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jeromelh
Junior
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10-14-23 09:28 AM - Post#358418    

I was looking at the Detroit Pistons preseason game box scores. In addition to the starting 5, there were 16 reserves. Of those only 7 saw court time. Tosan has had court time (although only a minute or two) in both of those games. This is encouraging. He must be showing something in practice. It would be nice to see him get a two-way contract.

Tiger84
Senior
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10-15-23 02:50 PM - Post#358439    

well, 5 seconds in game 2....
jeromelh
Junior
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10-16-23 01:02 PM - Post#358457    

and 3 minutes in game one. However, that is more than the other 7 who didn't see court time at all. I hope that that is an encouraging sign.

gokinsmen
Postdoc
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11-12-23 06:06 PM - Post#359065    

In his G-League debut, Tosan started and had a double-double: 11p/11r/2b. Team high +20 in a win. Made 1-2 threes. Pretty good considering he just stood in the corner on offense.

I know he's not going to be the primary ballhandler, but since it's G-League, why not let him try facilitating in short spurts? It's like Detroit didn't even watch his NCAA games.
jeromelh
Junior
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11-12-23 06:28 PM - Post#359066    

Is it possible to stream any of these games
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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11-12-23 06:57 PM - Post#359067    

https://detroit.gleague.nba.com/schedule?month=11

They stream them on the G-League website (via YouTube), Facebook Live or ESPN+.
jeromelh
Junior
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11-12-23 07:01 PM - Post#359068    

???? thx
SRP
Postdoc
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11-12-23 08:55 PM - Post#359073    

From the early returns, the Pistons seemed to love Tosan's defense and rebounding more than his offensive game. They seemed to want him to be enough of a scoring threat to keep defenses honest, but not to initiate much. That might change over time.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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11-14-23 10:44 PM - Post#359212    

Tosan picked up 7 assists (and 15pts) in 30min off the bench today - another win. I rifled through the ESPN+ replay and he got regular touches instead of standing in the corner all the time. Hopefully, the Pistons/Cruise are learning how good he is as a facilitator.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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11-21-23 12:39 AM - Post#359536    

Tosan had his best game yet: team-high 24p/5a/5r/2s in a big comeback win. One of his 2 threes was a late game-tying shot that he let go with no hesitation. I didn't see the game live but I skipped through it on the G-League's YouTube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlzrbf6SxoQ

Four games in, Tosan looks a lot more comfortable already. He's learning how to play his style of ball despite fewer touches. He's putting up very good, efficient stats while his team is 4-0. If Tosan keeps this up, he'll make his NBA debut by season's end.

SRP
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12-01-23 01:06 AM - Post#359950    

Does the historically horrendous start for the Pistons this season make the possibility of Tosan getting called up to the bigs an opportunity or a threat?
jeromelh
Junior
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12-21-23 06:01 PM - Post#360774    

I remembered that the Motor City Cruise played a couple of days ago and I looked to see how Tosan performed
MY GOD!!
24 points on 10-13 shooting with 4 of 5 from 3.
17 rebounds and 4 assists.
SRP
Postdoc
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12-21-23 06:31 PM - Post#360777    

Wow! Crushing it. Some canny GM on another team ought to propose a trade where Tosan is just a “throw-in” to the “main” transaction. Get a steal.
SRP
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12-21-23 06:41 PM - Post#360778    

This is pretty good:

https://goprincetontigers .com/news/2023/12/20/mens...
jeromelh
Junior
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12-21-23 07:35 PM - Post#360779    

Detroit pistons are the worst team in the NBA. Time to give Tosan a look
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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12-21-23 08:59 PM - Post#360781    

  • SRP Said:


  • Quote:
"We've had his name float around recently with major ball clubs. He's got a lot of eyes on him; some good things are in store for him."



I'm guessing Tosan makes his NBA debut by season's end. If not for the Pistons, then for someone else.
jeromelh
Junior
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12-28-23 09:11 AM - Post#360916    

In last game, Tosan only had 11 points on 4-7 shooting, but had 14 rebounds, 6 assists and 3 blocks. The Motor City Cruise won.
penn nation
Professor
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12-28-23 01:05 PM - Post#360925    

Yeah, I watched some of that one. His D was very impressive. Even more impressive was that the announcers pronounced his name correctly. They also said that when they brought up his name with the Cruise coach, he smiled.
penn nation
Professor
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12-28-23 07:37 PM - Post#360945    

  • jeromelh Said:
Detroit pistons are the worst team in the NBA. Time to give Tosan a look



Then there's this:

https://twitter.com/BFawkes22/status/1740 481445196...

penn nation
Professor
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12-28-23 09:32 PM - Post#360949    

Pistons up by 19 at the half. Celts will have to outscore them by 37 in the second half, otherwise a lot of these bettors will be very happy.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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01-30-24 12:13 PM - Post#362390    

Just a 10-day contract for now, but Tosan is officially in the NBA! Not with the Pistons but the Grizzlies.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/175235 454948095...

  • Quote:
The Grizzlies are signing G League forward Tosan Evbuomwan on a 10-day contract, @georgelangberg of GSL Sports Group tells ESPN. Evbuomwan — undrafted off Princeton’s Sweet 16 team — has averaged 15 points, 8.6 rebounds and 3.9 assists for the Motor City Cruise.



Even if he doesn't stick with the Grizz, it's a great sign that he got promoted after half a season in G-League. So happy for him.
penn nation
Professor
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01-30-24 01:22 PM - Post#362393    

Here's why:

https://twitter.com/hamzamalik7545/status /17523546...
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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01-30-24 02:23 PM - Post#362396    

Gotta be ready when opportunity knocks. Hopefully, he can get some minutes in a blowout. Maybe earn another 10-day.
SRP
Postdoc
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02-02-24 05:44 AM - Post#362538    

Best of luck. One more step forward.
penn nation
Professor
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02-02-24 03:12 PM - Post#362571    

DNP last night in a close contest throughout.
jeromelh
Junior
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02-02-24 04:13 PM - Post#362577    

Not surprising as he just arrived.
whitakk
Masters Student
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02-02-24 09:37 PM - Post#362607    

Tosan in tonight! Three minutes, one foul so far (and apparently drew a charge on Klay)
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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02-02-24 11:56 PM - Post#362636    

I totally missed this! Didn't see the game but he made a corner 3 for his first NBA points.

Found a clip of it:

https://twitter.com/GrizzliesFilm/status/ 175360272...

TigerFan
PhD Student
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02-03-24 12:35 AM - Post#362638    

1/2, 3 points, 1 rebound, 1 assist, 1 foul in 16 minutes.
1LotteryPick1969
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1LotteryPick1969
02-03-24 11:16 AM - Post#362653    

  • gokinsmen Said:
I totally missed this! Didn't see the game but he made a corner 3 for his first NBA points.

Found a clip of it:

https://twitter.com/GrizzliesFilm/status/ 175360272...




A reversal of his college experience: he is the recipient of a dish from a big driving the lane.

Tiger81
Masters Student
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Tiger81
02-04-24 07:36 PM - Post#362775    

After 1Q against the Celtics today: 11 minutes, 8 RBs, 2 assists, 0 points
Tiger81
Masters Student
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Tiger81
02-04-24 07:44 PM - Post#362776    

Correction: 9 RBs, 6 offensive, playing C against Porzingis and Horford
Tiger81
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Tiger81
02-04-24 08:03 PM - Post#362777    

After 2Q: 15 mins, 1-6 FG, 1-2 3FG, 3 points, 10 RBs, 1 assist, 2 PF, -8 in a game where the Celtics are +20, according to NBA.com

They are definitely giving him a long look today, which is the last game in his 10-day contract I believe.
penn nation
Professor
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02-04-24 08:09 PM - Post#362778    

Signed on January 30th, so he has another game or two after this.
penn nation
Professor
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02-04-24 08:28 PM - Post#362779    

Played the first 7 minutes of the 3rd quarter, 2 assists, 1 board, 0 for 1.

For the game, 3 assists, 11 rebounds, 1 for 7 (3 points), 2 fouls in 22 minutes.
penn nation
Professor
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02-04-24 09:14 PM - Post#362782    

6 more minutes during garbage time (well, the whole 4th quarter was extended garbage time). 1 more board and a turnover in a pretty awful 40 point loss. Memphis has double digit players on the injured list right now.


gokinsmen
Postdoc
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02-04-24 10:39 PM - Post#362787    

Great to see him getting real minutes!

12 rebounds, including 7 offensive, in 29 minutes is really impressive. Obviously, 1-6 is rough but only 1 TO on a night where his team made 19 of them.

Next assignment: score in double-digits.
CM
Masters Student
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02-05-24 09:19 AM - Post#362795    

His single coverage defense on Tatum was elite, Celtics announcers even commented on it (although Tatum still scored a lot). Have to believe there's a place in the league for this sort of player.
Tiger69
Postdoc
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02-05-24 10:31 AM - Post#362799    

Maybe even Dingle has a spot on this team!????????
penn nation
Professor
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02-05-24 09:44 PM - Post#362827    

A bit more about the truly ridiculous situation that required them to dig very deep to assemble any kind of team at all right now:

https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/ 175426937...
weinhauers_ghost
Postdoc
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02-06-24 09:18 PM - Post#362852    

Tosan got some early minutes against the Knicks at MSG tonight.


gokinsmen
Postdoc
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02-06-24 11:22 PM - Post#362857    

Didn't put up any noteworthy stats but he was +10 in 21 minutes. He's gonna earn his keep as a glue-guy defender, but it would be nice to see him have a good scoring game before his 10-day contract is up. I think he has 2 more games.
penn nation
Professor
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02-08-24 11:31 PM - Post#362886    

He was pretty much a non factor tonight in somewhat limited minutes against the Bulls. Might have been his swan song.

But credit the NBC Sports Chicago production crew and announcers Adam Amin and Stacey King. Tosan had one highlight, a nice block of Coby White under the basket. That was the excuse to essentially spend the next few minutes detailing his back story, including biographical details about his parents and how they met, and how longtime Bull Luol Deng was ultimately key in bringing Tosan’s profile to the attention of US collegiate programs as part of developing talent for basketball in Africa.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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02-11-24 04:36 PM - Post#363125    

Tosan gets another 10-day... with the Pistons. They developed him on the Cruise, but they have only 2 games in the next 10 days due to the All-Star break.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/175676 726243273...

  • Quote:
The Pistons are signing F Tosan Evbuomwan on a 10-day contract, @georgelangberg of GSL Sports Group tells ESPN. Evbuomwan — a rookie off Princeton’s Sweet 16 team — recently completed a 10-day with Memphis. He’s averaged 15 points for G League’s Motor City Cruise this season.


gokinsmen
Postdoc
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02-22-24 10:25 PM - Post#363793    

Tosan gets a two-way contract from the Pistons!

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/176077 960929602...

  • Quote:
The Detroit Pistons are signing F Tosan Evbuomwan on a two-way contract, agent @georgelangberg of GSL Sports Group tells ESPN. Evbuomwan — an undrafted rookie out of Princeton — has played with Detroit and Memphis this season.



This is a big step forward. All his hard work is paying off.
ToothlessTiger
Senior
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02-23-24 09:37 AM - Post#363796    

What is difference between 10 day and two-way?
LocalTiger
Masters Student
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02-23-24 10:05 AM - Post#363797    

He gets half the NBA minimum--$502,000.
jeromelh
Junior
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02-24-24 06:53 PM - Post#363904    

Pistons sign Tosan to two way contract
TigerFan
PhD Student
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02-26-24 09:12 PM - Post#364017    

Tosan on the floor for the last few minutes of the first quarter against the Knicks makes a really nice defensive stop on a player who then throws an awkward pass that leads to a turnover. Later he scores with a nifty hoop on a drive across the lane. Other times Piston players seem to be ignoring him standing wide open in the corner, almost like they are playing 4 against 5.
TigerFan
PhD Student
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02-26-24 09:16 PM - Post#364018    

Unfortunately, the second team for the Pistons is woeful—crazy shot taking and brutal passing.
penn nation
Professor
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02-26-24 10:18 PM - Post#364022    

In other words, not a heck of a lot different from their first team.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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03-18-24 09:38 PM - Post#365806    

Tosan had his first double-digit scoring game tonight: 11pts on 4-5 FG (two 3s) in 18min.

He's getting better and more confident despite standing in the corner 90% of the time.
penn nation
Professor
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03-18-24 09:41 PM - Post#365810    

Glad he got on the scoresheet at all, hadn't really played much the past month.

I guess getting some garbage buckets when down 30+ in the 4th quarter is better than nothing. You have to start somewhere.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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03-18-24 09:45 PM - Post#365811    

He actually checked in (and made a layup) in the 3rd Quarter when the deficit was only 15. And I don't think you can blame him for the final score.

Lordy, the Pistons are horribly coached. They can't execute a simple drive-and-kick or recognize a "mouse in the house" mismatch. Most of the team refuses to play defense, so there's that too.
penn nation
Professor
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03-18-24 09:55 PM - Post#365813    

He can't be blamed for anything on that team. It's a royal mess.

Most of his scoring came during rather extended garbage time. But at least he got in the game for a while. There have been any number of either DNPs or cameos of late.
CM
Masters Student
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03-19-24 07:16 AM - Post#365825    

What' so interesting to watch is what teams value in G League performances. He wasn't in the top 50 in the G in PPG, there's guys going for 30+ regularly, but as the saying goes 'You cannot score your way out of the G".

High motor role players who know why they're there seem to be valued the most and Tosan ticks all the boxes. Hope he gets a real contract next year.
penn nation
Professor
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03-19-24 08:06 AM - Post#365827    

I've gone to some of the Westchester Knick games over the past couple of seasons. Interesting to see some of the guys who get called up, both for them and the teams they play. In some cases, scoring is definitely a very important criterion.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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03-20-24 07:47 PM - Post#365927    

Tosan making his first start tonight against the Pacers!

It's a shame the UNLV game is on soon. Hope he has a good showing tonight.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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03-20-24 10:18 PM - Post#365987    

11pts (4-7 FG) with 4rebs in his first NBA start.

Finished nicely through contact a couple times. Didn't get to handle the ball, so 0 assists and 0 TOs. Pistons play junk ball and are tanking yet again, but it's still exciting to see a Tiger climbing the NBA ladder so quickly.

Undrafted > G-League > 10-day > two-way > (injury-related) start. All in a year.

With all the Pistons' injuries, he might get another start after tonight.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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03-22-24 07:12 PM - Post#366161    

Tosan starting again today. Due to injuries, he could end up starting most/all of the Pistons' remaining games. Huge opportunity to show something.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nba/pist ons/202...

Seems like Monty Williams is pretty high on Tosan.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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03-22-24 09:22 PM - Post#366177    

14pts/8reb stat line is fine, but the game became garbage time midway through the 2Q, so it doesn't mean much. Best thing was that he missed his first 3 shots from deep... then swished his last two. He's really improving in that area.

Tosan also had to defend Porzingis a ton and wasn't too successful, but that's not really on him - 7-2 jump shooters will do their thing. He did manage to avoid committing unnecessary fouls (that Princeton training).

Baby steps forward. Gotta have a breakout game or two with this opportunity. Doesn't need to be Linsanity, but enough to make an impression going forward.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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04-08-24 02:46 PM - Post#367117    

Tosan played the maximum amount of games allowed by his two-way contract. Sounds like the Pistons liked what they saw - I can see him getting a full contract next season.

https://twitter.com/poundcoyne/status/177 672934179...

  • Quote:
No Tosan Evbuomwan tonight for Detroit vs Brooklyn, as he has reached the limit of playable games under a two-way.

Monty Williams hopes to work with him in the summer, within the program.

“I think he’s got a chance to be a rotation guy in the league”




As awful as the Pistons were, Tosan looked increasingly comfy with each game. He was the glue guy in their year-end starting lineup - making the right pass, guarding multiple positions, shooting efficiently on his minimal touches.

I can see him becoming a Kyle Anderson type, greasing the wheels for a team's stars.
Old Bear
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04-08-24 07:01 PM - Post#367129    

I saw him against the Celtics. He looked an awful lot skinnier. I assume that was on purpose.
gokinsmen
Postdoc
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04-08-24 10:41 PM - Post#367138    

I guess that's part of the transition from PF/C in college to SF/PF in the NBA. He definitely looks more comfortable guarding wings than bigs.



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