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Username Post: Around the Patriot League 2019-20        (Topic#23164)
res 
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04-14-20 11:21 AM - Post#306223    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:
Many on the HC board are always excited about any player who commits, so I would take that with a grain of salt.



Yes, they start the season with unreasonable expectations, they then castigate the coach, athletic director, "TPTB" and the players when those expectations are not met. At the end of the season they call for the heads of everyone.

Then the recruits begin to trickle in and it all begins again. Rinse and repeat.

Obviously, I generalize as most of the posters are sane. I also congratulate them on their fanatical devotion to the program. But mark my words, when the crossports poll on the number of wins comes out before next season, the median response is going to be 15-17 or greater.


 
bisonmania 
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04-14-20 12:04 PM - Post#306224    
    In response to Bison137

Holy Cross will definitely not have a very balanced roster with all those freshman. A few years ago they had 4 or 5 freshman. I guess they could not find a transfer that suited the new system?? One thing with the new coach he seems committed to getting his style of players on the team or a talent upgrade!

 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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04-14-20 02:16 PM - Post#306229    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

Ivanauskas is transferring to Cincinnati and Chuck Champion to Albany.

 
MrPhillie 
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04-14-20 03:11 PM - Post#306231    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

Gonna be honest, I wasn’t that impressed with Ivanauskas last season. For my money, Mahoney was a far better player. Ivanauskas seemed to regress some from the previous year. But I obviously did not see a ton of games.

 
Bison137 
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04-14-20 05:08 PM - Post#306234    
    In response to MrPhillie

  • MrPhillie Said:
Gonna be honest, I wasn’t that impressed with Ivanauskas last season. For my money, Mahoney was a far better player. Ivanauskas seemed to regress some from the previous year. But I obviously did not see a ton of games.




Yes, he definitely regressed. Went from PL POY in 2018-19 to 2nd team in 2019-20. The main factor was that he lost his ability to shoot. Here are his shooting comparables for the past two seasons, with the most recent season first:

2-pt FG Pct. 2020 - .486, 2019 -.537
3-pt FG Pct. 2020 - .265 (31-117), 2019 - .433 (42-97)
FT Pct. 2020 - .606, 2019 - .768
True Shooting Pct. * 2020 - .478, 2019 - .598

* Weights 2-point and 3-point shooting, plus fouls drawn and FT's made

I watched a fair number of his games, and a lot of his three point attempts weren't even close. Maybe some problem with his form. Btw, his rebound and block rates were almost identical both years.




 
MrPhillie 
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04-15-20 12:10 AM - Post#306242    
    In response to Bison137

That is some poor shooting. His 2nd Team nod must’ve been in part due to returning POY.

 
Bison137 
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04-15-20 01:04 PM - Post#306256    
    In response to MrPhillie

  • MrPhillie Said:
That is some poor shooting. His 2nd Team nod must’ve been in part due to returning POY.




Yes, reputation helps. Also he was 3rd in the PL in rebounding, which also helped.




 
HoleinOne 
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04-15-20 04:54 PM - Post#306261    
    In response to Bison137

Rabinowich and Martindale should be solid players but HC really has struggled the past few years filling out their lineup. Used to go to 5+ games a year at Hart Center and even with the recent retrofit, wonder how this high school sized arena affects recruiting.

 
Bison137 
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04-15-20 05:47 PM - Post#306264    
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  • Bison137 Said:
Holy Cross has perhaps set a PL record for roster turnover in less than 12 months. For those who haven't kept track, here are the changes:

LEFT:

- Drew Lowder, a very good freshman PG, left the team in early January and is transferring.
- Marlon Hargis, 6-7 soph PF who stared a number of games this year, is transferring.
- Blake Verbeek, a thin 6-10 sophomore center who started early in the year but then saw his minutes drop, transferring.
- Ciaran Sandy, a 6-7 freshman forward (possibly a walk-on) transferred to a Juco.
- Chris Lovisolo, a 6-10 soph walk-on, left the team in November and transferred to Union.
- Lincoln Yuetter, a soph walk-on CG, is transferring.
- Clayton Le Sann, a 6-4 scholarship SG who played 20 mpg in the PL season (partly due to HC having almost no bench), is graduating.
- Jacob Grandison, a 6-6 forward who started his first two years, transferred to Illinois last summer.
- Caleb Green, a 5-10 PG who started his first two years, transferred to Fairfield last summer.


So that is six or seven scholarship players who have left since last July. Plus HC wasn't at the full allotment of scholarships even before then. Thus HC added three scholarship players in the fall and has added four more this spring.






HC had another player enter the transfer portal yesterday - Connor Niego, a 6-8 212 lb PF, who started 28 games. Averaged 34 mpg in PL play, as the HC bench had shrunk. Has two years of eligibility left since he missed most of the 2018-19 season with an injury. However he may need an NCAA waiver in order to play two years at a new school. He was a fairly average PL player, with a mediocre rate of defensive rebounds but a better rate at the offensive boards. Shot a goodly number of threes and hit 34% of them.

Niego is the 6th HC scholarship player to transfer since July, and the 4th since January. Someone mentioned the large recruiting class Carmody had a few years ago. It consisted of Grandison, Green, Niego, Butler, Faw, and Copeland. With Copeland having played only a handful of games this year and his future in question, this class - which was a good one when intact, will likely end up with only two of the original six (Butler and Faw).




 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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04-22-20 03:05 PM - Post#306494    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

Joe Pridgen is transferring from Holy Cross. It feels like the Patriot League is losing a lot of talent.

 
Bison137 
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Around the Patriot League 2019-20
04-22-20 03:41 PM - Post#306497    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

HC apparently will now be returning three scholarship players from last year: Austin Butler, Matt Faw, and Ryan Wade. The two freshman who have entered the transfer portal were their two top scorers. Pridgen averaged 17.4 ppg and Drew Lowder averaged 14.1 ppg




 
Bison89 
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04-23-20 09:57 AM - Post#306541    
    In response to Bison137

Wow, that hurts. I wonder if they opted to transfer or if their coach encouraged them to transfer.
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
Scotty-14 
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04-24-20 01:30 AM - Post#306587    
    In response to Bison89

Props to Austin Butler for sticking it out in Worcester

 
MrPhillie 
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04-24-20 11:04 AM - Post#306598    
    In response to Scotty-14

Yeah, he seems like a good guy...well at least from the halftime profile on him during a game last season. Can’t be a ton of fun there at the moment.

 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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04-26-20 04:10 PM - Post#306658    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:
Lehigh's James Karnik enters the transfer portal. If he ends up leaving, that is a big loss for LU. My way-early All-PL team would have had him on the 2nd team for 2020-21. Might well have made 3rd team this year, had he not missed 10 PL games with an injury.

LU will still be strong at center with the return of rising junior 6-11 Nic Lynch, but they had been starting both of them down the stretch, to good effect. Karnik is clearly the better of the two.



Karnik to Boston College


 
Bison54 
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04-26-20 08:24 PM - Post#306664    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

Looks like the Patriot League is becoming a Jr. College league for the better players


 
Bison137 
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04-27-20 08:06 PM - Post#306708    
    In response to Bison54

This year has set the record for PL transfers. Here is a current list - showing the school, player, new destination (if known), and whether the player moved up/down/laterally etc.


SCHOOL . Year . NAME . Ht. Pos . W/O? New School . Up/Down

American 2020 . Bradley Nalley 6-6 SF NA ?
American 2020 . Jack Sorenson 6-1 PG Augsburg University -
American 2020 . Jacob Boonyasith 6-3 SG UMBC =
American 2020 . Kelton Samore 6-9 PF Seattle Pacific -
American 2020 . Mark Gasperini 6-10 PF Massachusetts - 5th year +
Bucknell 2020 . Jimmy Sotos 6-3 PG Ohio State ++
Bucknell 2020 . Kahliel Spear 6-7 SF NA ?
Colgate 2020 . Rapolas Ivanauskas 6-10 PF Cincinnati - 5th year ++
Holy Cross 2020 . Blake Verbeek 6-10 PF NA ?
Holy Cross 2020 . Chris Lovisolo 6-9 PF Walk on Union College -
Holy Cross 2020 . Ciaran Sandy 6-7 SF Walk on? Miami Dade College J
Holy Cross 2020 . Connor Niego 6-8 SF NA ?
Holy Cross 2020 . Drew Lowder 6-1 PG NA ?
Holy Cross 2020 . Joe Pridgen 6-5 SF NA ?
Holy Cross 2020 . Lincoln Yeutter 6-2 PG Walk on NA ?
Holy Cross 2020 . Marlon Hargis 6-7 SF St. Francis (PA) =
Lafayette 2020 . Isaac Suffren 6-4 SG Howard =
Lehigh 2020 . James Karnik 6-9 C Boston College ++
Loyola (MD) 2020 . Chuck Champion 6-4 PG Albany - 5th year
=
The final entry for each player shows the quality of the player's new destination:

"++" = P6 conference
"+" = Other high major
"=" = Other D1 conference
"J" = JUCO
"E" = Player left to play in Europe
"?" = Destination not known


There are 19 transfers on the list. Sixteen are scholarship players and three are walk-ons. Three of the 16 will be in their 5th year of competition next year.




 
MrPhillie 
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04-28-20 01:28 PM - Post#306746    
    In response to Bison137

Odd that Lowder hasn’t made a choice...given that he decided to transfer mid-season.

 
Bison137 
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Around the Patriot League 2019-20
04-28-20 01:33 PM - Post#306750    
    In response to MrPhillie

  • MrPhillie Said:
Odd that Lowder hasn’t made a choice...given that he decided to transfer mid-season.




Yes it has been a while. I think he itreated things as if he were a regular spring transfer. He continued to attend classes at holy Cross for second semester and apparently was in no hurry to find a new landing spot.

There was mutual interest between him and Central Michigan just prior to the virus outbreak. And I believe some other MAC schools also had shown interest. Memphis also had been mentioned and a few that I have forgotten.




 
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