter. Top sports story of the day? Whose announcement will grab more viewers: Seth or Bryce? What times we are living in! |
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mobrien Masters Student Posts 402 |
03-21-20 02:15 PM - Post#304956
If Seth is doing it live on Sportscenter, I have to imagine that means it's more likely to be Duke. ESPN loves hyping up Dookies... |
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internetter Postdoc Posts 3400 |
03-21-20 04:00 PM - Post#304959
May announce his new school decision tonight on an ESPN show some time after 8, presumably ET.
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internetter Postdoc Posts 3400 |
03-21-20 04:42 PM - Post#304963
Correction: 11 PM ET, likely.Sports Center.
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3060 |
10-05-20 10:09 AM - Post#314550
Looks like Seth Towns is still recovering and won't be ready for the start of Ohio State's season. https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-basketba... - Towns, a redshirt junior graduate transfer from Harvard, has been recovering from a knee injury sustained in the 2018 Ivy League championship game. He most recently had follow-up surgery in January. Though Holtmann said Towns has made "good progress," he doesn't believe he will be ready to play games when the Buckeyes start the season in late November. "I think right now, while he's made progress, I think in terms of being ready to play actual games in late November, I certainly think that is in question, whether he'll be ready for that," Holtmann said. "At this point, I'm not sure he will be ready, and I think he probably feels the same way. He's going to need more time than that. But we'll know more, obviously, in the coming weeks." Towns had previously said there was "no question" that his knee would be healthy by the start of Ohio State's 2020-21 hoops season. - |
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W. PhD Student Posts 1173 |
10-05-20 12:37 PM - Post#314565
Oh man. That was two and a half YEARS ago, and his knee still isn't right? Ugh. Knee injuries stink. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32860 |
10-06-20 07:32 AM - Post#314579
It happened right in front of me on the baseline, and it was obvious that the knee just gave way backward. No information on the injury was ever shared, so it's not been possible to determine whether it required surgery(ies) or the severity of the injury. Obviously, it was a very severe injury requiring multiple surgeries (suggesting it may have been a kneecap dislocation). Really too bad because he was the best player in the League. |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2697 |
10-06-20 04:05 PM - Post#314625
Once Seth settled on having another surgery in January there was an extensive article describing what had been occurring. I can't locate that article at the moment and think it might have been written by Jon Rothstein. Rather than trying to recreate it, the following can be found on an Ohio State site: "Initially, he didn’t have an operation to heal his knee. But two months later once what was thought to be a bone bruise was revealed to be a cartilage injury, he had surgery. It didn’t heal as expected, though, so Towns had another surgery earlier this year for what he says is a cartilage defect." My understanding/recollectio n was that the situation was actually more complicated, including possible misdiagnosis. Regardless, on a few occasions the coaches and Seth were led by the doctors to believe that he had completed successful surgery, only to discover that the knee pain was still persisting. That is why everyone expected Seth's return - including Seth. |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2697 |
10-06-20 04:19 PM - Post#314626
Don't think this was the article, but: Harvard’s Seth Towns to miss entire 2019-20 season December 23, 2019 by Rob Browne One of the Ivy League’s biggest mysteries of the last two years has finally (mostly) been solved. Harvard has announced that Seth Towns, the 2018 Ivy League Player of the Year, will undergo surgery on his left knee and miss the entire 2019-20 campaign. Towns finished the 2017-18 regular season with 15.8 points per game, including 18.6 per Ivy contest. The versatile 6′ 7″ forward hit 49.3% of his three-point attempts, while averaging 5.4 rebounds and 1.8 assists per night. In addition to earning the league’s top award, Towns was named a Lou Henson All-America and an AP Honorable Mention All-American. Against Cornell in the Ivy Tournament semifinal, Towns led the way in top-seeded Harvard’s 74-55 victory with a double-double of 24 points and 12 rebounds. In Sunday’s final against No. 2 seed Penn, Towns had amassed 13 points and six rebounds with 8:20 left in the second half. He drove to the layup, hoping to cut into the Quakers’ 53-45 lead, but he hit the ground hard and was in visible pain as he was helped off the court minutes later. Harvard would rally around its former leader, taking the lead on a 13-2 run, but ultimately lose the title and the league’s automatic NCAA bid, 68-65. The Crimson never disclosed the extent of Towns’s injury and treatment, but hopes were high that he would return for the 2018-19 season. In July 2018, Harvard Athletics told IHO that Towns was expected to be ready for the start of the season. Unfortunately, Towns was not dressed for the team’s preseason Crimson Madness event and would eventually miss the rest of the season. While there was speculation from Ivy fans throughout the campaign, it wasn’t until the eve of the league’s regular season weekend that Towns officially declared his season done. As the 2019-20 season approached, hopes were again high that Towns would return to the court and a three-point championship in this year’s edition of Crimson Madness made his return seem likely. However, Towns’s return was not to be. Jeff Goodman reported on Nov. 4 that Amaker had told him that Towns would not play in the opener and his status for the season was up in the air. After Towns missed the team’s first 10 games, Goodman on Dec. 18 tweeted more ominous news that Towns still hadn’t practiced with the team. During Saturday’s game at George Washington, an ESPN+ announcer reported that Towns had been out due to microfracture surgery, but Towns is not getting microfracture surgery, per a source with knowledge of the injury. On Monday, Harvard confirmed that Towns would be undergoing season-ending surgery. “While I am disappointed and saddened for Seth and our program that he won’t be competing for us this year, I am grateful and fortunate to have been able to coach and teach him during his time here,†Amaker told Harvard Athletics. “Seth will always be the standard for Harvard basketball players: a scholar and a baller.†With Towns set to graduate this May, the Columbus, Ohio, native’s Ivy career is complete, even though he still retains two years of eligibility. Everyone here at IHO eagerly looks forward to Towns recovering and returning to be the brilliant player he was in his first two seasons at Harvard. This post has been updated to note that Towns is not getting microfracture surgery and that he will have surgery on his left knee. |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3060 |
11-25-20 09:05 PM - Post#317317
11/12/20 https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-basketba... - Chris Holtmann, Ohio State’s fourth-year head coach, didn’t sound overly optimistic when discussing Seth Towns and Musa Jallow’s availability for the start of the 2020-21 season a month ago, and he took a similar stance this week. “Overall, our health remains relatively the same place it was,†he said on Wednesday afternoon. “I don't have a specific timeline on Seth and Musa. At this point, I could speculate that Musa would be closer to returning than Seth. I would say (Seth is) at least a month away from getting into live action, in terms of practice stuff. So far, per Holtmann, injuries to Towns and Jallow have kept them out of “live action†while they do “some limited contact drill work.†Towns, a graduate transfer from Harvard with two years of eligibility remaining, had his latest surgery at the beginning of this year to deal with a knee injury initially suffered in the 2018 Ivy League championship game. Since then, multiple surgeries have forced him to miss the entirety of two college basketball seasons, and he won’t be back for the beginning of the upcoming season. Ohio State plans to be cautious with him due to his extended rehabilitation process. - 11/25/20 https://www.si.com/college/ohiostate/bas ketball/oh... - "Seth Towns was involved in a minor car accident on the way to the Ohio State game against Illinois State today. All parties involved are safe. He arrived late to the game and is on the bench. We will have no further comment." - |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2697 |
11-25-20 11:21 PM - Post#317321
So disappointed for Seth |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3060 |
12-03-20 09:51 AM - Post#317555
https://www.buckeyextra.com/story/mens-basketball /... - It took two words to work up one rabid fanbase. Monday morning, Ohio State graduate transfer Seth Towns posted a pair of photos to his personal Twitter page with a caption simply reading “very soonâ€. It was enough to send the rumor mill into overdrive concerning the status of the Harvard graduate and Columbus Northland product who has missed the last two seasons with knee issues and is working toward playing for this season’s Ohio State team. Since undergoing surgery last January, Towns has been progressing with an eye on playing during this calendar year. Tuesday afternoon, one day before the No. 23 Buckeyes were set to host Morehead State at the Covelli Center, coach Chris Holtmann didn’t offer a definitive timeline for when Towns will be in uniform because he said the fifth-year player hasn’t done enough live action work in practice to provide one. - - He came to the Buckeyes with two years of eligibility, and actually could have three after the NCAA awarded an extra year to all winter sport athletes playing their seasons in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic. Since joining the program, Towns has made steady progress but has only recently started taking part in some full-action practice work. The team's official game notes state that Towns is "not expected to return to action until 2021." “He’ll have to work his way into shape and sharpening his skills and his ability to move and defend,†Holtmann said. “Offensively, even though he’ll have to shake some rust off there, he’s a really gifted offensive player. Defensively is where he’s going to have to really continue to grow and get more confident in his ability to move and his knee and his conditioning.†- - “I do think everybody has to understand he’s not the same player or athlete right now he was his sophomore year at Harvard,†Holtmann said. “That’s too much to expect given a young man that’s come off of two years. He’s really worked hard to get back to this point. I think he feels a great amount of satisfaction in getting back in the conversation of playing again, but to expect that kind of production right now is unrealistic.†Towns will get back to the form he showed as a sophomore eventually, Holtmann said. He’s just not sure when. “We haven’t honestly seen him enough in live action to where I could even begin to speculate on when that will happen,†the coach said. “It’s hard to give a timeline on when he could get back to that because we haven’t been able to see enough. Is it the end of this year? Next year? I don’t know, but no question in my mind he can get back to that.†- |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3060 |
12-07-20 06:20 PM - Post#317670
From this afternoon https://www.buckeyextra.com/story/mens-basketball /... - *The latest on forward Seth Towns is that he is a “game-to-game, week-to-week†decision, according to Holtmann. “It’s really going to depend on our conversations with him as to how his knee is feeling and where he’s at physically,†he said. “I couldn’t give a definitive one way or another. He’s going through what regular practice feels like for his body and his knee. He’s had some good days, some really good days, and he’s had some days where it’s been difficult for him. That’s part of the recovery process, the whole get back to health process. “I’ve been really proud of his ability to move forward with this thing. I think he sees the light at the end of the tunnel in terms of getting back on the floor. It doesn’t mean it’s going to be the Seth of his sophomore year. He’s not there yet. That will definitely take a while.†Holtmann said Towns is only about a week and a half into actual live practices. - |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3060 |
12-09-20 09:47 AM - Post#317781
Ohio State basketball player Seth Towns takes knee to protest friend's killing in police shooting https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/story... - To protest his childhood friend's killing by police in Columbus this week, Ohio State forward Seth Towns kneeled before his basketball team's 90-85 victory over Notre Dame on Tuesday night in the ACC/Big Ten Challenge. According to reporting by CNN, federal officials are now investigating the death of 23-year-old Casey Goodson -- Towns' friend -- who was shot and killed Friday by Jason Meade, a local sheriff's deputy, as Goodson entered his home. Meade reportedly said he saw a man with a gun prior to the shooting. Goodson's family's attorney told CNN that Goodson had a concealed carry permit and was legally armed at the time of the shooting, but that Goodson had only a Subway sandwich in his hands when he was killed. On the day Goodson was killed, Towns tweeted that he had grown up with Goodson in Columbus. Towns tweeted "Justice for Casey Goodson" with a picture of him kneeling before Tuesday's game. - |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3060 |
12-09-20 10:24 PM - Post#317823
Here's an update on the shooting of Seth Towns' friend Casey Goodson. Casey Goodson Update: Death At Deputy's Hand Is Ruled A Homicide https://www.npr.org/2020/12/09/944624158/ casey-goo... - The preliminary findings come five days after Goodson, 23, was shot under disputed circumstances. Law enforcement officials have said Goodson was waving a gun when a deputy shot him, but the man's family said he was carrying a sandwich bag and had just unlocked the door to his home. "Based on findings from the autopsy and medical death investigation, manner of death is homicide," Ortiz's office said in a press release Wednesday morning. The cause of death remains preliminary as the coroner's office has not yet received medical records or a toxicology report in the case. But the office added, "However, based on the current findings, cause of death is multiple gunshot wounds to the torso." Goodson's relatives said he was shot three times in the back; the coroner's statement does not describe the bullets' entry point or provide any other details about the man's wounds. - - "Goodson's family has raised multiple objections to the initial account of his death, saying that Goodson was shot while coming back from the dentist," NPR member station WOSU's Paige Pfleger reported. "Family members say he had just unlocked the side door to the house and was carrying Subway sandwiches for his family." The Franklin County Sheriff's Office said one of its deputies — Jason Meade, a 17-year veteran of the force – is the law enforcement officer who fired his gun at Goodson. At the time of the shooting, Meade was assigned full time to a U.S. Marshals Service fugitive task force. His team had just finished a search for "violent suspects" when Meade shot Goodson, police investigators said. "Goodson was not the object of the search, according to police, nor was he wanted by law enforcement," as NPR's Brakkton Booker has reported. The Columbus Division of Police has said that Meade "reported witnessing a man with a gun. The deputy was investigating the situation, and there are reports of a verbal exchange. The deputy fired at Mr. Casey Goodson, resulting in his death." The police said a gun was recovered from Goodson; his family issued a statement through an attorney saying in part, "Casey was licensed to carry a concealed weapon and Ohio does not prohibit the open carrying of firearms." There are no body camera recordings of the shooting; police said that deputies with the Franklin County Sheriff's Office aren't issued body-worn cameras. The force also said that no other law enforcement officers witnessed the shooting. The family's attorney said it was witnessed by Goodson's grandmother and two toddlers. - |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21256 |
12-09-20 11:42 PM - Post#317826
Just awful. Precisely what Towns had been so passionate about in taking a principled stand, well before this latest tragedy. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32860 |
12-10-20 09:11 AM - Post#317834
It's an absolute horror show, and it has been wildly exacerbated by Trump's Willie Horton strategy of pitting the police against people of color. We are in very dangerous times, especially if you are not white. |
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TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
12-10-20 02:12 PM - Post#317862
This story is bizarre. No explanation of why Goodson was killed in his own home. And seems to happen to blacks over and over. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32860 |
12-10-20 02:27 PM - Post#317865
Yes, and not surprisingly, it became a huge issue only after smart phones and body cameras came to use and showed everyone what always had been denied. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21256 |
12-10-20 03:07 PM - Post#317868
This story is bizarre. No explanation of why Goodson was killed in his own home. And seems to happen to blacks over and over. The explanation is clear. They were looking for a black suspect. And they found someone who was black. I mean, what more do you need to go whole hog after someone? That's the pattern. |
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TheLine Professor Posts 5597 |
12-12-20 10:24 AM - Post#317965
https://radio.wosu.org/post/ohio-bureau-crim inal-i... This is reprehensible. Horribly negligent at best, but would not be surprising if it was a purposeful coverup. Wonder if anyone will ever be held accountable. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21256 |
12-12-20 06:52 PM - Post#317981
https://radio.wosu.org/post/ohio-bureau-crim inal-i... This is reprehensible. Horribly negligent at best, but would not be surprising if it was a purposeful coverup. Wonder if anyone will ever be held accountable. I would be willing to bet that the DOJ under Biden will get involved if Ohio does not, or does and refuses to hold anyone accountable. |
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welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788 |
12-19-20 06:42 PM - Post#318134
Towns making his Ohio State debut and first game appearance since the end of his sophomore year at Harvard tonight against UCLA! He just came in off the bench late in the first half |
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welcometothejungle Masters Student Posts 788 |
12-26-20 03:54 PM - Post#318266
Towns is having his best game as a Buckeye today, he's got 11 points on 3/3 from 3 and 4/4 from the field at halftime against Northwestern |
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H78 PhD Student Posts 1458
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12-27-20 08:02 AM - Post#318273
Towns is having his best game as a Buckeye today, he's got 11 points on 3/3 from 3 and 4/4 from the field at halftime against Northwestern That bittersweet feeling of seeing my (ex)mother-in-law driving off the cliff in my new Mercedes... |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32860 |
12-27-20 08:37 AM - Post#318274
I think that as a group, we're going to have a lot of that feeling over the next 2 years. |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2697 |
12-27-20 10:10 AM - Post#318275
Glad to root for players like Seth and Bryce. They worked so hard for years fighting injuries. They both must have defied immense pressure to come to the Ivy League in the first place. Both earned their degrees and are fortunate to have an additional chance. Good Luck to all of those in similar positions. H78, I feel your pain. A full roster would have been so much fun! |
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mrjames Professor Posts 6062 |
12-27-20 10:31 AM - Post#318276
Yeah... I mean... I don't know that 17 year olds are playing this type of 3D chess, per se, but I'd be happy if the Ivy League got way better recruits because they'd play for us for two or three years, get an Ivy degree and then play as grad students elsewhere. I'm not going to bemoan Justice Ajogbor playing as a grad at a Power 5 school, I'm going to be happy that our league got potentially three years of seeing him play for us. Similar story on Llewellyn, Atkinson, Bruner and all the other players that came to our league over multi-bid league options. If those players start finding three years + one to get an Ivy degree, a grad degree AND a year of Power 5 experience... awesome for everyone! |
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H78 PhD Student Posts 1458
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12-29-20 01:17 AM - Post#318307
If those players start finding three years + one to get an Ivy degree, a grad degree AND a year of Power 5 experience... awesome for everyone! True. Just add a sheet to the 40 year decision living room chat--"And you might also get power 5 playing experience, plus a graduate degree!" |
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PennFan10 Postdoc Posts 3589 |
01-18-21 04:36 PM - Post#319490
Seth looked good against Illinois. I was surprised he didn't get more run in the second half. He must be on a minutes restriction. Played 15 vs Illinois and scored 11 pts on 4-5 shooting. |
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Flyerfanboi Freshman Posts 9 |
03-02-21 02:45 PM - Post#321309
looking forward to seeing him fully back for march madness |
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Flyerfanboi Freshman Posts 9 |
03-03-21 04:31 PM - Post#321315
think he will be a big part of Ohio State march madness. https://www.sportsbetting3.com/ncaabb/march-madnes... Dont think Gonzaga and Baylor are going to be able to stay strong during a bubble. |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3060 |
03-12-21 05:59 PM - Post#321895
Towns had 11 points, including 5 in OT, to help OSU beat Purdue in today's Big 10 Quarterfinals. Good to see him getting major minutes late. Next up - tomorrow vs Mike Smith & Michigan |
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