ivyrules
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05-01-20 12:45 PM - Post#306878
Let's hope this question is moot.
But if there is no season, which programs are hurt most and which if any are helped?
Perhaps the same question, which programs are slated to be peaking with talent and excelling next year and which are expected to struggle?
Would a year off hurt or help the perennial bottom feeders or usual contenders? Could there be a short-term or long-term shake up of the usual pecking order?
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Go Green
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05-01-20 04:40 PM - Post#306883
In response to ivyrules
Next season should be Dartmouth's best team in a while if intact.
If the season is not played, then the losing ways will undoubtedly continue when play does resume.
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Silver Maple
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05-01-20 05:53 PM - Post#306888
In response to Go Green
I think Yale gets hurt pretty badly. They're a very strong favorite, and will lose a lot to graduation at the end of the academic year. They'll still be pretty good the following season, but the gap with the rest of the conference should be much narrower.
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Old Bear
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05-01-20 07:45 PM - Post#306893
In response to Silver Maple
IMHO, there will be BB this year. FB maybe?
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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05-01-20 10:01 PM - Post#306894
In response to Old Bear
How strange it could be for students to have to watch their classmates play on campus on ESPN+!
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james
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05-01-20 11:42 PM - Post#306896
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
I agree on Yale. If they stay healthy and the forward combo can open the floor somewhat bruner style then they are pretty loaded
Yess showed some nice signs last year. Alausa and Jarvis have the talent but haven’t had many chances . Alausa is a senior so this is his time. Along w yess. So the combo shld be decent but not bruner
I anticipate the pg role being filled by 2 returners adequately. So that’s also an if
If it’s played pre vaccine wld presume no crowds and a dialed down travel schedule at best
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1LotteryPick1969
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05-02-20 06:47 AM - Post#306901
In response to james
If it’s played pre vaccine
Begging the question "will there be a vaccine?".
Not to be overly negative (and personally still remaining optimistic), as of yet there is no vaccine for HIV, RSV (despite my own personal efforts), and Epstein-Barr virus.
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Streamers
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05-02-20 08:25 AM - Post#306903
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Or SARS, MERS, or any other Coronavirus for that matter - correct?
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Quakers03
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05-02-20 08:38 AM - Post#306905
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
How strange it could be for students to have to watch their classmates play on campus on ESPN+!
As opposed to now when if our schools are lucky they pack the gym with upwards of 200 students?
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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If there is no Ivy basketball season next year 05-02-20 09:45 AM - Post#306907
In response to Quakers03
Thinking that travel makes no sense in this environment, and likely over the coming winter. If a vaccine becomes available sooner than Bill Gates suggests ("late next year"), even the WH is saying January. No way it's distributed widely for next BB season.
Without attendance revenue, and in view of safety, travel should be curtailed, whether by plane or bus.
How about all leagues cancel OOC shedule and start season in December/January. If we want a full schedule, just play the Ivy slate 2X or even 1.5x. That would be interesting to me.
Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 05-02-20 09:45 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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1LotteryPick1969
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05-02-20 11:45 AM - Post#306909
In response to Streamers
Or SARS, MERS, or any other Coronavirus for that matter - correct?
That is my understanding.
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james
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05-02-20 01:22 PM - Post#306910
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Not sure on sars
Had heard we had major vaccine potential but it died out bf we needed it bc ro proved to be so low
So at the least this time is different as ro of Covid is higher and it went global
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james
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05-02-20 01:30 PM - Post#306911
In response to james
Good news is ivy sports are hopefully affected the least structurally
Power 5 in big trouble financially if there is no season. Like professional sports they have big payrolls in scholies and absurd salaries
And depend on football ticket sales and contributions to finance other sports
tv revs help if games are played w no crowds but if they can’t get there soon look out below
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james
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05-02-20 01:33 PM - Post#306912
In response to james
I am on positive on vaccine potential but not timeline
You have several things going for it.
You have a global war and race to get there. Massive private investment and ingenuity armed against it w all the incentive.
Gates foundation completely all in on it. They aren’t alone.
in investing parlance shorting covid is being long global innovation ingenuity and capital arbitrage.
But time is the enemy when we are discussing sports schedules.
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james
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05-02-20 01:36 PM - Post#306913
In response to james
Lastly multiple ways to win short covid.
Aforementioned vAccine potential + community immunity
Bad news is immunity hurt by lockdowns so it is pushed out and could be can kicking if no vaccine in 18 mos
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Streamers
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05-02-20 02:24 PM - Post#306915
In response to james
Lastly multiple ways to win short covid.
Aforementioned vAccine potential + community immunity
Bad news is immunity hurt by lockdowns so it is pushed out and could be can kicking if no vaccine in 18 mos
Don't rely too much on the immunity part. Corona viruses are notorious for short-lived anti-body responses. This is why we get common colds most every year and we have no vaccine yet for any of them.
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james
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05-02-20 03:48 PM - Post#306916
In response to Streamers
some encouraging signs out of South Korea this weekend on how it’s hard to get twice. But it’s not definitive yet of course
Lockdowns likely really hurt herd immunity here. But like anything hard to know without testing
Maybe 70% of us still got it and the press in North Korea research is the tipping point
Who knows
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james
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05-02-20 03:48 PM - Post#306917
In response to james
South Korea
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palestra38
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05-02-20 05:08 PM - Post#306924
In response to james
There are 2 ways to get herd immunity. The best way is to vaccine something like 80% or more of the population and those who cannot take it benefit from herd immunity.
The other way is to let the virus ravage the population, which would have resulted in something like 2 million dead here. Then you get herd immunity, but it's a really bad option.
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1LotteryPick1969
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05-02-20 05:39 PM - Post#306928
In response to james
I am on positive on vaccine potential but not timeline
You have several things going for it.
You have a global war and race to get there. Massive private investment and ingenuity armed against it w all the incentive.
Gates foundation completely all in on it. They aren’t alone.
Hmmm. Like with HIV?
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