hoopsfan
Masters Student
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Reg: 12-26-04
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03-30-16 12:31 PM - Post#205525
In response to RHunter3
Carlin would be a great choice but (at least until our opening) if he were able to go somewhere this year it would have been James Madison or Tulane where he has deep connections. His problem is that Rice has not won enough yet for him to be marketable in this cycle of openings.
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Dr. V
PhD Student
Posts: 1536
Reg: 11-21-04
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03-30-16 01:12 PM - Post#205526
In response to hoopsfan
Kyle is walking into a challenging situation, but my guess is that his decision is dictated as much by family considerations as anything else. He and his wife have 3 very young sons. Both her family and his father are on the West Coast, so I presume that the attraction of being closer to family is significant.
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Dr. V
PhD Student
Posts: 1536
Reg: 11-21-04
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03-30-16 01:18 PM - Post#205529
In response to Dr. V
Regarding next year, the big question mark is where will we get the three point shooting that Maodo, Grant and Rosie provided?
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RHunter3
Junior
Posts: 281
Reg: 12-02-14
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03-30-16 01:18 PM - Post#205530
In response to Dr. V
I just read that there is mutual interest between Bruce Weber and CU. Interesting prospect.
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pennhoops
Postdoc
Posts: 2470
Reg: 11-21-04
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03-30-16 01:21 PM - Post#205531
In response to RHunter3
From a disinterested party, I'd say if Jim Engels shows the slightest interest I'd take him in a heartbeat.
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skiba34
Masters Student
Posts: 952
Reg: 03-11-06
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03-30-16 01:28 PM - Post#205532
In response to RHunter3
I'm hearing the NJIT coach is high on the list as well as the current associate head coach.
Coach Jim Engles of NJIT is an excellent coach based on my own personally and professional experiences of knowing him. Engles is definitely knowledgeable about all the ins and outs associated in dealing with IVY league schools. He is also, in my opinion, a very player friendly coach and would do well with Columbia's current pool of talent. Without knowing all the other candidates as HC, I couldn't say if Engles should be top choice, but I will definitely endorse Coach Engles as a good one.
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palestra38
Professor
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Reg: 11-21-04
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03-30-16 01:38 PM - Post#205533
In response to skiba34
He took a program that was perhaps the worst situation in the country, with no league, virtually winless record and horrible facilites in a depressing location and made it a consistent winner. Frankly, I think he could make a bigger jump than Columbia, but if CU can get him, that would be an excellent choice.
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mrjames
Professor
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Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
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03-30-16 01:39 PM - Post#205534
In response to skiba34
I cannot wait until we get to see how serious Columbia is about putting chips on the table here. Huge data point that will be exciting to see.
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Chet Forte
Postdoc
Posts: 2958
Reg: 03-02-08
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03-30-16 01:45 PM - Post#205535
In response to mrjames
I suspect that there will be a lot of interest in this job. The turnout last night was fantastic. This team has some excellent talent and a few really good looking recruits. The new AD is a closer.
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internetter
Postdoc
Posts: 3399
Loc: Los Angeles
Reg: 11-21-04
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03-30-16 02:47 PM - Post#205540
In response to RHunter3
Check out @IvyHoopsOnline's Tweet: https://twitter.com/IvyHoopsOnline/status /71523823...
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Chet Forte
Postdoc
Posts: 2958
Reg: 03-02-08
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03-30-16 03:44 PM - Post#205542
In response to internetter
I actually found this article to have the unintended result of being a real downer. The conclusion left me pretty cold.
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Columbia 37P6
Postdoc
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Reg: 02-14-06
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03-30-16 04:04 PM - Post#205545
In response to Chet Forte
Our new head basketball coach must be at least two things: (1) A great recruiter; and (2) A great game coach. I do agree with Chet that there will be many persons interested in the Columbia position. Derrick Phelps, Carlin Hartman and Jim Engles are three of the obvious early possibilities but there are numerous outstanding college assistant coaches with connections to New York City who would jump at the chance to return to New York. Also, keep in mind, that our Head Football Coach, Al Bagnoli and his staff have already successfully created and implemented a recruiting platform that is second to none in the Ivy League and can be used by both of our Men and Women's Basketball Coaches to attract the best and brightest to Morningside Heights.
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mrjames
Professor
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Loc: Montclair, NJ
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03-30-16 04:17 PM - Post#205546
In response to Columbia 37P6
I wouldn't weight those two equally. This is a Jims and Joes league, folks. You can win with great players and mediocre players, but you can no longer win in this league with mediocre players and great coaching.
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RHunter3
Junior
Posts: 281
Reg: 12-02-14
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03-30-16 04:18 PM - Post#205547
In response to Columbia 37P6
Don't forget that Bruce Weber has been linked to the opening as well.
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bradley
PhD Student
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Age: 74
Reg: 01-15-16
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03-30-16 05:07 PM - Post#205548
In response to mrjames
I cannot wait until we get to see how serious Columbia is about putting chips on the table here. Huge data point that will be exciting to see.
Losing a good coach like Coach Smith to SF says something about the Ivy League. I realize that personal and geographical considerations come into play but it appears that the Ivy League is still a stepping stone for good young coaches. I would not be the least bit surprised if Coach Henderson leaves Princeton next year after taking a run with his group of seniors. Next year, he may be in his best marketing position as Coach Smith was this year with his group of seniors.
Until the Ivy League colleges start to pay head coaches and assistants like they want to be a better conference than 15 out of 32, it will remain a one NCAA tournament bid league with a rare exception. Unlike football, it is a sport that the Ivy League could make a much stronger commitment without costing an enormous amount of money. I doubt that it will happen.
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randal7
Freshman
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Age: 36
Reg: 12-31-13
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03-30-16 05:29 PM - Post#205549
In response to bradley
I'm going to let you all in on a little secret... the players don't like Smith. Him going may actually help unify this team and, if the right guy is hired, this team can potentially reach new heights.
Smith is a great evaluator of talent and a pretty good recruiter. Not a good game day coach. And we've all seen that first hand.
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Dr. V
PhD Student
Posts: 1536
Reg: 11-21-04
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03-30-16 05:43 PM - Post#205550
In response to randal7
And you know what you allege in your first paragraph on the basis of what?
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randal7
Freshman
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Age: 36
Reg: 12-31-13
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03-30-16 06:05 PM - Post#205551
In response to Dr. V
Not sure how you'd like me to answer this question. Because I know? Theres alot I'm not divulging, this is high-level stuff.
How about this -- anybody care to contradict me? Better yet, perhaps someone else who also is well aware of this truth can just say, "YEP. That's correct".
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RHunter3
Junior
Posts: 281
Reg: 12-02-14
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03-30-16 07:01 PM - Post#205553
In response to randal7
I've got 1st hand knowledge and I haven't heard this.
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umbrellaman
Masters Student
Posts: 469
Reg: 11-21-04
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03-30-16 07:03 PM - Post#205554
In response to randal7
Meh - if the coach is good, they don't have to love him. If the coach is doing a good job, they don't love him or her, until years later.
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