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andybech Freshman Posts 83 |
12-11-23 04:21 PM - Post#360503
Game is at 7 PM on ESPN+. I did not realize it, but Jelani Williams is still playing for Howard. Only been in 5 games this year but averaging 30 minutes a game off the bench when he has been healthy. 8.4 points, 5.6 rebounds, 3.8 assists. That is a "coach on the floor" stat line. Hope he is healthy because his last game was 11/28. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21310 |
12-11-23 04:26 PM - Post#360505
Seth Towns is there as well, and is their leading scorer in terms of ppg (was recently cleared to play not so long ago). |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21310 |
12-11-23 04:29 PM - Post#360506
Hope he is healthy because his last game was 11/28. That was the date of their last contest. |
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yoyo Senior Posts 366 |
12-11-23 04:56 PM - Post#360508
How old is Seth Townes now, 40? |
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andybech Freshman Posts 83 |
12-11-23 05:18 PM - Post#360509
Could Jelani have a couple more years of eligibility left if he wanted it? Only his 3rd year and he could get the extra COVID year potentially. Can't imagine he'll take it, but Bo Nix started 60 college football games so a full 5th season is not uncommon. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32906 |
12-11-23 05:20 PM - Post#360510
I believe he has one more year of eligibility. |
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SteveChop PhD Student Posts 1156 |
12-11-23 05:30 PM - Post#360511
I think you are correct. My understanding is that student-athletes whose teams did not play in the COVID year (Jelani did not because he was still at Penn) don't get that "5th" year of eligibility. I think that is why Clark Slajchert only has one year of eligibility left (but must transfer if he gets his degree at Penn in May). |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21310 |
12-11-23 05:49 PM - Post#360512
How old is Seth Townes now, 40? He's 26. Jelani must only be a year or two younger than that by now. |
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OldBig5 Masters Student Posts 639 |
12-11-23 06:55 PM - Post#360515
Game is at 7 PM on ESPN+. I did not realize it, but Jelani Williams is still playing for Howard. Only been in 5 games this year but averaging 30 minutes a game off the bench when he has been healthy. 8.4 points, 5.6 rebounds, 3.8 assists. That is a "coach on the floor" stat line. Hope he is healthy because his last game was 11/28. They have not played since NOv 28 so that might expalin it. Just a five point loss that night to Cincy. Also only lost by three to Georgia Tech. Could be a tough game. |
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OldBig5 Masters Student Posts 639 |
12-11-23 06:56 PM - Post#360516
Looks like it is on ESPN+ so that is a good thing. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21310 |
12-11-23 07:34 PM - Post#360517
How old is Seth Townes now, 40? Also worth noting that none of the current Quakers were on the team when he was still at Harvard on the injured list. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21310 |
12-11-23 08:47 PM - Post#360518
Down 11 with 9 to play, up 3 at the half. Nice comeback. Jelani really dishing it out tonight. Happy for him. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21310 |
12-11-23 09:40 PM - Post#360522
Stop the presses--Spinoso is 8 for 10 from the line tonight. Making a difference. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32906 |
12-11-23 09:43 PM - Post#360523
He is exponentially better when he shoots 80% from the line |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21310 |
12-11-23 09:45 PM - Post#360525
44.1% coming into tonight. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21310 |
12-11-23 09:53 PM - Post#360526
We win and we even cover. Army-Navy for sure will be the featured Bad Beat on SVP tonight. And if you don't know what happened in that football game, worth checking it out. |
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20Penn14 Senior Posts 364 |
12-11-23 10:27 PM - Post#360530
Nice move by Jelani, who stayed on the court for The Red and Blue https://twitter.com/jtannenwald/status/17 343922254... |
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caughtinasnare Senior Posts 362 |
12-11-23 11:13 PM - Post#360538
An unsurprisingly classy move, to say the least. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001 
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12-11-23 11:47 PM - Post#360539
It’s a good thing Spinoso surprised with that FT% and limiting the turnovers, because his post play and post D was pretty poor. |
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Streamers Professor Posts 8340 
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12-12-23 12:40 AM - Post#360541
Well, he is an alumnus so why not? |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1905 |
12-12-23 05:28 AM - Post#360542
Slajchert had a heck of a game. He has really come into his own this season. He seems like he can do anything out there. Today, he was hitting any three that he was able to take a step into. When he is hitting outside shots, he is hard to stop. If he also had a dead-eye step-back, he'd be playing like Trae Young. I'd love to see him dominate the Ivy season. He can be our wildcard against Ivy teams that know most of our sets. This team really does know how to play. Between Slajchert, Brown, Perkins, Smith, Spinoso, and Laz, the ball just moves around. We have enough ball handling to confidently handle the press, and multiple guys can hit an open shot. Watching Jelani doing the red and blue brought a tear to my eye. I hope Penn crowd gave him a great welcome in the pregame introductions. |
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section110 Masters Student Posts 847 |
12-12-23 06:57 AM - Post#360545
We did, a pretty good welcome to a very classy young man. I hope Howard wins it's conference so that he and Seth Towns get to experience the tourney. |
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penn nation Professor Posts 21310 |
12-12-23 10:04 AM - Post#360554
We win and we even cover. Army-Navy for sure will be the featured Bad Beat on SVP tonight. And if you don't know what happened in that football game, worth checking it out. Much to my shock, Army-Navy was a no show, but the silver lining was that Yale-Fairfield MBB was the headliner on the over/under. |
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AsiaSunset Postdoc Posts 4370 |
12-12-23 10:47 AM - Post#360556
I watched on my phone which is not always the best way to see a game. Even so - it seemed this fairly young team did a good job handling pressure and traps thrown at them by a fairly athletic Howard team. This hasn’t always been a Penn strength and it was a pleasant surprise. This team could surprise people when they get to the league round robin. I join others in saluting Jelani, a great Quaker and an even better young man. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32906 |
12-12-23 11:00 AM - Post#360557
I think Howard has an interesting team, but at this stage of their careers, Jelani and Towns are not particularly athletic. George Smith blew by Jelani on one notable occasion and Towns has no first step anymore. Those guys, however, might be Howard's most skilled players. But it was nothing like Kentucky, who just smothered us with all 5 guys. |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1905 |
12-12-23 12:53 PM - Post#360567
Agreed. Howard was athletic, big, and well organized. Williams showed his leadership chops and willingness to do anything to help his team win. This was a good win against a team that is similarly ranked to Penn but clearly dangerous. It was touching to see so much passion from Howard and Towns - to be out there so many years after the other players. The announcers pointed out that most of the players probably knew little about who those two were. Those guys deserve a great season. Williams is a physical and determined guard, but he still didn't appear to be a dead-eye shooter. Towns has the shot, but didn't have the explosiveness that he had in his peak. Both are warriors. It will be interesting to see if Slajchert can take himself to the next level as a senior team leader who can carry and guide the team in tough situations. He is showing that potential in the early season. |
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palestra38 Professor Posts 32906 |
12-12-23 01:06 PM - Post#360568
Do I take it that "Howard (the Player)" is Jelani Williams? |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1905 |
12-12-23 01:19 PM - Post#360569
Yes. Didn't get enough sleep. Edited.
Do I take it that "Howard (the Player)" is Jelani Williams? |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1905 |
12-12-23 01:27 PM - Post#360570
Anyone know what type of NIL players like Williams and Towns might be able to get? These guys are in the 26 year-old range. While I think the college athletics experience is a good enough reason to play the sport, I hope these guys get a bit of money. Actually, anyone know what kind of money our guys or Ivy basketball players generally are getting? Are the Ivies working together (or colluding if you see it that way) to keep balance in this area? Final question, now that my mind is on the business side of sports. Does anyone have any idea whether football and basketball are profit centers or cost centers for Penn athletics? They are probably our only meaningfully revenue generating sports... |
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SteveChop PhD Student Posts 1156 |
12-12-23 02:23 PM - Post#360571
While I don't know the factual answer, I'd be pretty shocked if FB makes money. You have over 100 athletes plus many coaches, and expensive equipment to boot, and play in front of only a few thousand fans each game. Clearly, BB has a lower level of expenses, fewer athletes and coaches and gets some nice checks for the "guarantee" games though they do have more road games where T&E expense occur. With that said, I'd be surprised if BB makes money but it would seem to have a better chance. |
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Chip Bayers Professor Posts 7001
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12-12-23 02:25 PM - Post#360572
Agreed. Howard was athletic, big, and well organized. Williams showed his leadership chops and willingness to do anything to help his team win. This was a good win against a team that is similarly ranked to Penn but clearly dangerous. I thought Howard was anything but well organized. Penn came out a half step slow at everything, as if they were unprepared for their defense’s full court aggression. That’s what led to the early Bison lead. Once Penn finally woke up (which included some early yanks by Steve of Spinoso and Perkins, in particular) and started playing instead of sleepwalking, they shredded Howard’s disorganized D, especially in the second half when they took advantage of HU’s failure to rotate on anything. Howard may end up a dangerous team if they can fix that stuff, but they weren’t last night. Here’s what Kenny Blankeney had to say after the game: "I thought they did everything to test us, physically and mentally, and we did not meet the challenge. They really brought the fight to us tonight, and it knocked us back on our heels and we never physically, mentally accepted their fight.“ "We're not a very good team right now. This is the first time we've had this whole group together, and we haven't had much time to practice together. I think since August, we've had maybe four practices with this group. ..." "... In saying that, the competitiveness, the lack of discipline is something that is really disappointing for me right now." "I couldn't even get a rotation b/c at this point in time, I don't have the confidence to be able to play a lot of our guys right now. Just because guys haven't had the reps and haven't had the chance to practice. We literally have guys who have practiced 2-3 times." And here’s Jelani postgame reinforcing that latter point: "This is a huge stretch for us. I think finally having Dom back and having a couple guys who have been in and out of the lineup, we get a chance to practice together and figure out a rotation.“ Jelani, BTW, was very much the player-coach throughout the game with his teammates. There was a moment early in the first half when the aforementioned Dom Campbell fouled Spinoso on a shot attempt. While the FTs were happening, Williams spent a good 90 seconds in an animated one-on-one sideline conversation with Campbell right next to Blankeney, in which Jelani was clearly giving some pointed intstruction. Blankeney never said a word, let Jelani do all the coaching. It won’t be a surprise if he ends up on Blankeney’s staff or with another team immediately after his eligibility runs out, if that’s what he wants to do. His alma mater, for example. |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1905 |
12-12-23 03:32 PM - Post#360575
I know I've harped on this before, but I can only imagine what Jelani's career could have been like without the injuries. He was just so explosive as a young man. His intangibles would have really been something with that explosive element. That said, even years later, his shot isn't where it needs to be to complete him as a player. |
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Penndemonium PhD Student Posts 1905 |
12-12-23 03:39 PM - Post#360577
Found this. https://meacsports.com/news/2023/3/1/mens-ba sketba... |
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mbaprof Senior Posts 346 |
03-17-24 04:13 PM - Post#365575
Anyone know what happened to Jelani? Hasnt played since Dec, saw him on bench today in street clothes |
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mbaprof Senior Posts 346 |
03-18-24 05:50 PM - Post#365762
broken arm |
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Quakers03 Professor Posts 12533 |
03-18-24 06:08 PM - Post#365771
It took my way too long yesterday on Twitter and article searching just to see them reference an injury but nothing more. Thanks for figuring it out. Guess he’s out for the game. What a shame. |
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mbaprof Senior Posts 346 |
03-19-24 04:26 PM - Post#365869
Got it from a current Penn player who is friendly with him Looks like Jelani might be eligible for another year based upon appearing in only 9 of 34 games. He can join Seth Townes in a phd program! |
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weinhauers_ghost Postdoc Posts 2144 |
03-19-24 08:29 PM - Post#365890
It would be great to see those two guys earn their doctorates. |
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