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BisonRoadWarrior 
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12-08-19 01:48 PM - Post#294116    
    In response to Bison89

KenPom through Dec 7
119. Colgate
184. Loyola
185. Lafayette
211. Bucknell
216. American
238. Boston University (BU)
249. Lehigh
276. Army
277. Navy
323. Holy Cross

 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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12-08-19 07:12 PM - Post#294134    
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Colgate lost at Greg Paulus led Niagara today. Not the greatest of losses.

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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12-08-19 07:15 PM - Post#294135    
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Colgate stumbled today, losing in OT at Niagara, which entered the game 1-5 and is #320 per KenPom.

 
res 
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12-08-19 09:51 PM - Post#294143    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

That's only because Calvin Murphy scored 46 in his 50th anniversary game.


 
Old Bison 
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12-09-19 09:27 AM - Post#294154    
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I remember going out every week to buy the “TV Guide” to see what games were going to be televised. South Carolina and the ACC was just staring to emerge (Johnny Roche, Kevin Joyce, George Karl & UNC, David Thompson, John Lucas-Len Elmore & the Terps). But the greatest joy was if I saw that Niagara/LSU/Purdue or UoMiss was gonna be on. Only thing comparable were the ND teams of Austin Carr & Dantley and Ducky Williams. Now I can’t even watch the NBA. Guess that’s the magic of being a kid

 
Old Bison 
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12-09-19 09:29 AM - Post#294157    
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Now you know why I’m the OLD Bison

 
DoCtoR62 
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12-09-19 11:54 AM - Post#294167    
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  • Old Bison Said:
I remember going out every week to buy the “TV Guide” to see what games were going to be televised. South Carolina and the ACC was just staring to emerge (Johnny Roche, Kevin Joyce, George Karl & UNC, David Thompson, John Lucas-Len Elmore & the Terps). But the greatest joy was if I saw that Niagara/LSU/Purdue or UoMiss was gonna be on. Only thing comparable were the ND teams of Austin Carr & Dantley and Ducky Williams. Now I can’t even watch the NBA. Guess that’s the magic of being a kid



ECAC game of the week w/ Don Criqui calling the play-by-play. I'd include Providence w/ Ernie D ans St. Bonaventure into the fun to watch. And, the Jefferson-Pilot ACC Game of the Week featuring Jim Thacker, Bones McKinney and Billy Packer. It's not all bad being old.


 
res 
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12-09-19 05:26 PM - Post#294238    
    In response to DoCtoR62

I'm not saying Don Criqui didn't call some ECAC games, but the team I remember was Marv Albert and Bucky Waters.


 
DoCtoR62 
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12-09-19 05:37 PM - Post#294241    
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The games I'm talking about would have pre-dated that pairing. Bucky Waters coached at Duke until '73 or '74. I do remember that pairing on games though.

 
Old Bison 
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12-09-19 06:14 PM - Post#294250    
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Doc and res....I’m thinking cremation...you guys going in the box?

 
res 
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12-09-19 06:20 PM - Post#294251    
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I'm leaning towards the ashes, but I suspect the wife will stick me in the box regardless of my wishes.


 
res 
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12-09-19 06:25 PM - Post#294253    
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btw, one of my older brothers was a close friend of Criqui's older brother. We lived a couple of blocks down the street in those days. Not sure what Don's exit plan is, OC.


 
Bison137 
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12-09-19 06:44 PM - Post#294254    
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I liked Criqui for basketball, but hated his Notre Dame football calls. About as objective as Birdsong, except to a huge national audience. He sounded like he was about to cry when things went bad for his beloved Irish.




 
DoCtoR62 
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12-10-19 09:47 AM - Post#294274    
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  • res Said:
I'm leaning towards the ashes, but I suspect the wife will stick me in the box regardless of my wishes.



I'll save the pallbearers and go the ashes route. Perhaps suggest to my wife that she hold them until a Bison loss so that the stronger winds can carry them further.

 
Bison89 
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12-10-19 11:04 AM - Post#294291    
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  • DoCtoR62 Said:
  • res Said:
I'm leaning towards the ashes, but I suspect the wife will stick me in the box regardless of my wishes.



I'll save the pallbearers and go the ashes route. Perhaps suggest to my wife that she hold them until a Bison loss so that the stronger winds can carry them further.



This is such a WONDERFUL topic for a basketball board.

What's next? Severe illness treatment?
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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12-10-19 09:34 PM - Post#294386    
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Holy Cross is losing to Massachusetts-Boston midway through the second half. When is the last time a Patriot League school lost to a non D-1 opponent?

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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12-10-19 10:11 PM - Post#294393    
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D3 UMass - Boston wins in OT.

 
Bison137 
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Around the Patriot League 2019-20
12-10-19 10:12 PM - Post#294394    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Holy Cross is losing to Massachusetts-Boston midway through the second half. When is the last time a Patriot League school lost to a non D-1 opponent?




Unbelievably HC loses at home to a mediocre D3 UMass-Boston team, a team ranked #114 of D3's and a team that lost to UMass-Lowell by an 88-45 score. Their starting lineup averages slightly less than 6-0 per man. Center is 6-4 and PF is 6-2. HC was outscored 52-33 over the last part of the game.

As for the last PL loss to a D2/D3 team, HC lost in December of 2003 to a Dave Paulsen Williams team. The difference was that that Williams team was the defending national champs and ended up ranked #2 in the nation among D3's.

One item to note is that HC was missing one of their two top players, freshman Drew Lowder, due to a hip injury, plus a couple other players were unavailable. Still, that is a team that even a bad D1 team should easily beat.




 
Bison137 
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Re: Around the Patriot League 2019-20
12-10-19 10:32 PM - Post#294399    
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  • Bison137 Said:
  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Holy Cross is losing to Massachusetts-Boston midway through the second half. When is the last time a Patriot League school lost to a non D-1 opponent?





As for the last PL loss to a D2/D3 team, HC lost in December of 2003 to a Dave Paulsen Williams team. The difference was that that Williams team was the defending national champs and ended up ranked #2 in the nation among D3's.





I found one PL loss to a D3 team that is more recent than the HC loss to Williams. Billy Lange's Navy squad lost by six points to Gettysburg in 2005. Fwiw, Gettysburg was a much better team than UMass-Boston. Lange's current St. Joes team, btw, is ranked #261 in the nation. Recently they lost to Temple by 47 points, to Lafayette by 23 points, and to St. Francis by 16 points.




 
Bison137 
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Around the Patriot League 2019-20
12-10-19 11:38 PM - Post#294417    
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The delusional HC87 is now blaming the PL for tonight's HC loss, although some would assume about a dozen beers might be affecting his reasoning powers.




 
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