Bison137
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01-01-20 02:46 PM - Post#295730
In response to Bison137
Note on the previous post. Only one of those six unsuccessful OOC seasons had a tough strength of schedule. The Pomeroy SOS rankings looked like this (with estimates for non-D1 games) for the six seasons listed:
1. 250 (e)
2. 178
3. 152
4. 284
5. 99
6. 175 (e)
This year's OOC ranking was 78, in other words a lot tougher than in the other bad years in the past.
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MrPhillie
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01-01-20 04:42 PM - Post#295733
In response to Bison137
(To clarify from my last post, I’m not holding “truckers.â€)
Yeah I get there have been worse starts, I guess my feelings concerning this season are not simply based on W/L or rankings. There just have been other reasons that kept me more highly interested, whether it was particular players, new coaching staffs, larger/louder crowds, different reasons for optimism based on quality of play....I still hold out hope this can be a successful season, I just haven’t seen the markers for optimism thus far.
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res
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01-02-20 09:43 AM - Post#295744
In response to Bison137
Certainly not a good start to the season, although there have been worse since Bucknell started allowing scholarships. Here are the worst six OOC results since 2003-04, when scholarships started. Four of the six seasons turned out really well. Hopefully this one will fall into that category as well.
1. 2003-04: 3-9 (1-9 vs D1) OOC, Pomeroy ranking about 250 for OOC. Went 9-5 in PL - one game out of first.
2. 2007-08: 5-9 OOC, Pomeroy ranking of about 220 OOC. Went 6-8 in PL.
3. 2008-09: 3-11 OOC, Pomeroy ranking of 275+. Went 4-10 in PL - worst ever for Bucknell.
4. 2009-10: 5-11 OOC, Pomeroy ranking of about 260. Went 9-5 in PL - 2nd place.
5. 2014-15: 5-8 OOC, Pomeroy ranking of 240. Went 13-5 in PL - 1st place.
6. 2015-16: 3-8 OOC (2-8 vs D1), Pomeroy ranking of 213. Went 14-4 in PL - 1st place.
Thanks for the reality check, '137. It's interesting how fast we forget these kinds of things -- or at least how fast I forget them.
It looks like we've got the league set up exactly where we want it.
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Bison89
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01-02-20 11:35 AM - Post#295746
In response to res
res, you might be right! The rest of the PL along with the Bison fans have been lulled to sleep.
New season, new team, new dream . . . |
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NavyVoice
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01-03-20 10:43 AM - Post#295842
In response to Bison89
While Colgate's big 3 gives it an edge at the top, 2-9 will be an absolute crap shoot. Losing at home could be the difference between 2-4 or 7-9.. All 5 home teams survived last night... A couple of very close calls on opening night.
Love Thursday-Sunday better officials pool... that of course ends next week when we go back to the most crowded days on the hoops schedule...
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BisonRoadWarrior
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01-05-20 02:09 PM - Post#296082
In response to NavyVoice
Lowly Holy Cross up 8 on Navy with 15 minutes left.
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BisonRoadWarrior
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01-05-20 02:51 PM - Post#296084
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
Cross wins 63-61.
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NavyVoice
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01-06-20 06:35 AM - Post#296130
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
They executed a perfect play for the winning 3-ptr. Pridgen drove kicked to Lowder, another FR, who shoots 41% and he was wide open.
At the same time, after watching them, the bigger question is why are they 2-13?
We were up 17-7 and then Austin Butler started resembling the player he looked like as a frosh. banging wide open 3's.
BTW, long overdue investment in athletic facilities look amazing there. Especially indoor football facility.
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Bison54
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01-06-20 08:14 AM - Post#296131
In response to NavyVoice
At the same time, after watching them, the bigger question is why are they 2-13?
Because they are in the Patriot League?
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res
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01-06-20 08:40 AM - Post#296132
In response to Bison54
At the same time, after watching them, the bigger question is why are they 2-13?
Because they are in the Patriot League?
According to at least one posTAH.
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Bison137
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01-06-20 09:06 AM - Post#296133
In response to NavyVoice
At the same time, after watching them, the bigger question is why are they 2-13?
You must not have watched most of their other games. Terrible defense and terrible FT shooting to begin. And no post players at all. Pomeroy ranks them 333rd in the nation after yesterday's game - and they would be closer to #350 if Pomeroy included their loss to D3 UMass-Boston.
Having said that, they have a very good freshman class and two good recruits coming next year.
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Bison137
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01-06-20 09:09 AM - Post#296134
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
Cross wins 63-61.
Up by a point in the final 30 seconds, a Navy FT shooter - a career 70% shooter - badly missed on two consecutive FT's, then HC hit a three with seven seconds left, and then Navy rimmed out a three at the buzzer.
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NavyVoice
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01-06-20 11:55 AM - Post#296142
In response to Bison137
Our free throw shooting was not its best down the stretch..
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Old Bison
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01-06-20 12:25 PM - Post#296144
In response to NavyVoice
may it not pass quickly
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NavyVoice
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01-06-20 01:05 PM - Post#296147
In response to Old Bison
haha See ya Wednesday
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Bison137
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01-06-20 03:57 PM - Post#296165
In response to NavyVoice
From Bison MBB:
"Be sure to check out the PLN feature on Andrew & Tommy Funk at halftime of tonight's Army-Colgate game on CBS Sports Network! "
https://twitter.com/Bucknell_MBB/status/1 214248085...
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Bucknellbisonfan21
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01-06-20 08:13 PM - Post#296171
In response to Bucknellbisonfan21
Embarrassing start for the patriot league in it’s first televised game of the season. Long delay to get the clocks working.
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Bison137
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Around the Patriot League 2019-20 01-06-20 08:37 PM - Post#296172
In response to Bucknellbisonfan21
Embarrassing start for the patriot league in it’s first televised game of the season. Long delay to get the clocks working.
Definitely embarrassing. But all the embarrassment belongs to Army. . It’s their facility and they didn’t even bother to check the clock before the game started. I have been to many many games in this arena, and it’s not unusual to have screw-ups in different areas.
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bison63
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01-07-20 12:05 AM - Post#296173
In response to Bison137
We have had our share of clock issues
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Bison137
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01-07-20 12:31 AM - Post#296174
In response to bison63
We have had our share of clock issues
Yes, but not before the game even began.
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