HoleinOne
Masters Student
Posts: 596
Loc: Bluffton, SC
Reg: 02-15-09
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04-11-20 08:15 AM - Post#306131
In response to Old Bison
Most coaches lose their jobs or gain renewals based on trends. In a league like the Patriot, you tend to play against the same coaches and same strategies over and over. Building a system that evolves over several years against the same offenses and defenses, along with recruiting, sometimes as important as one year of W/L's. Personal opinion - ND's trends in most key areas are down but too soon to do more than wait to see how his recent recruiting classes perform.
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Bison54
PhD Student
Posts: 1800
Reg: 11-18-09
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04-28-20 02:01 PM - Post#306753
In response to raybucknell12
Today's email blast from the coach mixes up the names of the new class (Lattimer and Turner) and doesn't mention the players who left.
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nh2032
Sophomore
Posts: 185
Reg: 02-28-06
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04-29-20 01:23 PM - Post#306806
In response to Bison54
You have to admit if Davis was able to sign NBA player Myles Turner that'd be a good get...
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HuskyColonial
PhD Student
Posts: 1976
Age: 50
Reg: 02-17-12
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06-17-20 11:35 PM - Post#309171
In response to nh2032
Time for a bump. Since I’m a 90% negative lifetime Bison fan, I thought I’d push for 91% and remind everyone how badly Davis coached and lost the team last year.
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Old Bison
Masters Student
Posts: 619
Age: 65
Reg: 07-09-17
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06-19-20 09:09 PM - Post#309292
In response to HuskyColonial
Hey Husky, remind me where you played again?, where you coached as well? and if you don't mind can you tell me what your profession is? and what company you work for?
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HuskyColonial
PhD Student
Posts: 1976
Age: 50
Reg: 02-17-12
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Fire ND! 06-22-20 10:32 AM - Post#309377
In response to Old Bison
Hey Old Bison.....WTF do you think you are tough guy? The fan police? Keep this up and I'll report you to the Administrator.
This board is loaded with former players and homers I understand that. But don't try to bully me off.
Edited by HuskyColonial on 06-22-20 10:35 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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The Psycho of Sojka
Sophomore
Posts: 107
Reg: 11-15-15
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Re: Fire ND! 11-29-20 07:53 PM - Post#317436
In response to HuskyColonial
That time of the year again! Who’s ready?
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HuskyColonial
PhD Student
Posts: 1976
Age: 50
Reg: 02-17-12
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11-30-20 10:17 AM - Post#317466
In response to The Psycho of Sojka
Ha! Not one of my finer moments.
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The Psycho of Sojka
Sophomore
Posts: 107
Reg: 11-15-15
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01-02-21 05:21 PM - Post#318455
In response to HuskyColonial
Looks like a great day to bring this thread back to the top.
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Bison89
Professor
Posts: 5370
Loc: Philadelphia
Reg: 11-14-07
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01-04-21 05:32 PM - Post#318563
In response to The Psycho of Sojka
Psycho, I'll give you credit for being persistent!
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HuskyColonial
PhD Student
Posts: 1976
Age: 50
Reg: 02-17-12
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01-04-21 05:36 PM - Post#318564
In response to Bison89
I’ll only say that I think this team has parts greater than their sum. Lots of people on this board no more about playing and coaching basketball than I ever will. But I think it’s becoming clear there’s a problem here.
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Paulie777
PhD Student
Posts: 1767
Reg: 11-11-07
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01-04-21 06:02 PM - Post#318566
In response to HuskyColonial
Nate Davis is not a Paulson or Flannery. He's a mere mortal generic basketball coach who puts in the work at practice and is an introverted lump during game time. We could do worse, we could do better. I think this group of players is pretty good and he won't optimize them but he'll do OK. Let's close this thread for the year and enjoy the games. If needed pick it up a half dozen games in next year.
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bison63
Postdoc
Posts: 3857
Reg: 01-23-06
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01-04-21 07:15 PM - Post#318571
In response to Paulie777
ND is not getting fired. In fact, can somebody name me one Bison men’s basketball coach that was EVER fired. It is not in Bucknell’s DNA, so stop with the Fire ND crap and let’s enjoy the development of the talented class that ND is responsible for recruiting. Teams with dominant big men win in this league, and it looks like we’ve have another one.
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Bison137
Professor
Posts: 16147
Reg: 01-23-06
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01-04-21 07:24 PM - Post#318573
In response to bison63
ND is not getting fired. In fact, can somebody name me one Bison men’s basketball coach that was EVER fired. It is not in Bucknell’s DNA, so stop with the Fire ND crap and let’s enjoy the development of the talented class that ND is responsible for recruiting. Teams with dominant big men win in this league, and it looks like we’ve have another one.
The coach before Valvano was the last to be fired. But many other Bison coaches in other sports have been fired in the last decade.
As for the talented freshman class, hopefully it will develop. It is very necessary after two mediocre classes preceding it. ND and staff have been mediocre by PL standards in the recruiting area.
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The Psycho of Sojka
Sophomore
Posts: 107
Reg: 11-15-15
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01-05-21 11:43 AM - Post#318615
In response to bison63
Teams with dominant big men in the PL typically are at the top unless something happens to them. Davis has lost 2 player due to transferring and if he doesn’t change the issues that we all see. There could/would be more. Like I said before on this thread early on compare the stats of Davis percentages with DP recruits vs. his own and do the same when he was at Randolph Macon. It’s follows the same trend and I don’t see that trend changing any day soon.
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bison63
Postdoc
Posts: 3857
Reg: 01-23-06
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Fire ND! 01-05-21 02:21 PM - Post#318625
In response to Bison137
ND is not getting fired. In fact, can somebody name me one Bison men’s basketball coach that was EVER fired. It is not in Bucknell’s DNA, so stop with the Fire ND crap and let’s enjoy the development of the talented class that ND is responsible for recruiting. Teams with dominant big men win in this league, and it looks like we’ve have another one.
The coach before Valvano was the last to be fired. But many other Bison coaches in other sports have been fired in the last decade.
As for the talented freshman class, hopefully it will develop. It is very necessary after two mediocre classes preceding it. ND and staff have been mediocre by PL standards in the recruiting area.
That. Coach would be Don Smith. Was he in fact fired? Asking because I don’t know. His teams were basically .500 until his last two which were losers.
Edited by bison63 on 01-05-21 02:25 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Bison137
Professor
Posts: 16147
Reg: 01-23-06
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Fire ND! 01-05-21 03:08 PM - Post#318626
In response to bison63
He was fired, or his contract was not renewed. He was not a good coach.
As for Buchnell‘s willingness to fire coaches, I can name at least eight head coaches over the past 15 years who were fired or had their contract not renewed. One football coach was fired, and a second football coach would’ve been fired had he not left prior to his contract running out.
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bison63
Postdoc
Posts: 3857
Reg: 01-23-06
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01-05-21 04:30 PM - Post#318628
In response to Bison137
Yes, you are right. BU will fire coaches, but they have not done a lot of it in basketball. That’s likely because teams have usually been decent, and lately good. ND’s record at BU is also good, so I’d say he has at least 2 years before he needs to worry, and his teams will need to be bad for those two years for the axe to fall. Don’t hold your breath.
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bison63
Postdoc
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Reg: 01-23-06
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01-05-21 04:41 PM - Post#318629
In response to bison63
As an aside, i’d say Paul Newman has started his last game, unless Screen gets hurt. Newman actually is excellent coming off the bench to spell Screen, who I suspect will have his share of foul trouble. But it makes no sense not to start the Screen era right now imho.
As for the Deuce and his team leading 15 on Sunday, it could have been 40 bbif he had any accuracy from the field. All of his points were layups and foul shots ( perfect from the line). Hopefully, his shooting from the field was not represented by his Sunday performance , when he not only missed all of his shots, but missed badly.
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HuskyColonial
PhD Student
Posts: 1976
Age: 50
Reg: 02-17-12
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01-10-21 08:35 PM - Post#318982
In response to bison63
This is worth a bump. Blown out. Again. No signs of improvement, any kind of cohesion, and most importantly lack of offensive and defensive execution.
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