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penn nation Professor Posts 21206 |
07-29-20 10:24 AM - Post#310895
Some of the most significantly impacted schools have decided to have in person instruction in the fall, which is just plain ridiculous. Penn has more cases than any other Ivy (167), although many of these were first confirmed some time ago....not clear how many are still active confirmed cases. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/2 8/us/... |
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Quake Show Junior Posts 218 |
08-01-20 02:10 PM - Post#311050
Two active cases (known) among the student body, neither on campus currently |
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mobrien Masters Student Posts 402 |
08-09-20 07:32 PM - Post#311313
ESPN and SI are both reporting that the Power 5 conferences are probably going to postpone football until the spring. So, once again, the Ivies will have been the leading indicator for where college sports are headed. The good news as far as basketball is concerned is that it looks like every conference will now be starting the season in January, at the earliest (assuming there is one). Which means that it's possible that we could have a January to May season instead of a truncated January to March one, with some schools trying to play a limited schedule in November and December. Whether any of this happens, of course, depends on what's going on with the virus and a possible vaccine by early winter. Even in a best-case scenario, it'd be hard to believe that a vaccine would be widely available enough for college sports to get back going before March or April. We'll see. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21206 |
08-09-20 10:03 PM - Post#311319
It's also difficult to imagine any scenario involving an indoor, physical sport like basketball without a bubble for the forseeable future. |
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Quake Show Junior Posts 218 |
08-09-20 10:07 PM - Post#311321
Good news on both fronts. I'm glad that the safety of players and fans is being put first. Although, I have seen some high major teams (and MTEs) replace Ivies on their schedules without changing those dates. Of course, that might all change with a postponed season, but I wonder where our teams would be in that scenario? Would they be put back into those schedules in lieu of their replacements or would we suffer the consequences for taking the right steps before it was more mainstream? |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2692 |
08-10-20 08:59 AM - Post#311334
Even if season started in January, I wouldn't expect Ivies will have a desire to play OOC games. I just don't see the national or regional health situation changing for the better in the next 4 months. As schools open and weather cools it's more likely to get worse, not better. Thus, if you think this through, having basketball players practice in January on empty campuses in preparation for a conference schedule starting in February is the most I can envision. I think we need to keep expectations in check. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8257 
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08-10-20 11:10 AM - Post#311338
I agree this feels like the best case scenario unless the postseason tournaments are pushed out, effectively extending the season. That would open up all manner of possibilities from a scheduling perspective. I would think, and hope, the Big5 would prioritize getting their games in, but then I tend to be quite optimistic about such things. |
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Cooper Sophomore Posts 143 |
08-10-20 09:00 PM - Post#311365
Princeton's spring semester classes begin Feb. 1. Would they be allowed to bring basketball and hockey teams back before then to practice? Dartmouth and Harvard will have only half of their students on campus in the winter. How will they field full teams? There are a lot of questions to be answered. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21206 |
08-11-20 09:22 AM - Post#311377
Kaitlan Collins @kaitlancollins "I think they're making a tragic mistake," Trump says of college football teams that won't play this fall. He notes that he did not have the college football experience because he went to an Ivy League school. 8:22 AM · Aug 11, 2020·Twitter Web App https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status /12931607... |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32834 |
08-11-20 10:28 AM - Post#311381
Idk---didn't Trump's Wharton years coincide with a guy named Calvin Hill running ramshod over opponents of all calibers climaxed by the 1968 29-29 tie between Harvard and Yale? And in 1968, Penn went 7-2, finishing right behind those two, in an era where Penn still got pretty decent crowds to Franklin Field. Trump, of course, never was around for games as he reportedly went up to New York virtually every weekend. It was his choice not to have a college football experience. Not that that has anything to do with whether they should be playing football when campuses themselves are closed down. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8257
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08-11-20 01:54 PM - Post#311394
I would argue he didn't have of a Penn experience either over just two years of avoiding campus (and likely classrooms) as much as possible. |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2692 |
09-11-20 09:33 AM - Post#313174
Remember when we were wondering about the collateral impacts of bringing students back? NYT's article shows increasing 7 day average of new cases in counties with colleges and another graph I saw shows same in college towns while those without colleges are dropping. No uptick in deaths yet. Anyone have any Ivy anecdotes? |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32834 |
09-11-20 09:55 AM - Post#313176
My guess is that when the infected students go into classes the death rate will tick up. I don't know what they were thinking at especially the big public universities where it is impossible to monitor or control student behavior---18-21 year olds feel impregnable and are going to party and have fun. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32834 |
09-11-20 10:09 AM - Post#313178
https://apnews.com/3e97872bf3cd869706401 4efcf2ec62... |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3057 |
09-11-20 11:42 AM - Post#313185
Ivy COVID-19 Dashboards Brown: https://healthy.brown.edu/testing-tracing/dashb oar... Columbia: https://covid19.columbia.edu/ Cornell: https://covid.cornell.edu/testing/dashboard/ Dartmouth: https://news.dartmouth.edu/covid-19/academic-yea r-... Harvard: https://www.harvard.edu/coronavirus/harvard-u niver... Penn: https://coronavirus.upenn.edu/content/dashboard Princeton: Cannot find an actual dashboard https://www.princeton.edu/content/covid-19-coro nav... Yale: https://covid19.yale.edu/yale-statistics |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3057 |
09-11-20 12:13 PM - Post#313188
Brown Will be returning more students next week and resuming classes in early October https://www.browndailyherald.com/2020/09/10/brown-... - The decision was influenced by improvements in Rhode Island’s public health situation, low positivity rates from Brown’s COVID-19 testing program and low demand for isolation and quarantine rooms at the University, President Christina Paxson P’19 wrote in a Thursday community email announcing the reopening. - - About 900 undergraduates who have not yet returned to Brown could move back to Providence between Sept. 18 and 20, with some in-person instruction set to start Oct. 5. - Cornell Cornell has the most ambitious mitigation/testing program and has brought the largest number of students back. There have been some glitches in the testing program, but overall seems to be good. The dashboard was not updated through the Labor Day weekend, which did not go well with the campus and community. Late last week, the school moved from its low "green" risk category to low-to-moderate "yellow" due to two clusters. There were 36 student athletes in those groups. https://cornellsun.com/2020/09/03/cornell-ti cks-up... The school originally said it would go remote if there were 250 active cases on campus, but Governor Cuomo announced that any NY college or university would go remote if there were active cases of 100+ or 55 of total on-campus population (whichever is less) in a 14 day period. The number of on-campus cases is determined by students in dorms + off-campus students who have at least 1 class or lab on-campus + staff that works on-campus. The 14 day clock started the day that classes officially began (9/2 for Cornell). As of 9/9, Cornell sits at 42 active cases in the Cuomo-metric. Penn: School was going to stop asymptomatic testing this weekend and move to symptomatic/surveillance testing. Students petitioned to have asymptomatic testing extended throughout the semester. https://www.thedp.com/article/2020/09/gatew ay-asym... Last night, the DP reported that the school changed course and will continue asymptomatic testing throughout the semester. From the info in the article, it is hard to see how the changes are different than Penn's previously planned protocol. Also, there will be a new protocol for specific communal groups (Greek Life, off-campus Greek affiliated organizations, athletics, and student organizations known to live in common houses). https://www.thedp.com/article/2020/09/penn- greek-l... - The second email, which will be sent to students in Greek Life, off-campus Greek affiliated organizations, athletics, and student organizations known to live in common houses, has been written in conjunction with the Philadelphia Department of Public Health to help these groups lessen and contain and reduce the virus's spread. A memo written by Philadelphia Health Commissioner Thomas Farley will be apart of the email. The memo, titled "Alert — COVID-19 Transmission among Greek Organization Members and Affiliates," was written in response to a large number of positive cases in Greek Life organizations at Penn, Temple University, and other Philadelphia-area colleges, Director of Digital Public Health Jim Garrow said in the interview with the DP. Halbritter declined to specify the exact group or college, but said in one Philadelphia Greek house, 39% of residents tested positive for the virus. "This memo is meant to be a targeted communication to students in Greek Life, but it applies to other students as well," Garrow said. "We are recommending that students living in large households remain in their homes." - Yale Moved from its low risk "green" category to low-to-moderate "yellow" category. I cannot find any information why this was done. |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2692 |
09-11-20 03:41 PM - Post#313202
Thanks for the thorough and very useful response. Glad to see the early results. |
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Old Bear Postdoc Posts 3998 |
09-11-20 04:58 PM - Post#313205
Brown Will not have a freshman on campus until the second trimester. |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3057 |
09-18-20 12:22 AM - Post#313573
Brown: https://healthy.brown.edu/testing-tracing/dashb oar... 9/10-0/16? - asymptomatic tests - 2 confirmed positive; 7,660 tests https://www.browndailyherald.com/2020/09/17/compar... - While this rate has been lower than that of some other academic institutions across the country, the University must stay vigilant, said Dean of the School of Public Health Ashish Jha, a public health expert and advisor on the COVID-19 pandemic. The current low positivity rates are “really important because you want to start at a low baseline,†said Jha. But he doesn’t “expect us to stay that low.†“Right now things are looking great, but we’re in the early days,†Jha said. “We haven’t really started (in-person) classes, so we haven’t had enough people back yet†to have the numbers reflect the impending in-person dynamic. - Columbia: https://covid19.columbia.edu/ Campus Results Week of September 7 - 0 positive results; 3,579 tests Cornell: https://covid.cornell.edu/testing/dashboard/ 9/10-9/16 14 positive tests; .04% positivity rate 4 on-campus positive cases 1 positive case over last four days https://cornellsun.com/2020/09/16/cornell-re turns-... - After 13 days at the yellow alert level, Cornell has returned to its “new normal†as it reported zero new cases for two days straight and only three confirmed on-campus positives since Sept. 12. In a Wednesday email to the Cornell community, Provost Mike Kotlikoff and Vice President for Student and Campus Life Ryan Lombardi lauded the efforts of students, faculty and staff in containing the spread when announcing the shift to green. “Our positivity rate remains low, and our program for surveillance testing has succeeded in providing early identification of cases — the majority of which have been asymptomatic,†the two wrote. The change is indicative of low prevalence and controlled transmission among the campus community. After the move to the yellow alert level, the frequency of testing for some groups — such as student athletes — was increased, and the capacity of on-campus spaces was reduced. - Dartmouth: Week of 9/13 - 2 positive; 2,765 tests 65 in quarantine; 11 in isolation https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2020/09/on-ca ... - Despite long lines, testing delays and undetected outbreaks at other colleges nationwide, Dartmouth’s comprehensive COVID-19 testing has so far gone as planned, in an effort to help keep the virus contained on campus. As of Wednesday, Dartmouth’s online dashboard reported that Dartmouth had seen just two positive COVID-19 tests out of the 8,048 performed on 5,254 students, faculty and staff at testing sites on campus. “It’s really been an amazingly seamless process,†said Dick’s House office manager Pam Holbrook, who serves as site operations manager for the testing location. Most graduate students have been tested upon arrival in the Upper Valley, many earlier in the summer. Students began arriving on campus for the fall term on Sept. 7 and were tested on the day they arrive — “day zero†— as well as three and seven days afterward.- Harvard: https://www.harvard.edu/coronavirus/harvard-u niver... 9/10-9/16 - 11 positive cases; 11,650 tests 12 in isolation, 31 in quarantine Penn: https://coronavirus.upenn.edu/content/dashboard 9/6-9/12 - 76 positive cases; 3,029 tests; 2.51% positivity rate https://www.thedp.com/article/2020/09/penn- covid19... - The weekly COVID-19 case count at Penn spiked considerably last week with 76 positive cases, nearly tripling the previous week's numbers of 26. The University reported 76 positive cases for the week ending in Sept. 12 — the highest weekly case count so far this semester — after reporting only 26 cases for the week ending in Sept. 5. The weekly positivity rate also jumped from 0.66% to 2.51%, nearly quadrupling. The week before classes began saw the second highest weekly case count and positivity rate at 33 and 0.85%, respectively. Chief Wellness Officer Benoit Dubé wrote in an email to The Daily Pennsylvanian that contact tracers have identified and isolated the source of the rise in positive cases last week. "The positivity rate uptick was driven mostly by 3 groups of students in shared community circles," he wrote. "Appropriate isolation and quarantine recommendations have been implemented and we are continuing to monitor the situation.†- Princeton: ? Yale: https://covid19.yale.edu/yale-statistics 9/9-9.15 - 3 positive tests; 6,050 people tested; 9.321 total tests 99% isolation space available Yellow Alert Level: Low-to-Moderate Risk |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3057 |
09-23-20 11:39 AM - Post#313884
Some Harvard & Yale staff have evaluated COVID dashboards across the country and created a rating system. https://www.ratecoviddashboard.com/ You can find reviews for each school and a link to their dashboards from the site. They updated its Ivy League ratings: https://twitter.com/CovidDashboards/statu s/1308545... Brown Rating: A Easy to read. Updated Daily; data with positive cases and total number of tests; student and employee data separately; cross-sectional city and county data; testing frequency; summary of institutions; Rated on 9/14/20 Columbia Rating: B+ Easy to read. Not updated daily; data with positive cases and total number of tests; city and county data trends; testing frequency; Rated on 9/21/20 Cornell Rating: A- Easy to read. Updated Daily; data with positive cases and total number of tests; student and employee data separately; test result time; summary of institutions; Rated on 9/21/20 Dartmouth Rating: B+ Easy to read. Updated Daily; data with positive cases and total number of tests; student and employee data separately; the number of students in isolation or quarantine status; Rated on 9/17/20 (Original Review) Rating: B Easy to read. Not updated daily; data with positive cases and total number of tests; student and employee data separately; the number of students in isolation or quarantine status; Rated on 9/15/20 Harvard Rating: A Easy to read. Updated Daily; data with positive cases and total number of tests; student and employee data separately; cross-sectional city and county data; testing frequency; test result time; the number of students in isolation or quarantine status; Rated on 9/14/20 Penn Rating: C+ Easy to read. Not updated daily; data with positive cases and total number of tests; Rated on 9/21/20 Princeton Rating: F No Dashboard Rated on 9/21/20 Yale Rating: A Easy to read. Updated Daily; data with positive cases and total number of tests; student and employee data separately; city and county data trends; summary of institutions; Rated on 9/21/20 |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8257
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09-23-20 01:26 PM - Post#313898
Reminds me of the P38 report cards |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32834 |
09-23-20 01:49 PM - Post#313910
Naw---no one is giving him any sh.t. |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6413 |
09-23-20 02:15 PM - Post#313921
They badly underestimate Eric Osmundson’s value as a defender. |
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sparman PhD Student Posts 1347 
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09-23-20 02:29 PM - Post#313924
How meaningful is a dashboard when there are no undergrad students (and I suspect few faculty) physically on campus? |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32834 |
09-23-20 02:42 PM - Post#313928
Nothing makes me smile like the devotees of the Great and Powerful Oz |
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rbg Postdoc Posts 3057 |
09-24-20 10:16 AM - Post#313998
I would think that it's important to have dashboards available for schools with few students back, since there is probably a larger number of students living off-campus. It's also helpful to see if their mitigation strategies are working effectively. For those schools that have few students on campus (Columbia, Harvard, Penn), the goal would be to have low numbers. Columbia and Harvard seem to reflect that. However, Penn's numbers are noticeably higher than the other two. Thankfully, the rise in cases two weeks ago, dropped last week. With Penn, it can serve as a wake up call for the administration and students that they all need to do better if they want things to move in a better direction (more students on campus, sports to resume, etc.) Cornell, which has the most students back on campus, had a large number of cases earlier this semester and everyone seems to have learned lessons to improve the situation. For Brown, which is just starting to bring back students, the low dashboard numbers can be used like a baseline to compare it to the upcoming numbers with more students on campus. |
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westcoast Senior Posts 302 |
09-24-20 04:12 PM - Post#314048
Princeton's Covid Dashboard is here: https://fall2020.princeton.edu/health-guidance/cov... |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2692 |
09-30-20 09:19 PM - Post#314310
Bumped into a Penn varsity basketball player today in locally in NJ. He was proudly sporting Penn BB store. Confirmed that there is no practicing and that they have no idea if there will be a season. Also seemed to believe that players registering for the transfer portal are doing so primarily to keep options open. |
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Mike Porter Postdoc Posts 3618 
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 09-30-20 11:58 PM - Post#314317
Please tell me it was in Princeton, NJ? Would somehow be perfect if a Harvard fan bumped into a Penn player in Princeton and shared forth the update to all Ivy League b-ball fans. 
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penn nation Professor Posts 21206 |
10-01-20 01:25 AM - Post#314321
Please tell me it was in Princeton, NJ? Would somehow be perfect if a Harvard fan bumped into a Penn player in Princeton and shared forth the update to all Ivy League b-ball fans. Well, it's not unheard of for a Harvard dude to be checking out Penn guys in New Jersey. |
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HARVARDDADGRAD Postdoc Posts 2692 |
10-01-20 01:45 AM - Post#314322
No, not in Princeton. The player didn’t divulge anything really. Just confirmed what we all already know. Guess it’s best if I remain vague to protect his identity. |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6413 |
10-01-20 10:55 AM - Post#314353
Only a couple of Penn players from Jersey. But as we know from Tommy Amaker, sometimes people from other states are just wandering around in New Jersey. So it could be anyone. |
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SomeGuy Professor Posts 6413 |
10-05-20 11:14 AM - Post#314559
Somehow missed Penn Nation’s earlier post when I made this little joke. Apologies to Penn Nation for repeating it, and apologies to Harvard folks for piling on. |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
10-05-20 11:39 AM - Post#314560
I'm good with it showing up twice. This is something that should always be remembered. |
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