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Username Post: Around the Patriot League 2020-21        (Topic#24344)
Bison137 
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05-17-20 06:23 PM - Post#307450    

About time for a new thread. Before posting any new items, here are a few from the past month:

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1. This year has set the record for PL transfers. Here is a current list - showing the school, player, new destination (if known), and whether the player moved up/down/laterally etc.


SCHOOL . Year . NAME . Ht. Pos . W/O? New School . Up/Down

American 2020 . Bradley Nalley 6-6 SF NA ?
American 2020 . Jack Sorenson 6-1 PG Augsburg University -
American 2020 . Jacob Boonyasith 6-3 SG UMBC =
American 2020 . Kelton Samore 6-9 PF Seattle Pacific -
American 2020 . Mark Gasperini 6-10 PF Massachusetts - 5th year +
Bucknell 2020 . Jimmy Sotos 6-3 PG Ohio State ++
Bucknell 2020 . Kahliel Spear 6-7 SF NA ?
Colgate 2020 . Rapolas Ivanauskas 6-10 PF Cincinnati - 5th year ++
Holy Cross 2020 . Blake Verbeek 6-10 PF NA ?
Holy Cross 2020 . Chris Lovisolo 6-9 PF Walk on Union College -
Holy Cross 2020 . Ciaran Sandy 6-7 SF Walk on? Miami Dade College J
Holy Cross 2020 . Connor Niego 6-8 SF NA ?
Holy Cross 2020 . Drew Lowder 6-1 PG NA ?
Holy Cross 2020 . Joe Pridgen 6-5 SF NA UNCW =
Holy Cross 2020 . Lincoln Yeutter 6-2 PG Walk on NA ?
Holy Cross 2020 . Marlon Hargis 6-7 SF St. Francis (PA) =
Lafayette 2020 . Isaac Suffren 6-4 SG Howard =
Lehigh 2020 . James Karnik 6-9 C Boston College ++
Loyola (MD) 2020 . Chuck Champion 6-4 PG Albany - 5th year
=
The final entry for each player shows the quality of the player's new destination:

"++" = P6 conference
"+" = Other high major
"=" = Other D1 conference
"J" = JUCO
"E" = Player left to play in Europe
"?" = Destination not known

There are 19 transfers on the list. Sixteen are scholarship players and three are walk-ons. Three of the 16 will be in their 5th year of competition next year.

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2. James Karnik (Lehigh) transferred to Boston College. Will sit out this season.

3. Joe Pridgen (HC) transferred to UNCW. Will presumably sit out this year.

4. Ivanauskas (Colgate) transferred to Cinci as a grad transfer.

5. Holy Cross departures in the past 12 months:

- Joe Pridgen, a 6-5 SF who was ROY and played over 36 mpg in league play, is transferring to UNCW.
- Connor Niego, a 6-8 PF who played over 34 mpg in league play, recently announced he is transferring.
- Drew Lowder, a very good freshman PG, left the team in early January and is transferring.
- Marlon Hargis, a 6-7 soph PF who stared a number of games this year, is transferring.
- Blake Verbeek, a thin 6-10 sophomore center who started early in the year but then saw his minutes drop, is transferring.
- Ciaran Sandy, a 6-7 freshman forward (possibly a walk-on) transferred to a Juco.
- Chris Lovisolo, a 6-10 soph walk-on, left the team in November and transferred to Union.
- Lincoln Yuetter, a soph walk-on CG, is transferring.
- Clayton Le Sann, a 6-4 scholarship SG who played 20 mpg in the PL season (partly due to HC having almost no bench), is graduating.
- Jacob Grandison, a 6-6 forward who started his first two years, transferred to Illinois last summer.
- Caleb Green, a 5-10 PG who started his first two years, transferred to Fairfield last summer.

They have also added eight players, including a JUCO and a transfer from UNO.







 
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05-17-20 06:32 PM - Post#307451    
    In response to Bison137

Back in late November, I posted a list of PL recruits. I've now added the ones who signed since then, plus a couple of transfers. The list shows how many reported offers each player had, which schools, and in parentheses, number from "major" conferences. ("Major" is based on Pomeroy rankings for the past five years.)


AMERICAN: (5 commits, maybe 1 scholarship remaining)
- Colin Smalls . AU . 6-0 PG ( MD ) Committed June 2019 . 6 offers - AU, Stony Brook, Columbia, RMU, LC, Lowell
- Matt Rogers . AU . 6-7 PF ( MD ) Committed August 2019 . 8 offers - AU, Boston, Navy, Fairfield, Lowell, Bing, Air Force, Canisius
- Victor Brown . AU . 6-4 SG ( FL ) Committed April 2020 . 1 - AU
- Christian Lorng (JUCO) AU . 6-9 C ( France/VA ) Committed Mar 31 2020 . 1 - AU; committed to Wake two years earlier but didn't qualify academically; had some other P6 offers as soph/junior in HS.
- Johnny O'Neil AU . 6-8 PF ( FL ) Committed January 2020 . 2 - AU, SC Upstate


ARMY: (12 commits, no NCAA limit) - showing only the "better" recruits
- Isaiah Caldwell . Army . 6-4 PG ( SC ) Committed October 2019 . 5 offers - Army, Navy, Dartmouth, Presb.,USC Upstate,
- Jared Cross . Army . 6-4 SG ( VA ) Committed October 2019 . 5 - Army, Navy, Towson, ETSU, Coppin
- Matt Fleming # . Army . 6-5 SF ( ME ) Committed July 2019 . 2 - Army, Maine (Currently at MAPS)
- Matt Dove # . Army . 6-9 C ( IN ) Committed June 2019 . 1 - Army (Currently at MAPS)
- Charlie Peterson . Army . 6-9 PF ( IN ) Committed September 2019 . 1 - Army
- Zach Lezanic . Army . 6-1 PG ( PA ) Committed January 2020 . 3 - Army, Lafayette, Navy
- Griffin Lamb . Army . 6-8 PF ( AZ ) Committed April 2020 . 1 - Army


BOSTON: (3 commits, no scholarships remaining)
- Miles Brewster . Bos . 6-4 SG ( NY/CT ) Committed September 2019 . 10 offers - Boston, Bucknell, LU, Brown, Yale, Dartmouth, CCSU, Elon, NJIT, Canisius
- CJ Jones . Bos . 6-5 Wing ( CA/CT ) Committed October 2019 . 11 - Boston, Bucknell, HC, Army, Siena, Niagara, Fairfield, SHU, Penn, Vermont, SD (5th year of HS)
- Anthony Morales . Bos . 6-8 SF ( MA ) Committed September 2019 . 6 - Boston, Vermont, Bryant, Brown, Canisius, MSM


BUCKNELL: (3 commits plus 1 transfer, one scholarship remaining)
- Andre Screen . Buck . 6-11 C ( VA ) Committed September 2019 . 23 offers (7) - Bucknell, Lehigh, Boston, Loyola, American, ST JOES, URI, LA Salle, GMU, ST BONA, AKRON, OHIO, Columbia, Towson, JMU, Fairfield, Howard, MSM, Brown, Delaware, Northeastern, Cleveland, Radford,
- Deuce Turner . Buck . 6-2 SG ( PA ) Committed July 2019 . 9 (2) - Bucknell, ST JOES, LA SALLE, Lehigh, Loyola, Delaware, RMU, MSM, Hartford
- Josh Adoh . Buck . 6-4 Wing ( CA/NC ) Committed March 2020 . 2 - Bucknell, SC Upstate
- Miles Latimer (Stony Brook Transfer) . Buck . 6-3 CG ( VA ) Committed March 30 2020 . 8 - Bucknell, Stony Brook, Towson, Boston U, Q'pac, UMBC, Brown, Lafayette


COLGATE: (3 commits, none remaining)
- Alex Capitano . Colg . 6-4 SG ( PA ) Committed June 2019 . 3 offers - Colgate, LC, Columbia
- Sam Thomson . Colg . 6-8 PF/C ( CAN ) Committed August 2019 . 20 (1) - Colgate, Bucknell, HC, Boston, Lehigh, American, BRADLEY, Dartmouth, Brown, Penn, Vermont, SHU, UNH, MSM, Siena, Elon, San Fran, Canisius, Wofford, Merrimack
- Jeff Woodward . Colg . 6-10 C ( PA ) Committed August 2019 . 3 - Colgate, American, Army


HOLY CROSS: (7 commits, plus 1 transfer)
- DaJion (Bubba) Humphrey . HC . 6-4 CG/SF ( MI ) Committed September 2019 . 6 offers (1) - HC, LC, KENT, Brown, Cleveland, Sam Houston
- Judson Martindale . HC . 6-6 Wing ( MA ) Committed October 2019 . 18 - HC, Bucknell, Boston, American, Vermont, Fairfield, Iona, Q'pac, Manhattan, G.Webb, UNCG, St. Francis, UMBC, SD, Cleveland, Bryant, Brown
- M. Rabinovich . HC . 6-10 PF/C ( MA ) Committed October 2019 . 9 - HC, Lehigh, American, Boston, SHU, Brown, UMBC, UNH, Hartford
- Louth Coulibaly . HC . 6-8 PF ( CAN ) Committed April 2020 . 6 - HC, Boston U, Youngstown, S.Dakota, Del St., UMKC
- Randy Johnson . HC . 6-1 PG ( NC ) Committed October 2019 . 1 - HC
- Bo Montgomery . HC . 6-5 Wing ( TN ) Committed October 2019 . 4 - HC, SIUE, Campbell, Howard
- Malcolm Townsel (JUCO) . HC . 6-5 PF/C ( IL ) Committed October 2019 . 1 - HC
- Gerrale Gates (New Orleans Transfer) . HC . 6-6 PF ( NC ) Committed May 2020 . 6 - HC, Albany; UNH,Alcorn, UNO, UT-Martin


LAFAYETTE: (3 commits, 1 left)
- Jon Brantley . LC . 6-2 CG ( MI ) Committed September 2019 . 4 offers - LC, Boston, NJIT, Brown
- Eric Sondberg . LC . 6-5 Wing ( MD ) Committed July 2019 . 1 - LC
- Kyle Jenkins . LC . 6-7 SF ( CT ) Committed June 2019 . 2 - LC, CCSU


LEHIGH: (4 commits plus 1 walk-on, none left)
- Jalin Sinclair . Leh . 5-10 PG ( NY/CT ) Committed March 2019 . 3 offers - Lehigh, Iona, Stony Brook
- Ben Li . Leh . 6-6 SF ( CAN/VA ) Committed May 2019 . 4 - Lehigh, American, LIU, MSM
- John Thomas Tan . Leh . 6-8 PF ( CA ) Committed October 2019 . 4 - Lehigh, American, Montana, UC SD
- Luke Traina . Leh . 6-5 Wing ( PA Committed October 2019 . Preferred Walk-on; 1 - Charleston Southern (LU: some need-based aid)
- Dominic Parolin . Leh . 6-8 PF ( CAN Committed April 2020 . 1 - Lehigh


LOYOLA: (2 or 3 commits, one or two scholarships left)
- Wade Jackson . Loy . 6-2 SG ( MD ) Committed July 2019 . 3 - Loyola, Radford, Fairfield
- Cameron Tweedy (?) . Loy . 6-6 SF ( MD ) Committed June 2019 . 2 - Loyola, Howard; committed to LU 6/19 but never signed.
- Alonso Faure . Loy . 6-10 C ( Spain ) Committed March 2020 . No info about other offers, but was a very good player in Europe

NAVY: (13 commits, no NCAA limit) - showing only the "better" recruits Committe d
- Charles West # . Navy . 6-3 PG ( FL ) Committed October 2019 . 2 offers - Navy, Army (Currently at NAPS)
- Trae Broadnax # . Navy . 6-3 CG ( GA/FL ) Committed May 2019 . 18 (2) - FL STATE, GEORGIA, Bucknell, FGCU, UMass, UNCG, UAB, Charleston, USF, Tulane, Rice, UMES, Wofford, etc. (Currently at NAPS) - got most of his offers by the summer after his soph year and no offers after July after junior year. Did not commit until late May of senior year - well after Late Signing Period began.
- Jacob Radaker . Navy . 6-9 PF/C ( GA ) Committed July 2019 . 2 - Navy, Chatanooga
- Anthony Atkinson # . Navy . 6-6 SF ( NC ) Committed Spring 2019 . 2 - Navy, JMU (Currently at NAPS)
- Josh Hall . Navy . 6-9 PF ( FL ) Committed November 2019 . 2 - Navy, High Point



# = doing post-grad year at Service Academy prep school (MAPS or NAPS), so date of commitment does not match up with other players. In other words, a commitment in Fall of 2018 would be normal and a commitment in Spring of 2019 would be late.
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The interesting case in the names above is Trae Broadnax. His father is Horace Broadnax, PG at Georgetown with Patrick Ewing, who has been head coach at Savannah State for 15+ years. Trae got offers from both Georgia and Florida State just after he finished his sophomore year in high school - very early for someone other than a super-star. After that, he got more offers - but none from major schools. And he got no more offers after July following his junior year. He did not commit during the early signing period (November of senior year), did not commit during his senior season, and did not commit during the main part of the late signing period which starts April 15th. Then in May, he finally committed to Navy. It is unclear why he didn't commit at any of the normal times and also unclear how many offers - if any - were still on the table by May of his senior year. It's impossible to tell, although I think it is very likely that the offers from Florida State and Georgia were ones he could not have accepted and were off the table by the end of his junior season. In any event, he is now red-shirting at NAPS, and it will be interesting to see how his career progresses.




 
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05-18-20 02:08 PM - Post#307454    
    In response to Bison137

A couple things about Lafayette.

They added Tomas Verbinskis, a transfer from Richmond, shortly after Suffern left.

Also a walk-on, Ryan Zambie, is slated to be part of the class entering in the fall of 2020.

Do not believe the Pards have any scholarships remaining but I could be wrong

 
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05-18-20 04:01 PM - Post#307456    
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  • adcs2 Said:
A couple things about Lafayette.

They added Tomas Verbinskis, a transfer from Richmond, shortly after Suffern left.

Also a walk-on, Ryan Zambie, is slated to be part of the class entering in the fall of 2020.

Do not believe the Pards have any scholarships remaining but I could be wrong




1. Yes, Verbinskis, a 6-7 forward, was added by LC during semester break this past season. I doubt he will be a difference-maker. Richmond was his only reported offer when he committed there three years ago. They opted to redshirt him for the 2017-18 season, as he was not ready to contribute. Then the next year he got into one game in December, then missed the rest of the year with foot and ankle injuries. Finally in 2019-20, he played all of eight minutes during the first semester before transferring. Theoretically he will have to sit out the first semester at LC, but I imagine the NCAA will give him a waiver due to his injuries and complete lack of playing time.

2. You may be right about the LC scholarship situation, although I have always believed Michael Anekwe is a preferred walk-on - despite VC calling him a scholarship player. VC has no inside info and is not always accurate. Anekwe had no scholarship offers his senior year and committed to LC at the end of March, just prior to the late signing date. In his two years at LC, he has played exactly 20 minutes despite no major injuries. To me, his overall resume does not sound like a scholarship player.

Having said that, there has always been a question as to whether LC was allowed to utilize 13 scholarships. In 2014-15, they had 13 scholarship players - but in many other years, there appear to have been no more than 12. It's tough to tell, however, since they have lost a number of players to transfer (M. Hoffman, A. Evans, S. Dunkum, T. Barlow, I. Suffern, plus a few preferred walk-ons) - which kept the roster below maximum size.




 
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05-19-20 08:55 AM - Post#307478    
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Anekwe is definitely a PWO. You may be right that technically Lafayette is one below the NCAA allowed 13 scholarships, but it seems the program has always operated at a self-imposed 12.

Also agree that Verbinskis will be pretty far down the depth chart but with the graduations of Jarrett and Stout there are minutes to be had behind O'Boyle at SF.

 
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05-26-20 09:54 PM - Post#307914    
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Drew Lowder, who averaged over 14 ppg as a freshman PG for Holy Cross before leaving the team immediately after scoring 21 points vs the Bison in early January, has transferred to Eastern Michigan. Lowder and new coach Brett Nelson apparently clashed repeatedly and Lowder left the team but returned to HC for second semester. Unless he gets a waiver - which is very possible - he will have to sit another full year.




 
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05-27-20 12:02 PM - Post#307948    
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Lots of movement at HC. They must have several scholarships available.
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05-27-20 01:57 PM - Post#307953    
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  • Bison89 Said:
Lots of movement at HC. They must have several scholarships available.




The movement is in both directions. They have also added eight new scholarship players - one transfer, one JUCO, and six out of HS. See my list of PL recruits a few posts above this one.

It appears they have four returning scholarship players (Faw, Wade, Butler, and Reilly) - which would leave one available scholarship.




 
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05-27-20 07:11 PM - Post#307967    
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So with the 2020 recruiting classes pretty much wrapped up. Any guesses on whom might have the best incoming freshman or transfers / juco ?

 
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05-28-20 11:22 AM - Post#308024    
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  • Bison137 Said:
  • Bison89 Said:
Lots of movement at HC. They must have several scholarships available.




The movement is in both directions. They have also added eight new scholarship players - one transfer, one JUCO, and six out of HS. See my list of PL recruits a few posts above this one.

It appears they have four returning scholarship players (Faw, Wade, Butler, and Reilly) - which would leave one available scholarship.



6 out of high school appears to be a cast-a-wide-net sort of approach. I wonder if the coach will force out 2-3 if they do not work out.
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05-28-20 12:36 PM - Post#308030    
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  • Bison89 Said:


6 out of high school appears to be a cast-a-wide-net sort of approach. I wonder if the coach will force out 2-3 if they do not work out.






It wouldn't shock me if a player or two was forced out, since they have a very unbalanced roster in terms of classes:

FR - R. Johnson (PG), B. Montgomery (SG), D. Humphrey (CG), J. Martindale (SF), L. Coulibaly (PF), M. Rabinovich (C)

SO - R. Wade (SG), J. Reilly (CG), G. Gates (PF) *

JR - M. Townsel (SF)

SR - A. Butler (SF), M. Faw (PF/C)

* = Assuming he doesn't get a waiver to allow him to play this year and not sit out under NCAA transfer rules




 
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06-18-20 04:31 PM - Post#309238    
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The Patriot League presidents are meeting (virtually) tomorrow to discuss the fall and winter sports seasons. There are rumors that winter sports will start much later than usual.

 
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07-01-20 06:22 PM - Post#309876    
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From the Patriot League site:

𝗛𝗔𝗣𝗣𝗬 𝗖𝗔𝗡𝗔𝗗𝗔 𝗗𝗔𝗬
We must celebrate with the best buzzer-beater hit by a Canadian in Patriot League history!


https://twitter.com/PatriotLeagueTV/statu s/1278389...


A video that's always worth watching again!






 
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07-02-20 10:45 AM - Post#309903    
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President Bravman announced yesterday that no decision has been made about fall sports. The Ivy League presidents are supposed to announce their decision July 8. I'm sure Bucknell, if not the whole league, will follow their lead.

 
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07-02-20 11:44 AM - Post#309908    
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If Bucknell follows the ivy league, then there will be no fall sports. It is all but certain that the ivy league is going to postpone football until the spring. And Ivy basketball is likely to not start until January.




 
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07-07-20 06:29 AM - Post#310068    
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Harvard announced that only about 30% of students will be on campus at any given time in 2020-2021 with an emphasis on Freshman in the Fall and Seniors in the Spring. It is not looking good for sports in either semester:

https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports/penn/i vy-l...
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07-08-20 05:01 PM - Post#310147    
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Ivies axed fall sports, can PL be far behind?

 
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07-08-20 06:49 PM - Post#310155    
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And Ivy basketball not allowed to start until at least Jan 1 2021 which makes our expected OOC game with Princeton seem even more unlikely.

 
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07-09-20 05:52 AM - Post#310168    
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  • nh2032 Said:
And Ivy basketball not allowed to start until at least Jan 1 2021 which makes our expected OOC game with Princeton seem even more unlikely.



Here is an article about the Ivies and no Fall sports. https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports/penn-i vy-l...

BTW, NJ Gov. Murphy announced that rising Juniors and Seniors will be eligible for a 5th year of high school including playing sports. I wonder if the NCAA will do something similar.
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07-09-20 08:01 PM - Post#310221    
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Patriot League presidents meet again tomorrow, but it sounds like a done deal. There will be no fall sports competition. I don't know what they will do about practices. This is a mistake.

 
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07-09-20 08:43 PM - Post#310222    
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Agree it is a mistake. A shortened schedule is likely doable.




 
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07-10-20 09:53 AM - Post#310234    
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It raises the question of when DO you play? What is magic about the Fall semester? Seems to me that if you do not want to play now, then why would you play at all until there is a vaccine? So why not just say that and be done with it? Btw, imho, it is not a mistake, but what do I know. ( For example, anybody playing FB under these circumstance has got to be a little nuts.)

 
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07-10-20 12:33 PM - Post#310243    
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I think the biggest issue when it comes to sports is how to keep the older coaches safe. For athletes without major pre-existing conditions, the risk of death from covid-19 is extraordinarily low.

For example, per CDC stats, the percentage of people aged 15-24 who have died from covid-19 is 0.000331% (142 deaths in a population of about 43 million). That means for each one million people aged 15-24 that just over three have died from this virus. And that includes those with pre-existing conditions. Since covid has been rampant for about four months, triple the above numbers to get a yearly estimate of 426 total deaths, i.e. 10 per million if the virus remains at the levels of March through June.

For comparison, the death rate in auto accidents is about 0.026645% for the 16-25 age group, almost 30 times as high - with about 266 deaths per one million of population . And the percentage of the 15-24 population who died from drug overdoses is approximately .01%, meaning about 100 persons in a population of one million died from that cause in 2018.

Comparing total deaths for the 15-24 age group, it looks like this:

Total Covid deaths (annualized) = 426 *
Total auto deaths = 11,308 (16-25 age group)
Total overdose deaths = 4300

* Assuming virus continues to kill at the same rate for an entire year

Note that there are different ways to interpret these numbers - but the general conclusion would be the same.

One other factor is that in the northeast, covid has been controlled reasonably well in the past month. Union County, fwiw, has had a low death rate - way below the Pennsylvania average.

At this point I am not arguing to play a full sports schedule but rather am advocating a wait-and-see approach. Given the low risk to college age students, go with the original plan to start games in late September and see if the plans already in place are sufficient to control things. if not, sports could still be cancelled with no difficulty around Labor Day.




 
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07-10-20 01:06 PM - Post#310245    
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I am in favor of a Patriot League only schedule to further limit risk. It eliminates almost all overnight travel. You could even schedule games with Boston and HC at a neutral site midway between. If you assure that all the league teams are adhering to the same safety standards, the risks are minuscule.

That's better than depriving student athletes of an integral part of their college experience.

 
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07-10-20 10:29 PM - Post#310254    
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Perhaps mortality rate is low in younger people but from what I’ve read, there are a myriad of medical issues that can arise from contracting the virus, some of which potentially may not show up right away. Seems taking risks with people’s lives and quality of lives (above and beyond the known risks of playing football pre-Covid) to play a sport is rather crazy.

 
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07-13-20 12:50 PM - Post#310298    
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Official Announcement

https://patriotleague.org/news/2020/7/13/genera l-p...


 
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07-13-20 01:33 PM - Post#310303    
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Interesting that Army and Navy are exempt. Is that only for football or for all sports?

 
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07-13-20 02:48 PM - Post#310309    
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  • jkrun80 Said:
  • Bison54 Said:

Interesting that Army and Navy are exempt. Is that only for football or for all sports?



It appears to be any Fall sport.
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07-13-20 04:32 PM - Post#310316    
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Actually Army and Navy are not in the PL for football, so the announcement would appear to apply to all sports


 
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07-14-20 08:15 AM - Post#310329    
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Totally recognize the uniqueness of the military academies, but I do not see why that makes them any different than any other PL school as far as competing in sports. Likely that they just did not want to go along. Nice to have them in the league, but having one set of rules for one group of schools and another for the Academies does not seem like a good idea to me.

 
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09-15-20 09:22 PM - Post#313403    
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Not sure if this applies to football, basketball, or other sports. Hopefully it’s some good news about a date for sports resuming.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PatriotLeague/status/ 13...





 
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10-01-20 11:31 AM - Post#314359    
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Loyola hires Corin Adams as an assistant coach, the 5th female assistant in Men's division I history.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/basket ...

 
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Looks like a subscriber login is needed to read the article.
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FYI... The NESCAC just announced the cancellation of all winter sports. It will be interesting to see what the Ivies and PL decide regarding winter sports.


 
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Bucknell is delaying the start of the Spring Semester until Feb 1st and eliminating Spring Break:

https://www.dailyitem.com/coronavirus/bucknell- del...
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10-10-20 12:59 AM - Post#314764    
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I say let there be sports this winter with no fans in the arenas, have spring sports with fans in attendance, and then back to full sports and fans in the fall. The economy and private universities cannot withstand much more than two more years of this malarky. To the average 18-24 year old this is just a case of the sniffles, and they are not making covid adjustments anyways. Half the population is sequestering inside afraid to come out, and the other half its the same as always. That is no way to beat a pandemic so lets have the sports online one year and spectator the next.

 
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10-10-20 07:14 AM - Post#314765    
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no adjustments,,,,i can't speak as to any other college or university, Bucknell test each and every student every 10 days, faculty and staff every 2 weeks, everyone is required to wear a mask or face covering at all times, other then to eat or drink, on and around campus, i can attest to the fact that they are taking this very seriously, the numbers have been excellent, as they reached the half way point of the semester.....perhaps the Bucknell student is not average 18-24 year old, however, they have been all on board with this policy, including the 700 plus athletes, as they understand their education and possible opportunity to play their sport, depends on abiding by the policy of the University.

 
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10-10-20 03:42 PM - Post#314766    
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Bucknell since August 15 has had 19 Covid cases out of about 29,000 tests. Even better, there has only been one positive test in the last 25 days.




 
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  • Bison137 Said:
Bucknell since August 15 has had 19 Covid cases out of about 29,000 tests. Even better, there has only been one positive test in the last 25 days.



Play the sports. Bucknell has emerged as a leader and the best model of how to handle a pandemic in a university setting. They should be able to call the shots in how to play, how much, and when. And the students have been exemplary for the most part but its taking a toll. Winter sports would be a godsend to the students and help boost enrollment post-covid. So far so good and everyone should give themselves a pat on the back but going forward is going to have the same delicacy as Indiana Jones trying to replace a gold idol with a sandbag. I hope Bravman is up to it and the students hang in there. I vote for winter sports and full normalcy in the spring.

 
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12-01-20 10:32 PM - Post#317511    
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Navy 78, Georgetown 71 tonight. Cam Davis, who is a likely 1st team All-PL preseason pick, had 28 points. John Carter Jr had 20. Davis is averaging 17 ppg

Navy thus far has wins over GWU and Mt. St. Mary's and a lone loss to Maryland. Prior to the season, I had Navy likely finishing 4th or 5th. Now I've jumped them to 3rd, and they could be a real contender. Playing 6+ OOC games, while eight PL teams are playing zero, will give them a significant edge.




Edited by Bison137 on 12-01-20 10:33 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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12-02-20 12:59 AM - Post#317513    
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This isn’t Patrick Ewing’s Georgetown Hoyas...wait, actually it is...but still, a surprising win for Navy. And yes, no doubt their OOC play is an unfair advantage going into the conference season. If they do not get off to the best start of all PL teams this year, not sure when they will.

 
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12-09-20 11:06 AM - Post#317788    
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Navy has suspended team activities for 10 days due to covid. knocks out their last two ooc games, unless rescheduled.

 
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Navy has suspended team activities for 10 days due to covid. knocks out their last two ooc games, unless rescheduled.




Apparently it's not a major outbreak across the Academy campus as their women's team continues to practice and play games. As is the case with the men, the Bison women open up with two games vs Navy.

Students are still on campus at Navy, with a one-month leave beginning after Saturday's Army-Navy game. In January, students are scheduled to report back in a staggered fashion over a couple of weeks. Classes resume January 19th.




 
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12-31-20 03:07 PM - Post#318366    
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Loyola's first four games - two vs American and two vs Navy - have been postponed due to covid. Fortunately the schools are so close that makeup games will be easy to arrange. However things could get really messy with more positive tests since the PL staff has demonstrated that they are borderline incompetent when it comes to scheduling issues and general planning.




 
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12-31-20 05:29 PM - Post#318373    
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Loyola's first four games - two vs American and two vs Navy - have been postponed due to covid. Fortunately the schools are so close that makeup games will be easy to arrange. However things could get really messy with more positive tests since the PL staff has demonstrated that they are borderline incompetent when it comes to scheduling issues and general planning.


Borderline incompetent? You're being generous.

 
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12-31-20 05:59 PM - Post#318374    
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True. I meant to say totally incompetent but I thought I'd be generous with a new year about to start.




 
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After being run off the court yesterday by Colgate, Army went into Cotterell today and came away with a two-point win. Army missed four FT's in the final 11 seconds but Colgate couldn't do anything with it. The Cotterell fan turnout looked exactly normal.

On the women's side, Colgate led 28-14 after one quarter, following up on a big win from yesterday. After that, they were outscored 58-25!




 
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01-03-21 07:01 PM - Post#318493    
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Anybody ever started a PL season better than Justin Jaworski?

 
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Picking up right where we left off!

 
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01-04-21 11:45 AM - Post#318528    
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Holy Cross and Boston will be playing with masks on today as will all of Boston’s opponents moving forward.

https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1 346092878...

 
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Goodman corrected himself on this. Boston U will wear masks today, but HC will not since the game is at HC and it is only a Boston U rule. But tomorrow, when the game is at Boston, both will be donning masks.




 
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Holy Cross gave Boston a tough game yesterday, then beat them by 2 today. Having watch a little of yesterday's game and the highlights from today, HC is better than everyone expected and BU is probably not as good as expected.

 
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01-05-21 10:32 PM - Post#318643    
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It’s hard to ju$ge Boston U, however, since they haven’t had All-PL forward Walter Whyte. Kind of like the Bison not having John Meeks - except that Boston U has more depth.




 
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Boston drops 2 to Army at home this weekend and at least for the moment moves us out of last place, pending the outcome of our game. Clearly this is not the team they were thought to be. Gate took 2 from HC, although today’s the ‘safest gave them a run for their money before losing by 9.



Edited by bison63 on 01-17-21 04:50 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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Earlier, Navy stayed on top of the league at 6-0 after completing a eeekend sweep of AU.

 
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Earlier, Navy stayed on top of the league at 6-0 after completing a eeekend sweep of AU.




More importantly for Navy is that they are now 2-0 in their division. Record in division games will determine who gets the top six seeds.




 
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Lafayette and Loyola are currently playing a close game on CBS SN. Unfortunately the announcing is just as incompetent as ever. Mo Cassara does not preparation and knows nothing about the PL.




 
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If we could somehow conspire to figure a way to win one of the two Colgate games, with 2 more Lehigh games coming up the next week , it would make a huge difference. If we win a game vs ‘gate we would be 3-5 with the possibility of two more wins vs LU to make us 5-5. Otho, lose 2 to Gate and even if we win 2 vs LU, we are still only 4-6. (Although the 4 wins vs LU would I guess clinch us a tournament birth.). Not unlike last year, we can look like two different teams, the one that can’t shoot, and the one that can’t miss. Need to see more of the latter.

One last thought, why the hell is Ellis still starting, or for that matter why is he even playing ? How far does the fact that he led the league in 3 PT % last year carry him when he is not hitting squat this year. Lattimer is much better.

 
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1. Yes, Latimer has definitely played better. I think ND figured that out today, at least a little bit. Latimer played 26 minutes today vs Ellis' 16 minutes. Ellis' biggest claim to fame, of course, is having led the PL last year in 3-point pct. But one thing many might be surprised about is that he is 95th in the nation this year in steal pct. He had pretty good steal pct last year as well. And he has a much better rebounding pct than Latimer. Those two stats partly, but not fully, make up for his weaker offensive numbers.

I would sign on right now for a split at Colgate. Fans need to remember, however, that if the Bison can amass a better division record than Lehigh in the 8 games with LC and LU, then overall record only counts towards where the team is seeded. If they finish behind LC but ahead of LU in the 8 division games, then their overall seed would be either 4, 5, or 6 - even if they have the 8th or 9th best record.




 
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01-18-21 07:16 PM - Post#319493    
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Reinforcing 137's steals stat, in yesterday's postgame interview, Coach Brown said Ellis is considered the team's best defender and that he's routinely assigned to guard the opposing team's best player.

 
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01-18-21 08:22 PM - Post#319496    
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If Boston U has any basketball fans, they're probably more upset than our fan base.

 
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I think their fan base can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Hockey ranks 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. That's why they play in a 1500 seat HS gym and have never sold out a regular season PL game.

Btw, the PL's triumverate of poor X's and O's coaches - Joe Jones, Brett Reed, and Nathan Davis - has a combined record of 4-14 this year. That's despite having good basketball traditions at all three schools.




 
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01-19-21 11:16 AM - Post#319503    
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  • Bison137 Said:
I think their fan base can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Hockey ranks 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. That's why they play in a 1500 seat HS gym and have never sold out a regular season PL game.

Btw, the PL's triumverate of poor X's and O's coaches - Joe Jones, Brett Reed, and Nathan Davis - has a combined record of 4-14 this year. That's despite having good basketball traditions at all three schools.



Just to confirm, 137, was that a negative comment about Coach Davis?
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01-19-21 11:48 AM - Post#319504    
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I would point out that ND succeeded against the other two in his only opportunity, while BR failed.

Against other opponents, BR and JJ had one success each, none for ND.


 
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01-26-21 09:32 PM - Post#319797    
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Army's positive covid test causes Colgate to have both games cancelled for the second consecutive week.




 
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01-27-21 11:39 AM - Post#319811    
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Army's positive covid test causes Colgate to have both games cancelled for the second consecutive week.


Wow, that’s harsh! I take it the Patriot League’s protocols on this are far beyond what other leagues have. After all, Texas just played a game while Coach Shaka Smart was sidelined with a positive test.

 
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01-27-21 11:58 AM - Post#319812    
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First, I probably didn't word my post correctly. Colgate's games were cancelled because their opponent, Army, had a Tier 1 positive test and had to shut down. But I think you are correct that the PL is being more conservative.




 
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01-27-21 01:45 PM - Post#319819    
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one thing with the service academies, their players are much more likely to interact with so many more fellow students then your average school, Bucknell etc. i am guessing as part of cadet company for required drill and other daily, weekly activities, they would run the chance of contracting a virus more easily. I am not sure if the academies sent entire corps home for break. Bucknell student body returning this weekend for 2nd semester. only in the past two weeks have student athletes, joined the basketball players and wrestlers on campus, i would estimate maybe 150 total today, and the rest by next Monday, i think they figure 750 to 800 athletes of the 3600 student body.

 
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01-27-21 02:53 PM - Post#319824    
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Speaking of harsh, UConn has had their next two men's games postponed because an official in their last game - who was wearing a mask - has tested positive. Given that studies have shown transmission is rare in game situations, shutting down their program for ten days seems a bit over the top to me.

Btw, it appears that their opponent in that last game, Butler, is not shutting down.




 
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01-27-21 04:33 PM - Post#319830    
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Did anyone else watch Army-Navy on Sunday and envy the couple dozen people there enjoying it from the stands? More academy exceptionalism?

https://twitter.com/BisonRdWarrior/status /13545235...

 
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01-27-21 04:56 PM - Post#319831    
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Boston University (BU) announces it is pausing all athletic activities for the remainder of January "due to a rise in positive COVID-19 tests as the Boston University campus repopulates for the spring semester."

The change has prompted some schedule rearrangements, one of which will get Colgate back on the court the weekend:
https://patriotleague.org/news/2021/1/27/patrio t-l...

 
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01-27-21 05:04 PM - Post#319833    
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More schedule changes:

Colgate, who was going to be off again this weekend due to Army's positive test, will now play at Holy Cross. HC was scheduled to play Boston U, but "due to a rise in positive COVID-19 tests as the Boston University campus repopulates for the spring semester, the BU Department of Athletics and its varsity programs will immediately undergo a pause of all athletic activities for the remainder of January. "

It does not appear either Boston U basketball team had a positive test.

EDIT: Delayed posting and BRW beat me to it.




 
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01-31-21 02:24 PM - Post#320011    
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Loyola - Navy game today lost to the snow. From the Loyola website looks like they may be trying to make it up Tuesday.

I've lost track, but don't Loyola still have their 4 games from the first 2 weekends left to reschedule as well?

 
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01-31-21 02:58 PM - Post#320012    
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Yes, Loyola's first four games were all cancelled. I thought they would likely make up a game with American during the week, but now Loyola instead is making up its game with Navy.

Btw, Loyola just got back their good PG, Isaiah Hart. Just in time to play the Bison.




 
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Lafayette and Loyola cancelled their women's game, scheduled for today, yesterday afternoon. The LC press release said:

" The Lafayette vs. Loyola women's basketball game scheduled for Sunday at 4 p.m. has been postponed due to weather considerations. Pennsylvania's Department of Transportation has imposed travel restrictions, which includes commercial buses, on the interstate roadways beginning on Sunday at noon. "


It only took a minute on the internet to see that this was blatantly false. There were no travel restrictions at that time and, if any were added Sunday, they don't apply to commercial buses with chains or Alternate Traction Devices (ATD’s).

LC seems to have one of the least transparent Athletics Departments, but I have no idea why they'd have to make up a story like this.




 
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02-01-21 05:02 PM - Post#320106    
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PL announcement of schedule revisions:

The Patriot League has announced rescheduled contest dates for American, Loyola Maryland and Navy men's and women's basketball, in addition to one Lafayette women's basketball game. The Army West Point vs. Holy Cross men's basketball games scheduled for Saturday, Feb. 6 and Sunday, Feb. 7 have also been postponed.

The second game from the Lafayette vs. Loyola Maryland women's basketball series, originally scheduled for Jan. 16 and Jan. 17, has been moved to Wednesday, Feb. 10. The Leopards will host the Greyhounds at 7 p.m. The first game of the rescheduled series was played at Loyola Maryland's Reitz Arena on Saturday, Jan. 30.

The American and Loyola Maryland men's and women's basketball series', previously scheduled for the season's opening weekend of Jan. 2 and Jan. 3, will be played over consecutive Wednesdays on Feb. 17 and Feb. 24. The Loyola Maryland and Navy men's and women's basketball games, originally scheduled for Jan. 9 and Jan. 10, will be played on Saturday, Feb. 27 and Sunday, Feb. 28.


- - - - - - -

The PL may be painting themselves into a corner due to their failure to be proactive. The Navy-Loyola games could have been made up on earlier Tuesdays and Wednesdays - an easy thing to do since the schools are so close. Instead they are waiting until the final weekend. So what happens when there are more postponements, involving teams much further apart, and the weekend has already been taken?




 
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02-03-21 09:00 AM - Post#320137    
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Last night’s snow-makeup Navy at Loyola game was postponed “due to an inconclusive COVID-19 test within the Navy men's basketball program’s Tier 1.”


 
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02-03-21 01:33 PM - Post#320151    
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Lehigh has also paused for two weeks.

The Navy-Loyola game is one more example of why PL teams should be squeezing in every possible game whenever they can. Those two schools are 35 miles apart. Highly likely they could have played early Sunday but just assumed they could make up the game on Tuesday. Now Loyola has five games to make up - three with Navy and two with Lehigh. I doubt their games with Lehigh will ever be played.




 
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02-03-21 03:50 PM - Post#320163    
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And the cancellations keep on coming. Bucknell and Navy positive tests. Changes coming to next weekend too I'm assuming to prioritize what games get made up and which don't?

Based off the previous experience I assume lab error has already been ruled out this time...

https://bucknellbison.com/news/2021/2/3/bucknel l-m...

Edited by nh2032 on 02-03-21 03:51 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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02-03-21 05:23 PM - Post#320169    
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Are Bucknell cancellations related to Lehigh games this past weekend? Wouldn't be surprised. With the strict PL rules it seems likely that teams will have trouble meeting the threshold for NCAA tournament participation. As 137 points out, failing to reschedule games for midweek early on will likely lead to big disappointments for some really good teams (AKA Bison women). And the seniors are unlikely to be back even with the extra eligibility granted by the NCAA.


 
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02-03-21 05:33 PM - Post#320170    
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The press release says that Bison games vs American for February 13th and 14th are also postponed. Does this mean the PL (or Bucknell) is sticking to the antiquated 14-day quarantine rule. The CDC quite awhile ago said that only ten days are necessary. With a ten-day quarantine, they could surely play sometime the weekend of the 13th.




 
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02-03-21 07:35 PM - Post#320176    
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The press release says that Bison games vs American for February 13th and 14th are also postponed. Does this mean the PL (or Bucknell) is sticking to the antiquated 14-day quarantine rule. The CDC quite awhile ago said that only ten days are necessary. With a ten-day quarantine, they could surely play sometime the weekend of the 13th.


The problem is you're applying reason and logic to the situation.

 
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02-04-21 08:05 AM - Post#320194    
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Both men and women basketball teams shut down for 14 days as of Wed the 3rd,,,, might struggle to make up games, sadly.

 
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02-04-21 10:26 AM - Post#320198    
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The way I understand the NCAA tournament rules, a team needs 13 regular season games to be eligible. With the in-conference only schedule of the Patriot League, with 16 scheduled games, this introduces the real possibility that teams will not satisfy the 13 game requirement. Like the Bison have 10 games now before any rescheduling and barring any snowstorms or other cancellations. It also introduces the possibility that the PL tournament winners will not qualify for NCAA and a team that loses in the playoffs goes instead; and that team can have a losing record. Hope they get on it and start rescheduling soon.



 
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02-04-21 11:15 AM - Post#320199    
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The way I understand the NCAA tournament rules, a team needs 13 regular season games to be eligible. With the in-conference only schedule of the Patriot League, with 16 scheduled games, this introduces the real possibility that teams will not satisfy the 13 game requirement.


On the women’s side, the NCAA announced that ”from Feb. 8 through Feb. 26 it will be accepting championship eligibility waiver requests from schools unable to reach the 13-game minimum.”

I looked but haven’t found if the men are doing the same.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-women /article...

 
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02-04-21 09:49 PM - Post#320241    
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All athletics are suspended and classes are going remote for the next week. Could be a rough spring semester.

 
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02-05-21 01:00 PM - Post#320255    
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All athletics are suspended and classes are going remote for the next week. Could be a rough spring semester.



Is this for Bucknell or another school?
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02-05-21 04:04 PM - Post#320285    
    In response to Bison89

Bucknell. The wrestling match for this weekend is postponed. Next weekends events are up in the air.

 
BUFan 
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02-06-21 07:27 AM - Post#320319    
    In response to jkrun80

Only 1 PL game being played today. Seems like the PL schools are using a way stricter threshold than other leagues. Will make finishing a legit season nearly impossible.

 
Bison89 
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02-06-21 11:55 AM - Post#320323    
    In response to BUFan

BUFan, you might be correct, but when I look at Nova, they have been shutdown at least 2x for extended periods of time. So, this appears to be more of a nationwide issue IMO with certain schools and conferences taking it more seriously.
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
DrBison 
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02-06-21 02:10 PM - Post#320327    
    In response to Bison89

Colgate - BU weekend games postponed.

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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02-06-21 03:03 PM - Post#320329    
    In response to DrBison

  • DrBison Said:
Colgate - BU weekend games postponed.

Thanks, good doctor. I was about to turn on BU-Colgate and you saved me the hassle.

This "postponement" (can we confidently use that term anymore?) wasn't due to a positive test, but rather "out of an abundance of caution after a member within the Terriers' Tier 1 exhibited COVID-like symptoms."
https://goterriers.com/news/2021/2/6/both-me ns-bas...



 
Bison137 
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02-06-21 03:22 PM - Post#320330    
    In response to BUFan

  • BUFan Said:
Only 1 PL game being played today. Seems like the PL schools are using a way stricter threshold than other leagues. Will make finishing a legit season nearly impossible.





I think that is definitely correct. In most leagues, if a player tests positive then that player goes into quarantine, and they may quarantine one or two others who had very close contact. There have likely been hundreds of D1 players who tested positive without their entire team being shut down. In the PL, if one player tests positive, then the whole program shuts down for two weeks.

One other issue is the two-week shutdown. That was the CDC recommendation back in the summer but they changed it months ago. Now it is seven days, if those affected are tested at the end of that time period.




 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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02-06-21 03:39 PM - Post#320331    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:
One other issue is the two-week shutdown. That was the CDC recommendation back in the summer but they changed it months ago. Now it is seven days, if those affected are tested at the end of that time period.

That's a great point, 137. When it comes to "erring on the side of caution," the Patriot League is all-in on the erring part.

 
HuskyColonial 
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02-06-21 03:53 PM - Post#320332    
    In response to jkrun80

What a joke!

 
BUFan 
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02-06-21 03:59 PM - Post#320333    
    In response to HuskyColonial

Texas didn’t stop playing when Shaka tested positive. Colgate BU canceled because a player didn’t feel well and hasn’t tested positive. At this pace just cancel the season if you are going to cancel this easily. I feel bad for the players. Not giving them a chance to play.

Of course if a team has true COVID issues you should postpone but seems like the PL is going a bit extreme.

 
res 
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02-07-21 03:20 PM - Post#320395    
    In response to BUFan

UMass just shut down for 14 days due to an enhanced threat level at the entire campus. There were no new cases involving the team.


 
Bison137 
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02-09-21 05:27 PM - Post#320488    
    In response to res

PL announced schedule additions today.

Bucknell men are now scheduled to play American in Sojka on Saturday February 27th and on the road Sunday February 28th.

The women play at American on February 27th and in Sojka February 28th.

https://twitter.com/Miller_Dave/status/13 591686647...


They also announced a number of schedule changes/additions. At this point, the Bison have two games to make up with Colgate and two with Loyola. It's doubtful the Colgate games will be played. They may try to make up the Loyola games during the week at some point. Also you may recall the door was left open to play makeup games Saturday March 6th (and maybe Friday the 5th), with the first round of the PLT likely being pushed back to Monday the 8th.




 
Bison137 
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02-09-21 05:31 PM - Post#320491    
    In response to Bison137

Here is what the PL schedule now looks like:

DATE MEN’S BASKETBALL GAMES | COVERAGE TIME (all times ET)
Saturday, Feb. 13 Colgate at Army West Point | ESPN+ TBA
Saturday, Feb. 13 Boston University at Holy Cross | ESPN+ 2 p.m.
Saturday, Feb. 13 Loyola Maryland at Lafayette | ESPN+ 4 p.m.
Sunday, Feb. 14 Colgate at Army West Point | CBS Sports Network 6 p.m.
Sunday, Feb. 14 Holy Cross at Boston University | ESPN+ 5 p.m.
Sunday, Feb. 14 Lafayette at Loyola Maryland | ESPN+ 6 p.m.
Wednesday, Feb. 17 Boston University at Holy Cross | ESPN+ 5 p.m.
Saturday, Feb. 20 Navy at American | ESPN+ TBA
Saturday, Feb. 20 Holy Cross at Army West Point | ESPN+ TBA
Saturday, Feb. 20 Boston University at Colgate | ESPN+ TBA
Saturday, Feb. 20 Bucknell at Lafayette | ESPN+* 4 p.m.
Saturday, Feb. 20 Loyola Maryland at Lehigh | ESPN+ TBA
Sunday, Feb. 21 Navy at American | ESPN+ TBA
Sunday, Feb. 21 Army West Point at Holy Cross | ESPN+ TBA
Sunday, Feb. 21 Boston University at Colgate | ESPN+ TBA
Sunday, Feb. 21 Lafayette at Bucknell | ESPN+* 6 p.m.
Sunday, Feb. 21 Lehigh at Loyola Maryland | ESPN+ TBA
Wednesday, Feb. 24 American at Loyola Maryland | ESPN+* TBA
Wednesday, Feb. 24 Holy Cross at Boston University | ESPN+ TBA
Saturday, Feb. 27 American at Bucknell | ESPN+ 2 p.m.
Saturday, Feb. 27 Boston University at Army West Point | ESPN+ TBA
Saturday, Feb. 27 Lehigh at Lafayette | ESPN+ TBA
Saturday, Feb. 27 Navy at Loyola Maryland | ESPN+* Noon
Saturday, Feb. 27 Holy Cross vs. Colgate (site TBD) | ESPN+ TBA
Sunday, Feb. 28 Bucknell at American | ESPN+ 4 p.m.
Sunday, Feb. 28 Boston University at Army West Point | ESPN+ TBA
Sunday, Feb. 28 Lafayette at Lehigh | ESPN+ TBA
Sunday, Feb. 28 Loyola Maryland at Navy | ESPN+* 4 p.m.
Sunday, Feb. 28 Holy Cross vs. Colgate (site TBD) | ESPN+ TBA

There likely will be a few more makeup games scheduled for early March.




 
jkrun80 
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02-13-21 05:48 PM - Post#320736    
    In response to jkrun80

Good game between Lafayette an Loyola. Headed to their 3rd OT.

 
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