BuffaloBison
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12-01-19 05:56 PM - Post#293204
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Bison89
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Re: Greg Schiano back at Rutgers
12-03-19 06:49 AM - Post#293329
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The link above would not work.
This one does:
https://973espn.com/rutgers-greg-schiano- agree-to-...
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Bison89
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02-24-20 05:17 PM - Post#301667
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Good article about what Greg Schiano went through and being back at Rutgers:
https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2020/ 02/exclusi...
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02-24-20 07:03 PM - Post#301679
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As a youngster living in Milton my dad, as a loyal Bucknell alum, took me to Bison football games from about 1962-1968. Just read in Schiano's Wikipedia bio that the late great Tom Mitchell was his father in law. I knew Schiano played at Bucknell but never knew he married Mitchell's daughter. For those who never saw Tom play, trust me. Nobody could stop Tom Mitchell from catching a pass. And they had a hell of a time stopping him afterwards. Best football player ever at Bucknell?
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bison63
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02-24-20 09:18 PM - Post#301691
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Sounds like you just missed Paul Terhes, but guess you got to see Sam Havrilak, who was a teammate of Mitchell on the Colts Super Bowl V team. I’d say it would be tough to disprove your contention that Mitchell was the greatest ever Bison FB player.
I wonder if people on this board are aware that Ashton Ditka, Mike’s brother was a star back on the 59-61 teams. He was a smaller version of his brother.
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JimK_LU72
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Greg Schiano back at Rutgers
02-24-20 09:58 PM - Post#301694
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We did see Havrilak play. Very special athlete. Started his career at Bucknell as a receiver. I believe starting quarterback got hurt and Sam filled in. For good. He authored famous win over Temple October 1968. Held all sorts of Bucknell yardage records for years. Later on I found out he interned at my father's dental practice in Milton. Bob Odell must have been a great recruiter to get these guys to Lewisburg.
Here's a link: https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bs-sp-catching ...
Edited by JimK_LU72 on 02-24-20 10:08 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Bison137
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02-24-20 10:07 PM - Post#301695
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I’d say it would be tough to disprove your contention that Mitchell was the greatest ever Bison FB player.
Totally different eras, but I think it would be very tough to not vote for Clarke Hinkle, who is in both the college and NFL halls of fame.
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candyfan
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02-25-20 08:49 PM - Post#301752
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Never saw Clark Hinkle play, but he may be greatest Bison?
I'd vote for Paul Terhes, the hot shot QB from 60's. While Tom Mitchell went on to NFL career and was truly exceptional to watch out on the Bucknell field, Paul Terhes was the guy who engineered a lot of victories for Bucknell and made the Bison's fun to watch in any game he played! He could really zing it!
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bison63
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02-26-20 10:25 PM - Post#301879
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First thanks to JimK for the Havrilak link. Also have to admit I forgot about Hinkle, who even I am not old enough to have seen play, and have to agree about Terhes, who was not only a great quarterback, but a terrific defensive back as well. He also engineered a 15-8 win over Rutgers in 1959.
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Bison89
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10-25-20 07:58 AM - Post#315362
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With a BIG win at Michigan State, it looks like Greg Schiano is already working his magic again at Rutgers. I don't think that many Big 10 teams will take the Scarlet Knights for granted going forward.
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bisonmania
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10-25-20 12:12 PM - Post#315369
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Michigan State had 7 turnovers. You won’t win very often when you give the ball away that much.
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Bison89
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10-26-20 01:39 PM - Post#315402
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Michigan State had 7 turnovers. You won’t win very often when you give the ball away that much.
Yup. Prior to this game, I had never seen a game when a team had 7 turnovers.
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Bison54
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10-26-20 08:19 PM - Post#315455
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1980 8 fumbles lost in a 19-0 Lehigh win
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Bison89
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Greg Schiano back at Rutgers
10-27-20 02:55 PM - Post#315545
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1980 8 fumbles lost in a 19-0 Lehigh win
To cough up 8 fumbles and lose by only 19 is a miracle! Our D must have been amazing.
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Bison54
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Re: Greg Schiano back at Rutgers
10-31-20 08:18 PM - Post#315792
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Rutgers lost today 37-21. Late in the game, in desperation time, there was an incredible play for an apparent touchdown that had 8 laterals, which, unfortunately, included one that went forward one yard so the play was nullified.
https://247sports.com/Article/Rutgers-footb all-Ind...
Edited by Bison54 on 10-31-20 08:20 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Bison89
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Re: Greg Schiano back at Rutgers
11-02-20 12:00 PM - Post#315826
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Rutgers lost today 37-21. Late in the game, in desperation time, there was an incredible play for an apparent touchdown that had 8 laterals, which, unfortunately, included one that went forward one yard so the play was nullified.
https://247sports.com/Article/Rutgers-footb all-Ind...
My nephew couldn't wait to send me a link to that video. It was amazing. Shame that it was not a TD.
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Bison54
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Re: Greg Schiano back at Rutgers
11-02-20 11:04 PM - Post#315881
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Reminds me of a super bowl V play long ago when a bad break cost Sam Havrilak a halfback option TD pass
https://gatorrick15.wixsite.com/bmoresportsnest/th...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Havrilak#:~: text...
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Re: Greg Schiano back at Rutgers
11-03-20 09:25 AM - Post#315884
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54, thanks for sharing. I did not know anything about Sam. After reading Wikipedia, I was surprised that he graduated from Bucknell and won a Super Bowl. Interesting! I wonder how many other Bucknellians have won major sports championships (NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL)???
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res
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Greg Schiano back at Rutgers
11-03-20 03:13 PM - Post#315908
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His teammate on the Colts Tom Mitchell (Greg Schiano's father-in-law) for one. Clark Hinkle and Christy for two more. I'll let 137 do the heavy lifting.
Edited by res on 11-03-20 03:24 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Bison137
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11-03-20 04:41 PM - Post#315912
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One name that comes to mind is Potsy Jones, who was a multiple all-pro OL in the 1930's. Played for at least one NY Giants championship team, plus at least three teams that lost in the championship game. Jones played for the Bison from 1927-29 when they went 19-7-4 and beat Penn State all three years.
Another Bison who played for an NFL championship team was Arda Bowser, a RB and kicker, who played for the undefeated Canton Bulldogs in 1922. Bowser actually played for pro teams in two different leagues at the same time, and he once played four games in four days over the long Thanksgiving weekend.
And George Young, of course, was the architect of a couple of NY Giants Super Bowl wins as their GM - but he was not a player.
In MLB, Moose McCormick played for NY Giants teams that won NL championships in 1912 and 1913 - but they lost in both World Series.
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Bison54
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11-03-20 06:45 PM - Post#315925
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While he didn't play for Bucknell, Jimmy V comes to mind.
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Bison137
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11-03-20 07:19 PM - Post#315926
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While he didn't play for Bucknell, Jimmy V comes to mind.
That reminds me. Bison alum Jay Wright, of course, won two national championships as a coach. And Bison alum (and three sport star) Doggie Julian won a national championship in basketball as the coach of Holy Cross.
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Bison54
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11-04-20 09:48 AM - Post#315938
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We would be remiss to leave out Pat Flannery at Lebanon Valley D3 Champions,
And while not a Bucknell alum, Dave Paulsen at Williams, before Bucknell.
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Greg Schiano back at Rutgers
11-04-20 08:18 PM - Post#315974
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Have to mention Tom McLean who was NCAA champion in the 800 meters in 1976 (and a pretty good basketball player).
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Bison137
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11-04-20 08:42 PM - Post#315976
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Speaking of track, wikipedia reports that Bill Reifsnyder won the national championship in the marathon in 1989 and 1991. I realize that those races may not have had all of the top U.S. runners, but it still appears to be a U.S. championship.
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jkrun80
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11-06-20 03:14 PM - Post#316123
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Speaking of track, wikipedia reports that Bill Reifsnyder won the national championship in the marathon in 1989 and 1991. I realize that those races may not have had all of the top U.S. runners, but it still appears to be a U.S. championship.
I had forgotten those, but you are correct. Regardless of whether all the top US runners showed up for those races, it is still a great accomplishment and a legitimate national championship. To put it in perspective, Bill led the 1992 US Olympic Trials (along with Keith Brantley) for much of the race before eventually finishing 5th.
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bison75
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11-06-20 10:35 PM - Post#316132
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True story. I once ran in a race with Bill Reifsnyder. Back in the 80s every little town had a 10k, and Reifsnyder ran (and of course won) a 10k in Troy, a little north of Williamsport. I was a back of the pack slogger, and I would guess he was showered and halfway home by the time I finished. Still, I thought it was pretty cool to have someone like that in a race I was running in.
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Bison137
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Greg Schiano back at Rutgers
11-07-20 12:38 AM - Post#316134
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True story. I once ran in a race with Bill Reifsnyder. Back in the 80s every little town had a 10k, and Reifsnyder ran (and of course won) a 10k in Troy, a little north of Williamsport. I was a back of the pack slogger, and I would guess he was showered and halfway home by the time I finished. Still, I thought it was pretty cool to have someone like that in a race I was running in.
Interesting. Believe it or not, there is a site that has historic records of all road races for certain runners. All of Reifsnyder's races, including one in Troy on August 18, 1985, are documented. He won that race in a time of 29:27. Not his best, but not too shabby. About 4:45 a mile for the 6.2 miles. No record of his margin of victory. He ran the Philly half marathon four weeks later in a time of 1:01:47.
https://more.arrs.run/runner/3822
A question for jkrun80: Looking at this performance list, I see Reifsnyder only ran one race in 1993 (in February), then didn't run for a year. Then had a couple of mediocre (by his standards) races, ending with a DNF - the last recorded race of his career. (He only had two DNF's in 16 years of extensive road racing.) I assume he was battling injuries or other physical issues at this stage of his career. Is that accurate?
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Re: Greg Schiano back at Rutgers
11-07-20 09:52 PM - Post#316148
In response to Bison137
Interesting. Believe it or not, there is a site that has historic records of all road races for certain runners. All of Reifsnyder's races, including one in Troy on August 18, 1985, are documented. He won that race in a time of 29:27. Not his best, but not too shabby. About 4:45 a mile for the 6.2 miles. No record of his margin of victory. He ran the Philly half marathon four weeks later in a time of 1:01:47.
https://more.arrs.run/runner/3822
A question for jkrun80: Looking at this performance list, I see Reifsnyder only ran one race in 1993 (in February), then didn't run for a year. Then had a couple of mediocre (by his standards) races, ending with a DNF - the last recorded race of his career. (He only had two DNF's in 16 years of extensive road racing.) I assume he was battling injuries or other physical issues at this stage of his career. Is that accurate?
Yes. Bill admits he over trained for the 92 Olympic Trials and started having a number of injury issues. I believe the final straw was a back injury from which he never really recovered, but I don't remember the details.
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DoCtoR62
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11-08-20 09:26 PM - Post#316188
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Bison75 - hope this brings back good memories.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rqNH_gVs8Yn5d Mqwv...
(Actually, I hope it opens.)
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