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jkrun80 
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11-14-21 09:04 PM - Post#328532    
    In response to HuskyColonial

  • HuskyColonial Said:
I could care less about the masking because if you’re not vaccinated at this point, that’s on you.

I’d rather focus on whether this team wins 5 games this years and I’m not kidding either. Unless it’s a fluke, who does this team beat? Davis will be fine in Lewisburg until 2045 apparently.



Not that I want to give this thread any oxygen, but you guys are watching a different game than I am. You act like we just lost to two D3 or bottom-feeder D1 teams. This was a back and forth game until the last four minutes when they let it get away. But losing to Penn is hardly an embarrassment. We'll see how the season plays out, but this team looks much improved over last year.

 
HuskyColonial 
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11-14-21 09:49 PM - Post#328561    
    In response to jkrun80

Not that you want to give this thread any oxygen…..

Why would you preface your post with this? Because you’re suggesting Davis is a good coach who needs 2 or 3 more seasons because he’s a a successful recruiter? Maybe he’s someone who has grown the program and surpassed the successes of the last three coaches and thus deserves an extension through 2030?

I agree. You probably shouldn’t give this thread any oxygen.


 
Bison54 
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Fire ND!
11-14-21 09:59 PM - Post#328565    
    In response to HuskyColonial

The old gym is named for him, how can he ever leave?


 
bisonmania 
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11-15-21 10:29 AM - Post#328579    
    In response to Bison54

My biggest problem with the Penn game was no one else did much outside of Funk. He shot lights out for part of the game. He is not going to score 30 a game and if he didn’t yesterday this probably would have been a blowout loss! The problem I have with Davis is that he does not recruit well at all and it is proven! Each class must have a really solid player in order to compete year in and year out. He and this staff has not done so. Bucknell is not going to compete in most games when you don’t have a solid starting 5 players. And this team definitely does not! Your kidding yourself if you think they have that! If Bucknell wants to get back to winning they need to move on from Davis.

 
Bison137 
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11-15-21 04:21 PM - Post#328583    
    In response to bisonmania

Both Bison basketball head coaches sent out email updates today.

In Trevor Woodruff's brief email, there were three references to the fans:

- "Let me start by saying thank you to all of you that made the trip to Columbus for our season-opening game against the Buckeyes. Your energy was felt by all of us."

- " If any of you are in or around Philadelphia this weekend, I hope you will take the opportunity to stop in and support the Bison."

- "As always, I leave you with a sincere thank you for your continued support. We are proud to represent all of you and hope to see you soon."


Nathan Davis comments on the Bison fans in a lengthy email:

NONE. No thank you's, no mention of fans who came out in NC, no shout out for a good student turnout.


In ND's perfect world, there would be no fans to deal with.




 
Bison54 
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11-15-21 09:52 PM - Post#328605    
    In response to Bison137

and no email updates to write either.


 
mcapodee 
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11-16-21 09:28 AM - Post#328611    
    In response to Bison54

With so much of the fundraising activities being (rightfully so) focused on academics, I'm guessing the Athletic Department isn't in the position to be paying two coaches at once, so everything is this thread aside firing is probably out.

 
Paulie777 
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11-16-21 09:43 AM - Post#328613    
    In response to mcapodee

  • mcapodee Said:
With so much of the fundraising activities being (rightfully so) focused on academics, I'm guessing the Athletic Department isn't in the position to be paying two coaches at once, so everything is this thread aside firing is probably out.



Thats a good idea. Bucknell could have an old coach mentor Davis as he coaches. They aren't allowed to coach the players but can give helpful tips to the coaches. I think Paulson is doing this at Fordham.


 
Bison137 
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11-16-21 11:07 AM - Post#328617    
    In response to mcapodee

  • mcapodee Said:
With so much of the fundraising activities being (rightfully so) focused on academics, I'm guessing the Athletic Department isn't in the position to be paying two coaches at once, so everything is this thread aside firing is probably out.



They paid two football coaches at the same time not so long ago. Anyway there may well be alumni willing to pay some money to effect a coaching change. I would certainly be willing to pay a few dollars.

I think the biggest factor is whether he only has one more year on his contract after this year. He got an extension at some point, but I don’t know when or for how long. But I suspect this might be the next- to-last year.




 
Bison54 
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11-16-21 05:57 PM - Post#328633    
    In response to Bison137

If that is the case, maybe a non-extension at the end of this year might be a possibility. An extension is typical so that a coach has some longevity to present to recruits. So if he is not extended, that will be the writing on the wall but will also be a recuiting impediment.


 
MrPhillie 
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11-16-21 06:52 PM - Post#328637    
    In response to Bison54

In my view, Davis is not a likable person. He appears arrogant, privileged, disrespectful, and couldn’t care less about fans. Add to this poor recent performance and recruiting, I feel bad for both players and fans.

 
Bison137 
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11-16-21 07:13 PM - Post#328641    
    In response to Bison54

  • Bison54 Said:
If that is the case, maybe a non-extension at the end of this year might be a possibility. An extension is typical so that a coach has some longevity to present to recruits. So if he is not extended, that will be the writing on the wall but will also be a recuiting impediment.




The other issue is what kind of buyout provision is in his contract. The majority of college contracts have buyouts where the coach gets less than 100% of the money left on the contract if he is axed. Paulsen, for example, didn't even get 50% when GMU made their coaching change last spring.




 
HuskyColonial 
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11-25-21 10:06 PM - Post#329848    
    In response to Bison137

I think if Bucknell wins more than 6 games but less than 10 games this season, Davis should be offered an extension and pay raise. Let’s lock him down until 2030 and guarantee mediocrity for years to come.

This is a joke. We all know it.

 
bisonmania 
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11-26-21 11:54 AM - Post#329850    
    In response to HuskyColonial

Husky, I totally agree with your opinion on the 6-10 wins this season with 10 being a reach. No one knows what covid or injury will bring in any team but the sample size is now big enough to show what the team consists of for this year and more than likely beyond. I posted before on this thread that your kidding yourselves if you feel this team will contend for anything now and moving ahead. No one on this board is pointing aim at anyone other than the coaching staff! I feel most are passionate fans of Bucknell and we are accustomed to better play. Hopefully the school sees this and becomes proactive after this season.

 
Paulie777 
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11-26-21 04:35 PM - Post#329858    
    In response to bisonmania

I like the team this year. There is potential at least in the Patriot league, although the highest we can achieve there is 4th. Timmerman is doing well, Edmunds is a bright spot, and there are others. The worst part is the message board and fan base morale is low, and the team is underachieving. I do miss the enthusiasm.

 
HuskyColonial 
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11-26-21 05:48 PM - Post#329860    
    In response to Paulie777

The message board is a reflection of poor performance dating back years.

 
Bison89 
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11-27-21 08:47 AM - Post#329868    
    In response to Paulie777

  • Paulie777 Said:
I like the team this year. There is potential at least in the Patriot league, although the highest we can achieve there is 4th. Timmerman is doing well, Edmunds is a bright spot, and there are others. The worst part is the message board and fan base morale is low, and the team is underachieving. I do miss the enthusiasm.



Paulie, whatever you are drinking, please send some to Philly. I could use a swig. I find it very hard to be optimistic about an underperforming team with a zombie coach (no emotions). I genuinely hope that the Bison win every game, but right now, it looks a ranking above #250 might be a miracle.
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
MrPhillie 
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11-28-21 12:18 PM - Post#329931    
    In response to Bison89

Yes, of course I want the team to win every game, but realistically I have to look for glimpses of hope. There are a few good young pieces, but true contending for a PL championship seems more than a few years away. I’m not a fan of Davis not just because coaching his own recruits hasn’t translated to performance and results we have come to expect on the court…but also because of his personality. We have been receiving more emails from him because I assume it has been suggested to him and because fundraising is down. We continue to support the program with some donations and by sitting in our seats every home game. But it takes some creativity to find reasons to cheer as in the “old days.”

 
The Psycho of Sojka 
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11-28-21 03:27 PM - Post#329954    
    In response to MrPhillie

The only cheering I’ll be having is when ND gets the boot. Every game I watch I just sit here wondering which player is leaving next.

 
Scotty-14 
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11-28-21 06:24 PM - Post#330048    
    In response to The Psycho of Sojka

This team is talented enough (Especially with the prospect of freshmen development) to be a top 3 finisher in PL Regular Season and reach a PL Tournament Championship (And at least not lose by 80). If the above does not materialize, I will firmly be in the "Hire John Griffin" camp.

 
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