Untitled Document
American Army Bucknell Colgate Holy Cross Lafayette Lehigh Navy



 Page 10 of 13 « First<10111213
Username Post: Around the Patriot League 2019-20        (Topic#23164)
bison63 
Postdoc
Posts: 3598

Reg: 01-23-06
01-22-20 10:46 PM - Post#297229    
    In response to nh2032

At what point do we stop calling Navy an underdog?

 
nh2032 
Freshman
Posts: 93

Reg: 02-28-06
01-23-20 06:38 AM - Post#297233    
    In response to bison63

When they aren't getting 5.5 pts from the bookmakers? I was going with the very literal definition of underdog there. But fully agree Vegas and crew will start to catch-up with how they are actually playing of late.

Obviously a lot can change but other than @Colgate and @American my guess is they would be favorites in their remaining games right now. For what it's worth Kenpom projections still have them slight dogs away to Army, Loyola and Lafayette too.


 
res 
Masters Student
Posts: 783

Reg: 03-21-06
01-23-20 12:11 PM - Post#297240    
    In response to bison63

  • bison63 Said:
At what point do we stop calling Navy an underdog?


When they play a team they're favored to beat.

They were a legitimate dog last night, playing a better team, statistically speaking, and playing on the road. If the same two teams played again tonight in Boston, the opening line would be Navy +5.


 
nh2032 
Freshman
Posts: 93

Reg: 02-28-06
01-25-20 03:37 PM - Post#297377    
    In response to res

Andrew Funk's brother and Matt Wilson really taking it to Navy in the 1st half of potentially their last trip ever to Alumni Hall. Nice showcase for the PL.

 
Old Bison 
Masters Student
Posts: 576

Age: 61
Reg: 07-09-17
01-29-20 09:47 PM - Post#297776    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

LU over CU At Cotterel

 
jkrun80 
Postdoc
Posts: 2937

Age: 61
Reg: 05-07-12
01-29-20 09:47 PM - Post#297777    
    In response to nh2032

Lafayette beats Colgate in Hamilton to get the season sweep. They've struggled against other teams but seem to have Colgate's number.

 
Old Bison 
Masters Student
Posts: 576

Age: 61
Reg: 07-09-17
01-29-20 09:48 PM - Post#297778    
    In response to Old Bison

LC rather

 
Bison137 
Professor
Posts: 14848
Bison137
Reg: 01-23-06
01-29-20 10:38 PM - Post#297784    
    In response to jkrun80

  • jkrun80 Said:
Lafayette beats Colgate in Hamilton to get the season sweep. They've struggled against other teams but seem to have Colgate's number.




Colgate's possible achilles heel, i.e. a lack of depth, may have reared its head. They basically have a seven-man rotation under normal circumstances, but tonight they were missing starting SG Nelly Cummings and key sub PF/C Keegan Records. Records has strep throat, and I think I saw Cummings in a boot on the bench but I'm not positive.

Btw, Colgate - coming off a title last year and leading the league by 3 games prior to tonight - had an official attendance of 930. And it didn't look that big.




 
Bison54 
PhD Student
Posts: 1534
Bison54
Reg: 11-18-09
01-29-20 11:50 PM - Post#297791    
    In response to Bison137

What about all those fans on the other side of the court under the camera?? Really!


 
NavyVoice 
Freshman
Posts: 38

Age: 50
Reg: 02-12-18
01-30-20 09:16 AM - Post#297796    
    In response to Bison54

Goes along with this year in college hoops overall, nothing makes sense! This league this year, if it were on a neutral court would be the whackiest tournament ever. #7 could end up in the final, there just isnt much that separates these teams.

Navy played a guy who played nine minutes all year and he dominated the last nine minutes of the first half defensively and scored nine points in 19 minutes and had four steals.

Tommy Funk and Matt Wilson showing great senior leadership at Army..

On to the second half...

 
Steve 
Freshman
Posts: 47

Age: 61
Reg: 08-12-09
01-30-20 12:12 PM - Post#297818    
    In response to Bison137

Lafayette is just a brutal matchup for Colgate. Credit to the Leopards. IMHO, they're the PL team best suited to hang with 'Gate given their 3-point success (29th in nation in percentage and tied for 33rd in makes).

Losing Cummings and Records last night didn't help, though (hope those two are healthy ASAP), and Gate is probably winning a shootout with those two on the floor.

It also didn't help that Lafayette had a hot shooting night and the Raiders had a lid on the basket near the end.

Of course, I think other PL teams are solid too. For example, I think Army is regressing to its mean after a tough start. I watched them play Colgate, and that game was pretty evenly matched.

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if any of the top 7 won the tournament.

As I said in the beginning of the year, I think Gate is the best team but that it's about a coin flip as to whether they are the PL's NCAA tournament representative. As some of you have said, the gap between No. 1 and the field is not that vast.

Love this Colgate team, but this is going to be a fight to the finish.

Bison137: Attendance is what it is. One of my favorite memories as a student was the 08 semi v. Bucknell, never replicated again during my time there. Great atmosphere.

But the norm there is awkward silence, sneakers squeaking and coaches yelling at players taking up much of the noise. And inflated box score attendance numbers, at least during my time.

 
nh2032 
Freshman
Posts: 93

Reg: 02-28-06
01-30-20 12:41 PM - Post#297825    
    In response to Steve

Steve - was also at that '08 game and agree on the atmosphere. It was packed with a good Bucknell turnout and great 2nd half comeback before the Bison fell short. That was the game after the John Griffin miracle shot against Navy (sorry Navy voice).

Also agree with your assessment on Gate's tournament chances this year. Clear favorite but with any sort of disruption to your rotation there could be trouble with a number of teams. Lucky to have HC and Leigh up next while you try to get guys healthy again.

 
bisonmania 
Masters Student
Posts: 835

Reg: 10-26-07
02-01-20 07:33 PM - Post#298248    
    In response to nh2032

The fab freshman is playing tonight for Loyola and playing pretty well. He has 11 points coming off the bench so far.

 
jkrun80 
Postdoc
Posts: 2937

Age: 61
Reg: 05-07-12
02-01-20 10:01 PM - Post#298315    
    In response to bisonmania

Loyola blew a double digit lead, but held on to win over Navy.

 
nh2032 
Freshman
Posts: 93

Reg: 02-28-06
02-01-20 10:43 PM - Post#298322    
    In response to jkrun80

Who is going to bet against Tommy Funk at this point? 33 pts and 7 3s to dispatch an admittedly disappointing Lehigh team still without Karnik.

 
Bison137 
Professor
Posts: 14848
Bison137
Reg: 01-23-06
02-02-20 03:53 PM - Post#298417    
    In response to nh2032

Article - and video - on Aldama's debut. With him added to the lineup and CAm Spencer expected back shortly, Loyola could be a dangerous team in the tournament.

https://pressboxonline.com/2020/02/02/santi-alda ma...




 
NavyVoice 
Freshman
Posts: 38

Age: 50
Reg: 02-12-18
02-03-20 07:15 AM - Post#298444    
    In response to Bison137

If Spencer gets back, they become deeper. You can still score on them, but, you must outscore them because they will be better balanced team with Aldama out there.

Huge coup for Loyola, NBA people really high on him, his 9-game sprint to the finish will help Loyola rise up here down the stretch.

 
nh2032 
Freshman
Posts: 93

Reg: 02-28-06
02-05-20 09:58 PM - Post#298670    
    In response to NavyVoice

Road teams go 4 for 4 on the night.

Army's big winning streak comes to an end as Funk and Wilson got basically no help and ended up accounting for over 70% of the teams scoring.

I watched the majority of the Navy-AU 2nd half. Looked like Navy had it in hand as they held AU scoreless for a 6 min stretch, but eventually were shot out of their zone and went downhill from there.

It's well documented by this point our Bison specific issues with this year but you have to admit it's one of the more intriguing seasons in a long time.



 
jkrun80 
Postdoc
Posts: 2937

Age: 61
Reg: 05-07-12
02-06-20 09:57 AM - Post#298681    
    In response to nh2032

It seems Colgate and Boston are clearly the two best teams, Lehigh and HC the two worst. There's not much separating the six in the middle. The next 5 games are critical for the Bison, especially the next 2 @Loyola and @Navy.

 
nh2032 
Freshman
Posts: 93

Reg: 02-28-06
Around the Patriot League 2019-20
02-08-20 07:10 PM - Post#299075    
    In response to jkrun80

Just like Wednesday Navy was in a game down the stretch and then went scoreless for an extended period. Made a spurt over the last couple minutes to make Colgate nervous, but tough week for them.

Boston pulls out a closer than expected game at home to HC and Lafayette loses at home to Lehigh as Colgate and BU take a steady hold onto the top 2 seeds. Should be a fun matchup Monday night.

Edited by nh2032 on 02-08-20 07:10 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
 Page 10 of 13 « First<10111213
Icon Legend Permissions Topic Options
Report Post

Quote Post

Quick Reply

Print Topic

Email Topic

21117 Views



Copyright © 2004-2012 Basketball U. Terms of Use for our Site and Privacy Policy are applicable to you. All rights reserved.
Basketball U. and its subsidiaries are not affiliated in any way with any NCAA athletic conference or member institution.
FusionBB™ Version 2.1 | ©2003-2007 InteractivePHP, Inc.
Execution time: 0.104 seconds.   Total Queries: 16   Zlib Compression is on.
All times are (GMT -0500) Eastern. Current time is 11:09 AM
Top