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SteveChop
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11-27-21 10:23 PM - Post#329895    

Since I will not be in person tomorrow, how do I watch the game?
penn nation
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11-27-21 10:32 PM - Post#329896    

I think this is the same scenario as the first Penn game in the SC tourney.

The game is listed on the ESPN+ schedule, as an SEC Network game (with the SC tourney, it was the ACC+ Network game).

https://www.espn.com/watch/schedule/_/type /upcomin...
Quake Show
Junior
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11-28-21 12:18 AM - Post#329898    

As much as I love that we are playing some fantastic teams this year (FSU, Utah State, Arkansas, Villanova), I am am scared to watch this game.

Arkansas is known for doing the things that completely silence this team: play tough defense, run a fast-break offense, and play above the rim. Musselman's teams are known for being tough above all else. In terms of our opponents, that so far seems to be our kryptonite. Still hoping we prevail, but would really not like to watch a massacre.
10Q
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11-28-21 08:20 AM - Post#329903    

Right. If all you have is ESPN+ (like me) you won't be able to see the game. You'll need a cable package.
13otto
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13otto
11-28-21 09:21 AM - Post#329905    

Correct. Similar to the FSU game on the ACC Network, you'll need a cable/satellite package that includes the SEC Network, such as DirecTV.
http://www.letsgoquakers.com/

palestra38
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11-28-21 09:41 AM - Post#329908    

I like the confidence of these guys--taking on the NFL and Green Bay-Rams with Penn-Arkansas and requiring people to pay for it.

Regrettably, this is likely to be ugly. I really dislike what the Penn athletic department did to the team and fans this year--it's all about the money.
SomeGuy
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11-28-21 11:01 AM - Post#329915    

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the team likes it. And as a fan, it’s really just a question of whether it is damaging to the team. I can see scenarios where it is a positive in getting us ready for the league. We still could learn to lose, but the first two games didn’t seem to hurt us — we played our best basketball in games four and five.
tioga
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11-28-21 12:14 PM - Post#329923    

Verizon FIOS in central PA (Hbg. area at least) is apparently carrying the game on channel 575 at 4 PM.
palestra38
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11-28-21 01:14 PM - Post#329929    

..as a fan who doesn't go to the games, anyway.

Frankly, I get little satisfaction of seeing Penn get blown out in a mismatch before they had any chance to put together a team playing together. I remain optimistic about this team, but see little justification for giving up 3 winnable home games for paychecks---and that is what they did (without losing revenue because they charged the season ticket holders the same amount). After making almost windfall profits from the mRNA vaccine (the new $1.5 billion hospital paid off its construction debt), making the basketball team act like Prairie View is somewhat demeaning.
palestra38
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11-28-21 01:16 PM - Post#329930    

Xfinity Philadelphia--SEC Network, Ch. 864
penn nation
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11-28-21 02:58 PM - Post#329939    

Will likely be latkes and lighting time at chez Nation for much of this game.

So will have to watch the replay, if I can stomach it.
penn nation
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11-28-21 05:04 PM - Post#329958    

Let's just remember the first couple of minutes.

That was one heck of a feed from Spinoso to a cutting Martz down the lane.

5-4 lead, Penn. Take a photo of it, 2+ minutes have been played.
91Quake
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11-28-21 05:05 PM - Post#329959    

No Dingle or MLL today. Ooof.
penn nation
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11-28-21 05:06 PM - Post#329960    

Oy. SD and [trainer from Arkansas?] come to take Spinoso off the court, looks like he cannot put any weight off of one side.
Penn7277
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11-28-21 05:08 PM - Post#329961    

What happened to Dingle?
penn nation
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11-28-21 05:08 PM - Post#329962    

ARK fouled on the drive, will shoot 2 after the 16:00 media time out.

7-7.
SomeGuy
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11-28-21 05:09 PM - Post#329963    

That’s our team doctor.
penn nation
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11-28-21 05:09 PM - Post#329964    

  • Penn7277 Said:
What happened to Dingle?



What happened to MLL?

What happened to Wang (redux)?
penn nation
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11-28-21 05:10 PM - Post#329965    

Ah. I have this muted right now.
SomeGuy
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11-28-21 05:10 PM - Post#329966    

Sick, apparently. They said he is on the trip and in the locker room.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 05:10 PM - Post#329967    

Dingle is out with illness. I assume it’s flu and not COVID since no one has mentioned latter.

SomeGuy
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11-28-21 05:10 PM - Post#329968    

They said MLL was a hand injury.
penn nation
Professor
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11-28-21 05:10 PM - Post#329969    

Well, latke time soon approaching.

Just as well--this is going to get ugly soon.
10Q
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11-28-21 05:10 PM - Post#329970    

Need a Chanukah miracle. The weak can beat the mighty.
Penn7277
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11-28-21 05:11 PM - Post#329971    

MLL has an injured foot they said.
91Quake
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11-28-21 05:14 PM - Post#329972    

If we don't hit our 3s this will be over early.
penn nation
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11-28-21 05:16 PM - Post#329973    

Kicked ball prevented a nice redux of the cutter play to Martz, with Mosh being the distributor.

Penn hanging in at 14-12--Williams got fouled and hit a 3 (although not the fourth point). Problem is that Arkansas can pretty much get any shot it wants after 2-3 passes.
SomeGuy
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11-28-21 05:19 PM - Post#329974    

I knew it was an appendage.
91Quake
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11-28-21 05:21 PM - Post#329975    

Good to see we are running some backdoor cuts. That is the only thing that will stop them overplaying the passing lanes. We ran zero or so against Fla St.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 05:23 PM - Post#329976    

Missing wide open three after wide open three. Desperately need Charles to can a couple.

penn nation
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11-28-21 05:23 PM - Post#329977    

Charles finally with a wide open look.

But not on target.
penn nation
Professor
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11-28-21 05:24 PM - Post#329978    

Washington in the house. Some shake and bake got him to the hoop and a bucket.
91Quake
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11-28-21 05:26 PM - Post#329979    

Can Mosh finish anything? Seems to lack confidence to take it up strong.
Penndemonium
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11-28-21 05:27 PM - Post#329980    

I like how Williams has started. He is probing the defense.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 05:27 PM - Post#329981    

Slajchert forced a miss on the last possession, but overall they’re moving the ball well and getting good looks. Just not taking advantage, allowing Arkansas to slowly build this 9-point lead.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 05:30 PM - Post#329982    

Another open miss, this time by Martz off a good pass from Mosh.

SteveChop
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11-28-21 05:31 PM - Post#329983    

For any FiOS customers in lower Merion, game is on channel 575.

Sam is the longtime trainer of the Quakers not a doctor
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 05:31 PM - Post#329984    

Charles finally gets one to go off the offensive rebound by Bryce.

SteveChop
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11-28-21 05:33 PM - Post#329985    

Jonah has to take that shot going through the lane. We’ve had a bunch of those already
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 05:33 PM - Post#329986    

Dreadful pass by Charles to Mosh’s feet. And after Arkansas blows the transition layup, Jelani with his second bad turnover in the last handful of possessions.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 05:35 PM - Post#329987    

Nice duck under by Slajchert.

palestra38
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11-28-21 05:36 PM - Post#329988    

This is much better than anything I expected
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 05:36 PM - Post#329989    

Charles another wide open miss off a good Bryce kickout.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 05:39 PM - Post#329991    

Mosh fails to finish, and Hogs get the runout.


Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 05:40 PM - Post#329992    

Slajchert keeping us in icontact.

palestra38
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11-28-21 05:41 PM - Post#329993    

Nice dunk by Monroe

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 05:44 PM - Post#329994    

Terrible finish. Mosh gets the steal with time to get downcourt, but Charles can’t handle the routine outlet pass, fumbles it out of bounds, and Hogs get the floater in the lane to end the first up. 37-26.


Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 05:47 PM - Post#329995    

4-14 from three isn’t going to cut it, although their 1-8 from three has helped offset that somewhat and prevented this from turning into a blowout so far. Slajchert with 10 points replacing Dingle in the lineup, but no one else with more than 4.

Quake Show
Junior
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11-28-21 06:11 PM - Post#329999    

Moshkovitz is 0-5 so far with at least 2 missed layups. Charles has missed several wide open threes. Gotta finish
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:11 PM - Post#330000    

7-0 run by Arkansas to start the half until a Slajchert FT w/16:49 left.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:14 PM - Post#330001    

Nothing going on offense, and Arkansas size and athleticism asserting itself in the paint on the other end now. Offensive rebound leads to kickout three and its 49-27 at first media timeout.

penn nation
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11-28-21 06:17 PM - Post#330002    

Charles misses another wide open 3. That was really our only chance today of keeping it close.

Can't miss as many as he has like that.
dperry
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dperry
11-28-21 06:26 PM - Post#330003    

  • palestra38 Said:
After making almost windfall profits from the mRNA vaccine (the new $1.5 billion hospital paid off its construction debt), making the basketball team act like Prairie View is somewhat demeaning.



We made money from the mRNA shots? How did that happen? (Discussion of the schedule in general later and separately.)
David Perry
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To thee, Pennsylvania/All rivals must bow!!!"

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:28 PM - Post#330004    

Slajchert hits the pull-up three and gets fouled foe the four-point play to cut the lead to 15. He has really stepped up.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:29 PM - Post#330006    

Slajchert misses two threes, but Monroe gets the board and the foul. Makes both FTs, 55-42 Hogs.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:30 PM - Post#330007    

Monroe forces bad shot off drive with a chance to cut it to 11.

penn nation
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11-28-21 06:31 PM - Post#330008    

Today was Clark's official stepping out party.

This will bode well for Ivy play.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:31 PM - Post#330009    

But he gets the bad foul call on Arkansas on the other end and makes 1-2 FTs.

penn nation
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11-28-21 06:33 PM - Post#330010    

Martz to Monroe, another nice cutter play.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:35 PM - Post#330011    

Monroe can’t grab an offensive board off a Slajchert missed three, and it’s 62-47 Hogs, 7:39 left, under 8:00 media timeout.

penn nation
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11-28-21 06:35 PM - Post#330012    

Considering the number of Penn players out today (including Spinoso who only had a cup of coffee), and Charles being off, the outcome today could easily have been much more along the lines of the Florida State game.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:37 PM - Post#330013    

Bad, bad pass attempt by Slajchert trying to force it in close to Mosh in the paint.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:38 PM - Post#330015    

Smith hits his first three but his second goes all the way down and then spins out with a chance to cut it to 11.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:39 PM - Post#330016    

Monroe makes 2 FTs to cut it to 12.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:40 PM - Post#330017    

Great back cut by Slajchert and feed by Mosh for layup.

penn nation
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11-28-21 06:41 PM - Post#330018    

  • penn nation Said:
Considering the number of Penn players out today (including Spinoso who only had a cup of coffee), and Charles being off, the outcome today could easily have been much more along the lines of the Florida State game.



We trailed FSU by 12 at the half; here it was 11. At one point in the second half FSU was up 41.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:42 PM - Post#330019    

Arkansas misses 2 FTs, and foul on rebound puts Mosh st line with chance to cut it to 10.

Makes 1-2. 66-55.

Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:43 PM - Post#330020    

Smith fakes shot, drives baseline, and nice pass to Monroe for foul. Makes 1-2.

penn nation
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11-28-21 06:44 PM - Post#330021    

Team FT shooting now does appear to be an issue, other than Clark. The early FT shooting seems like it was a mirage in retrospect.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:45 PM - Post#330022    

After UA bucket, Slajchert stripped, but Hogs turn it over at other end.

68-56 Arkansas, under 4:00 timeout.

penn nation
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11-28-21 06:46 PM - Post#330023    

The resilience of this team is something. Maybe that was the takeaway from the Towson game, which was really the only one all season where they quit.
SomeGuy
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11-28-21 06:47 PM - Post#330024    

Career highs for Lucas and Clark.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:48 PM - Post#330025    

Two empty possessions in a row..

penn nation
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11-28-21 06:48 PM - Post#330026    

Clark can't finish that one, but it was set up by some nice Penn passing.
Chip Bayers
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Chip Bayers
11-28-21 06:49 PM - Post#330027    

Martz a really off day from 3.

penn nation
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11-28-21 06:50 PM - Post#330028    

The team is 4 for 19 aside from Clark.
penn nation
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11-28-21 06:52 PM - Post#330029    

One final cutter play from Smith to Laczkowski concludes the scoring.

76-60.
SomeGuy
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11-28-21 06:53 PM - Post#330030    

Yes, if Charles and Martz were hitting from 3, who knows.
dperry
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dperry
11-28-21 06:55 PM - Post#330032    

Well, given that we didn't have our best player and two others, not bad. Unlike Florida State, this time they looked like they belonged on the same court.
David Perry
Penn '92
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To thee, Pennsylvania/All rivals must bow!!!"

penn nation
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11-28-21 06:59 PM - Post#330035    

  • dperry Said:
Well, given that we didn't have our best player and two others, not bad. Unlike Florida State, this time they looked like they belonged on the same court.



On offense at times, yes.

On defense...I mean, neither FSU nor Arkansas had to work all that hard to get any shot that it wanted. The difference is that at FSU we turned it over a lot due to their pressure, leading to a lot of points. Today, Arkansas at times didn't allow us to bring the ball up without some pressure, but it was nothing like FSU. They could simply pass and move and cut and get the ball in scoring position without having to resort to defensive pressure.

SomeGuy
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11-28-21 07:04 PM - Post#330036    

Arkansas also takes a lot of shots that we don’t value. So in some ways it was a good matchup for us, because they would settle for 2 point jumpers. Looks like any shot they wanted, but some of that is that they were taking a lot of the shots we want them to take.
penn nation
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11-28-21 07:06 PM - Post#330037    

They shot over 50% from the game, and a decent chunk of those were layups or dunks.

What prevented this from being a blowout, in part, is that they just could not buy a 3. 3 for 17. And despite this they still shot 50% from the field overall.


dperry
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dperry
11-28-21 07:13 PM - Post#330041    

Nevertheless, this is a team that was 5-0 coming in, had beaten Cincinnati and Kansas St, both pretty good programs, and has a notoriously difficult arena to play in. If you had told me that Dingle, MLL, and Wang would all be out, I would have told you that we'd lose by 35. It's something to build on, at least.
David Perry
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To thee, Pennsylvania/All rivals must bow!!!"

penn nation
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11-28-21 07:17 PM - Post#330042    

Arkansas scored 76 points.

48 of them were points in the paint.

They also hit three from beyond the arc (9 points) and 9 FTs.

So that's a grand total of 10 points scored on two point shots that were not in the paint.

They were 29 for 46 (63%) on two point attempts, with 24 out of the 29 made buckets coming in the paint.
penn nation
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11-28-21 07:18 PM - Post#330043    

Agree with you. Plus Spinoso being out early on, and it did not look good.
palestra38
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11-28-21 07:38 PM - Post#330051    

Just one more kill before we start having a chance
penn nation
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11-28-21 07:43 PM - Post#330052    

And Nova will have played on Penn's home court more recently than the Quakers.

They are giving the "home" Explorers quite a workout right now at the Palestra.
penn nation
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11-28-21 11:21 PM - Post#330068    

https://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2021/nov/28/un...

So Dingle fell ill on the flight to Arkansas.

Surprised that SD came out and said that there was a mental health issue with "another guy" [I think we can all figure out who that would be].
UPIA1968
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UPIA1968
11-28-21 11:22 PM - Post#330069    

Whatever Arkansas's skill, they closed out the game with a series of layups against an impotent Penn defense. Looked more like poor fundamentals than lack of talent.

At KenPom 280 on defense this team is so far showing the defensive challenges we worried about coming into the season. Interestingly the offensive rank is 152, a surprisingly good number given the tough schedule. That is reason for hope.

So, one more beat up at Villanova before we get to a stretch of games that will tells us more about the Ivy chances.
penn nation
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11-28-21 11:33 PM - Post#330071    

We had a lot of guys playing a LOT more minutes that what they were used to, given all of the players that were either out or left the game early on.

Against a very athletic club, to boot.

We hung in there and it was basically a 10-12 point game until a few minutes left.

Giving up some layups during garbage time should not be the main concern.
Penndemonium
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11-29-21 02:31 AM - Post#330076    

What struck me is that we could create open shots easily against a pretty good team. We just didn't hit open threes and really didn't have anyone who was finishing well in the lane. The only shots that seemed to work were our cuts to the lane. Even still, we were in the game against an above average team.
Streamers
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Streamers
11-29-21 10:30 AM - Post#330088    

  • penn nation Said:

Against a very athletic club, to boot.

We hung in there and it was basically a 10-12 point game until a few minutes left.



The line was 18 and I thought we had no chance to cover after the way things started.

If MLL and Spinoso can return soon and Slachjert gains confidence from this game, I can be optimistic.
Silver Maple
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11-29-21 10:34 AM - Post#330090    

Agreed. There's still work to be done, but the fact that this team, depleted as it was, hung in with Arkansas has to be encouraging.
Streamers
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Streamers
11-29-21 10:37 AM - Post#330091    

I don’t think we can expect the defense to improve much until MLL comes back.

Another takeaway is we got more proof of how valuable Monroe is to this team.
penn nation
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11-29-21 10:52 AM - Post#330094    

  • Streamers Said:

The line was 18 and I thought we had no chance to cover after the way things started.




Was the line 18 even knowing that Dingle would not play? I find that hard to believe.
mbaprof
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11-29-21 01:18 PM - Post#330099    

Covered the first half, with this team better to bet in game after we fall behind, early or after half, worked at towson
They dont quit!

andybech
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11-29-21 02:03 PM - Post#330105    

Definitely agree about Monroe. He is their best glue guy out there giving them defense but also helping them to bring the ball up court against taller defenders.

Cautiously optimistic about this team being competitive in the Ivies. They can shoot. They'll need the two big men back, but MLL and Spinoso makes them average at the 5. They need to learn how to play better team defense and cut the turnovers. If they do that the team will be competitive.
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Streamers
11-29-21 03:08 PM - Post#330113    

  • penn nation Said:

Was the line 18 even knowing that Dingle would not play? I find that hard to believe.


That was before the Dingle news.
Silver Maple
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11-29-21 03:43 PM - Post#330124    

I'm worried about durability at the 5. That position might be turning into a bit of a telenovela. How's Larsen coming along?

penn nation
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11-29-21 03:51 PM - Post#330126    

  • Streamers Said:
  • penn nation Said:

Was the line 18 even knowing that Dingle would not play? I find that hard to believe.


That was before the Dingle news.



Who says there are no such things as moral victories? That last basket from Smith to Laczkowski is even sweeter with that knowledge.


10Q
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11-29-21 05:07 PM - Post#330131    

I’m just trying to figure out which one this year was the most moral
penn nation
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11-29-21 05:33 PM - Post#330132    

  • 10Q Said:
I’m just trying to figure out which one this year was the most moral



Florida State was the most seminole.

10Q
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11-29-21 06:20 PM - Post#330140    

Belichick gets the most immoral victories
penn nation
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11-30-21 12:11 AM - Post#330163    

Anything Jerry Jones does is immoral.


10Q
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11-30-21 09:40 AM - Post#330169    

Would you guys take it to the OTB already.



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