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Username Post: Fire ND!        (Topic#23900)
HoleinOne 
Masters Student
Posts: 558

Reg: 02-15-09
04-11-20 08:15 AM - Post#306131    
    In response to Old Bison

Most coaches lose their jobs or gain renewals based on trends. In a league like the Patriot, you tend to play against the same coaches and same strategies over and over. Building a system that evolves over several years against the same offenses and defenses, along with recruiting, sometimes as important as one year of W/L's. Personal opinion - ND's trends in most key areas are down but too soon to do more than wait to see how his recent recruiting classes perform.

 
Bison54 
PhD Student
Posts: 1625
Bison54
Reg: 11-18-09
04-28-20 02:01 PM - Post#306753    
    In response to raybucknell12

Today's email blast from the coach mixes up the names of the new class (Lattimer and Turner) and doesn't mention the players who left.


 
nh2032 
Sophomore
Posts: 164

Reg: 02-28-06
04-29-20 01:23 PM - Post#306806    
    In response to Bison54

You have to admit if Davis was able to sign NBA player Myles Turner that'd be a good get...

 
HuskyColonial 
PhD Student
Posts: 1750

Age: 48
Reg: 02-17-12
06-17-20 11:35 PM - Post#309171    
    In response to nh2032

Time for a bump. Since I’m a 90% negative lifetime Bison fan, I thought I’d push for 91% and remind everyone how badly Davis coached and lost the team last year.

 
Old Bison 
Masters Student
Posts: 607

Age: 63
Reg: 07-09-17
06-19-20 09:09 PM - Post#309292    
    In response to HuskyColonial

Hey Husky, remind me where you played again?, where you coached as well? and if you don't mind can you tell me what your profession is? and what company you work for?



 
HuskyColonial 
PhD Student
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Age: 48
Reg: 02-17-12
Fire ND!
06-22-20 10:32 AM - Post#309377    
    In response to Old Bison

Hey Old Bison.....WTF do you think you are tough guy? The fan police? Keep this up and I'll report you to the Administrator.

This board is loaded with former players and homers I understand that. But don't try to bully me off.

Edited by HuskyColonial on 06-22-20 10:35 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
The Psycho of Sojka 
Freshman
Posts: 55

Reg: 11-15-15
Re: Fire ND!
11-29-20 07:53 PM - Post#317436    
    In response to HuskyColonial

That time of the year again! Who’s ready?

 
HuskyColonial 
PhD Student
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Age: 48
Reg: 02-17-12
11-30-20 10:17 AM - Post#317466    
    In response to The Psycho of Sojka

Ha! Not one of my finer moments.

 
The Psycho of Sojka 
Freshman
Posts: 55

Reg: 11-15-15
01-02-21 05:21 PM - Post#318455    
    In response to HuskyColonial

Looks like a great day to bring this thread back to the top.

 
Bison89 
Professor
Posts: 5267
Bison89
Loc: Philadelphia
Reg: 11-14-07
01-04-21 05:32 PM - Post#318563    
    In response to The Psycho of Sojka

Psycho, I'll give you credit for being persistent!
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
HuskyColonial 
PhD Student
Posts: 1750

Age: 48
Reg: 02-17-12
01-04-21 05:36 PM - Post#318564    
    In response to Bison89

I’ll only say that I think this team has parts greater than their sum. Lots of people on this board no more about playing and coaching basketball than I ever will. But I think it’s becoming clear there’s a problem here.

 
Paulie777 
PhD Student
Posts: 1623

Reg: 11-11-07
01-04-21 06:02 PM - Post#318566    
    In response to HuskyColonial

Nate Davis is not a Paulson or Flannery. He's a mere mortal generic basketball coach who puts in the work at practice and is an introverted lump during game time. We could do worse, we could do better. I think this group of players is pretty good and he won't optimize them but he'll do OK. Let's close this thread for the year and enjoy the games. If needed pick it up a half dozen games in next year.

 
bison63 
Postdoc
Posts: 3683

Reg: 01-23-06
01-04-21 07:15 PM - Post#318571    
    In response to Paulie777

ND is not getting fired. In fact, can somebody name me one Bison men’s basketball coach that was EVER fired. It is not in Bucknell’s DNA, so stop with the Fire ND crap and let’s enjoy the development of the talented class that ND is responsible for recruiting. Teams with dominant big men win in this league, and it looks like we’ve have another one.

 
Bison137 
Professor
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Bison137
Reg: 01-23-06
01-04-21 07:24 PM - Post#318573    
    In response to bison63

  • bison63 Said:
ND is not getting fired. In fact, can somebody name me one Bison men’s basketball coach that was EVER fired. It is not in Bucknell’s DNA, so stop with the Fire ND crap and let’s enjoy the development of the talented class that ND is responsible for recruiting. Teams with dominant big men win in this league, and it looks like we’ve have another one.




The coach before Valvano was the last to be fired. But many other Bison coaches in other sports have been fired in the last decade.

As for the talented freshman class, hopefully it will develop. It is very necessary after two mediocre classes preceding it. ND and staff have been mediocre by PL standards in the recruiting area.




 
The Psycho of Sojka 
Freshman
Posts: 55

Reg: 11-15-15
01-05-21 11:43 AM - Post#318615    
    In response to bison63

Teams with dominant big men in the PL typically are at the top unless something happens to them. Davis has lost 2 player due to transferring and if he doesn’t change the issues that we all see. There could/would be more. Like I said before on this thread early on compare the stats of Davis percentages with DP recruits vs. his own and do the same when he was at Randolph Macon. It’s follows the same trend and I don’t see that trend changing any day soon.

 
bison63 
Postdoc
Posts: 3683

Reg: 01-23-06
Fire ND!
01-05-21 02:21 PM - Post#318625    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:
  • Ubison63 Said:
ND is not getting fired. In fact, can somebody name me one Bison men’s basketball coach that was EVER fired. It is not in Bucknell’s DNA, so stop with the Fire ND crap and let’s enjoy the development of the talented class that ND is responsible for recruiting. Teams with dominant big men win in this league, and it looks like we’ve have another one.



The coach before Valvano was the last to be fired. But many other Bison coaches in other sports have been fired in the last decade.

As for the talented freshman class, hopefully it will develop. It is very necessary after two mediocre classes preceding it. ND and staff have been mediocre by PL standards in the recruiting area.



That. Coach would be Don Smith. Was he in fact fired? Asking because I don’t know. His teams were basically .500 until his last two which were losers.

Edited by bison63 on 01-05-21 02:25 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Bison137 
Professor
Posts: 15447
Bison137
Reg: 01-23-06
Fire ND!
01-05-21 03:08 PM - Post#318626    
    In response to bison63

He was fired, or his contract was not renewed. He was not a good coach.

As for Buchnell‘s willingness to fire coaches, I can name at least eight head coaches over the past 15 years who were fired or had their contract not renewed. One football coach was fired, and a second football coach would’ve been fired had he not left prior to his contract running out.




 
bison63 
Postdoc
Posts: 3683

Reg: 01-23-06
01-05-21 04:30 PM - Post#318628    
    In response to Bison137

Yes, you are right. BU will fire coaches, but they have not done a lot of it in basketball. That’s likely because teams have usually been decent, and lately good. ND’s record at BU is also good, so I’d say he has at least 2 years before he needs to worry, and his teams will need to be bad for those two years for the axe to fall. Don’t hold your breath.

 
bison63 
Postdoc
Posts: 3683

Reg: 01-23-06
01-05-21 04:41 PM - Post#318629    
    In response to bison63

As an aside, i’d say Paul Newman has started his last game, unless Screen gets hurt. Newman actually is excellent coming off the bench to spell Screen, who I suspect will have his share of foul trouble. But it makes no sense not to start the Screen era right now imho.

As for the Deuce and his team leading 15 on Sunday, it could have been 40 bbif he had any accuracy from the field. All of his points were layups and foul shots ( perfect from the line). Hopefully, his shooting from the field was not represented by his Sunday performance , when he not only missed all of his shots, but missed badly.

 
HuskyColonial 
PhD Student
Posts: 1750

Age: 48
Reg: 02-17-12
01-10-21 08:35 PM - Post#318982    
    In response to bison63

This is worth a bump. Blown out. Again. No signs of improvement, any kind of cohesion, and most importantly lack of offensive and defensive execution.

 
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