Stuart Suss
PhD Student
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Reg: 11-21-04
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11-13-20 11:14 AM - Post#316658
In response to rbg
From the preliminary research and inquiries I have made:
1. There are FAQs that are supposed to be attached to the official Ivy League news release. Those FAQs are not accessible (at least not accessible to me).
2. FAQs personalized to Yale are accessible.
3. Yale is adhering to its 8 semester rule with regard to a 5th year of undergraduate eligibility. ("Because Yale undergraduates must complete their degree within eight terms, you must take either one or two leaves of absence in order to extend your eight terms of enrollment, should you wish to use your missed season of eligibility at Yale.")
4. The Brown Daily Herald story states, "Brown’s rule that only undergraduate students can participate in athletics still stands."
5. Some schools in the league do not have an 8 semester limitation, and would not require a leave of absence in order to qualify for a 5th year of undergraduate eligibility.
6. However, it would seem foolish for any athlete to pay tuition (in whole or in part) for a 5th undergraduate year and then pay tuition for a first graduate year (if that is the athlete's educational goal), when two year's of tuition could be saved (the 5th undergraduate year and the first graduate year) by completing undergraduate studies at the Ivy school within 4 years and obtaining a scholarship for a graduate transfer year at a non-Ivy school.
7. The language in the Ivy news release regarding competition "as a graduate student elsewhere," appears to be nothing more than the Ivy presidents' customary attitude toward athletes that they can accept the decisions or transfer "elsewhere."
I see this decision as one additional piece of evidence of of the hostility of the Ivy presidents toward both athletes and intercollegiate athletics. Donors force the Ivy presidents to feign concern about both.
The Ivy presidents announced their decision regarding winter sports on November 12, based upon the medical circumstances as of that date. The medical circumstances as of November 12 were unpredictable on October 12 and will likely change as of December 12 and as of January 12. I note that final decisions regarding in-person attendance by students have not yet been made.
Putting aside for the moment alternative ideas such as competition in bubbles, all the Ivy presidents need to have said was, "As of November 12, it is imprudent to start winter sports activities. We will reconsider the status of winter sports again on December 12 and, if necessary, on January 12."
Instead, as noted by Paul Atkinson, while leaving the athletes and their coaches in the dark, the presidents made an apparently irrevocable decision which allows them to be done with athletics.
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