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DrBison 
Junior
Posts: 226

Age: 70
Reg: 12-22-08
01-10-21 08:42 PM - Post#318984    
    In response to HuskyColonial

Not “blown out”. Lots of improvement.

 
The Psycho of Sojka 
Freshman
Posts: 55

Reg: 11-15-15
01-10-21 08:58 PM - Post#318988    
    In response to DrBison

Still a Loss! Laffeyette in the last 5-8min of the game you could tell they were ready to get out of there.

 
Bison137 
Professor
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Bison137
Reg: 01-23-06
01-10-21 10:28 PM - Post#318990    
    In response to The Psycho of Sojka

FWIW, this is the first time in history that Bucknell has started 0-4 in patriot league play.




 
HuskyColonial 
PhD Student
Posts: 1750

Age: 48
Reg: 02-17-12
01-10-21 11:09 PM - Post#318991    
    In response to Bison137

I’m not sure, without 40 minutes of consistent hot shooting, who this team beats. I’m serious too. Who do they beat without an extraordinary shooting night by more than one player?

Meanwhile Davis continues to grow into his third trimester of food baby doing NOTHING to change the on the court approach or culture of the club.

Listen I’m just a towny who grew up loving to watch Bison basketball. It’s time for the influential people on this board to start formalizing their discontent before Screen and Turner bolt to greener pastures.

 
JPM 
Masters Student
Posts: 427
JPM
Reg: 05-20-08
01-11-21 12:43 AM - Post#318993    
    In response to HuskyColonial

Bring Paulsen back!😃

 
Bison54 
PhD Student
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Bison54
Reg: 11-18-09
01-11-21 09:43 AM - Post#318997    
    In response to JPM

Dane Fischer


 
Paulie777 
PhD Student
Posts: 1623

Reg: 11-11-07
01-11-21 12:28 PM - Post#318999    
    In response to Bison54

Nate Davis is going the Joe Susan route. A prior Bucknell asst. coach does incredibly well, comes back to Bucknell in all its glory, then fizzles out. A coach has to get the talented players which we have, but also has to take the next step of enthusiastically coaching them on to win games. Some coaches can get away with sitting there with a clipboard and still win, but usually they aren't playing college basketball.

 
bison63 
Postdoc
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Reg: 01-23-06
01-11-21 12:45 PM - Post#319000    
    In response to Bison54

  • Bison54 Said:
Dane Fischer


That ship sailed

 
bisonmania 
Masters Student
Posts: 853

Reg: 10-26-07
01-11-21 03:46 PM - Post#319025    
    In response to bison63

John Griffin

 
Paulie777 
PhD Student
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Reg: 11-11-07
01-11-21 03:58 PM - Post#319029    
    In response to bisonmania

Keggy the Keg

 
Bison54 
PhD Student
Posts: 1625
Bison54
Reg: 11-18-09
01-11-21 06:47 PM - Post#319068    
    In response to bisonmania

Bring some fire to the bench for sure


 
Bison54 
PhD Student
Posts: 1625
Bison54
Reg: 11-18-09
01-11-21 06:48 PM - Post#319069    
    In response to Paulie777

Dartmouth has him sewn up with an all you can drink contract


 
HuskyColonial 
PhD Student
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Age: 48
Reg: 02-17-12
01-12-21 08:22 AM - Post#319093    
    In response to Bison54

John Griffin

 
MrPhillie 
Postdoc
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MrPhillie
Loc: NE PA
Reg: 07-14-08
01-12-21 11:54 AM - Post#319120    
    In response to HuskyColonial

I would be on board with Griffin, however, seems Bucknell looks for coaches that have previous HC experience.

 
HuskyColonial 
PhD Student
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Age: 48
Reg: 02-17-12
01-12-21 07:24 PM - Post#319142    
    In response to MrPhillie

Agreed MrPhillie. If if you consider the success the men’s and women’s programs have had using that philosophy, it makes sense. Are there any good D3 coaches out there ready for the jump?

Griffin would be an exception in my mind. He is qualified on paper. He understands the culture in Lewisburg better than anyone. He understands the expectation to dominate the PL year in and year out. It is almost hubris but he knows it can be done. He also understands the level of support he’ll get from the administration of a PL school quite often indifferent to the goals of Division 1 sport programs when they don’t jive with the health of the institution.

Davis is done so this is a good conversation. I recommend Villager Realty.



 
Paulie777 
PhD Student
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Reg: 11-11-07
Fire ND!
01-12-21 08:15 PM - Post#319145    
    In response to HuskyColonial

Its obvious Griffin is on the head coach track and he would be perfect for Bucknell. I sometimes have a feeling he's going to become a legendary coach and why not have it be here? He's young, and his future is as bright as his mojo when he played at Bucknell in his freshman year. We need to get him before someone else does, or we'll be reading about him with fondness as we do with Jay Wright. Offer him a lucrative package and he would come. Don't let this legend in the making get away.

Edited by Paulie777 on 01-12-21 08:24 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
bison63 
Postdoc
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Reg: 01-23-06
01-12-21 08:51 PM - Post#319149    
    In response to Paulie777

I guess this thread is going to stick around, at least until the Bison go on a 10 game winning streak, and while I am in no way qualified to comment on the coaching, I think it is time to put one idea to rest, and that is the theory that Nathan Davis wins with the other guys players, but his record sours when he is on his own. It says here that this is untrue.
ND's best season at RM, was his last, when he was in his second season of rosters fully recruited by him. That sesaon his team compiled a 28-3 record for a .903 winning percentage, and went to the D3 Elite 8. His "worst" year if you can refer to a Sweet 16 appearance by that name was 2 seasons prior to the 28-3 season. That year he was only 21-10 for a meager .697 %, and as I said had to be content with the Sweet 16.

what's it prove? Nothing really, except the idea that he can only win with somebody elses recruits seems pretty lame. Now, possibly he had a great Asst Coach as a recruiter,ala Paulsen with Dane Fischer. I do not know. I do know that DP is not exactly setting the world on fire at George Mason. ND deserves the chance to work through this. If we are still having this conversation in two years, then we will see what we will see, but I suspect the turnaround stars with this Freshman class, and this season will be the low point. We may be hard pressed to win 4 games this year as virtually every team we play (except LU) was rated above us in the Pre Season poll. But I do believe brighter days are ahead.

 
HuskyColonial 
PhD Student
Posts: 1750

Age: 48
Reg: 02-17-12
01-13-21 12:33 AM - Post#319164    
    In response to bison63

Nathan Davis needs to go. It’s clear. The only question now is how long is he allowed to stay. I think it will be a while too which is why I’m pressing so hard.

Bucknell basketball is loyal. It’s intimate. It’s really intimate when you consider the small local fan base and scattered but passionate alumni. My friends, Nathan Davis is not a good head basketball coach at the Division 1 level. If you don’t believe this, just give our games over the last two years the eye ball test. It’s awful. And the results as well. And our most talented players left the program.

The question is how long does he hang around.

 
Paulie777 
PhD Student
Posts: 1623

Reg: 11-11-07
01-13-21 02:15 AM - Post#319166    
    In response to HuskyColonial

Although I am pleasantly surprised at the new recruits, I don't see any winning seasons in the next five years with the present coach. Maybe a flicker of competitiveness or even an unexpected win here and there but not much else. I will be the happiest guy if coach and the team can prove me wrong, and please do, but I'm not feeling it. Lackluster seasons coming up I'm afraid, and its extra bad because we have the players but will never see them be the studs and stars they are. Thats what I will miss the most. I want to see Funk own the court. I want to see Timmerman lay down a dunk. I want to be so far ahead in the game that Sechan the feel good story comes in and scores a few points. I want to see Screen fit in where Bucknell centers have. All down the tubes. Please prove me wrong team.

 
HoleinOne 
Masters Student
Posts: 558

Reg: 02-15-09
01-15-21 06:20 PM - Post#319351    
    In response to Paulie777

My main concern with this thread is that its sometimes a self fulfilling initiative. I have never been a big Davis fan, too passive on the bench, doesn't game plan well, among other factors. That being said, he likely deserves at least another year and if this thread gains momentum, wonder what it will do to recruiting. Unlikely to get a top new coach if the cupboard is bare.

 
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