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Username Post: Around the Patriot League 2020-21        (Topic#24344)
jkrun80 
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01-18-21 08:22 PM - Post#319496    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

If Boston U has any basketball fans, they're probably more upset than our fan base.

 
Bison137 
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01-18-21 08:34 PM - Post#319497    
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I think their fan base can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Hockey ranks 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. That's why they play in a 1500 seat HS gym and have never sold out a regular season PL game.

Btw, the PL's triumverate of poor X's and O's coaches - Joe Jones, Brett Reed, and Nathan Davis - has a combined record of 4-14 this year. That's despite having good basketball traditions at all three schools.




 
Bison89 
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01-19-21 11:16 AM - Post#319503    
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  • Bison137 Said:
I think their fan base can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Hockey ranks 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. That's why they play in a 1500 seat HS gym and have never sold out a regular season PL game.

Btw, the PL's triumverate of poor X's and O's coaches - Joe Jones, Brett Reed, and Nathan Davis - has a combined record of 4-14 this year. That's despite having good basketball traditions at all three schools.



Just to confirm, 137, was that a negative comment about Coach Davis?
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
Bison54 
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01-19-21 11:48 AM - Post#319504    
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I would point out that ND succeeded against the other two in his only opportunity, while BR failed.

Against other opponents, BR and JJ had one success each, none for ND.


 
Bison137 
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01-26-21 09:32 PM - Post#319797    
    In response to Bison54

Army's positive covid test causes Colgate to have both games cancelled for the second consecutive week.




 
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01-27-21 11:39 AM - Post#319811    
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  • Bison137 Said:
Army's positive covid test causes Colgate to have both games cancelled for the second consecutive week.


Wow, that’s harsh! I take it the Patriot League’s protocols on this are far beyond what other leagues have. After all, Texas just played a game while Coach Shaka Smart was sidelined with a positive test.

 
Bison137 
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01-27-21 11:58 AM - Post#319812    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

First, I probably didn't word my post correctly. Colgate's games were cancelled because their opponent, Army, had a Tier 1 positive test and had to shut down. But I think you are correct that the PL is being more conservative.




 
nitlion 
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01-27-21 01:45 PM - Post#319819    
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one thing with the service academies, their players are much more likely to interact with so many more fellow students then your average school, Bucknell etc. i am guessing as part of cadet company for required drill and other daily, weekly activities, they would run the chance of contracting a virus more easily. I am not sure if the academies sent entire corps home for break. Bucknell student body returning this weekend for 2nd semester. only in the past two weeks have student athletes, joined the basketball players and wrestlers on campus, i would estimate maybe 150 total today, and the rest by next Monday, i think they figure 750 to 800 athletes of the 3600 student body.

 
Bison137 
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01-27-21 02:53 PM - Post#319824    
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Speaking of harsh, UConn has had their next two men's games postponed because an official in their last game - who was wearing a mask - has tested positive. Given that studies have shown transmission is rare in game situations, shutting down their program for ten days seems a bit over the top to me.

Btw, it appears that their opponent in that last game, Butler, is not shutting down.




 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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01-27-21 04:33 PM - Post#319830    
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Did anyone else watch Army-Navy on Sunday and envy the couple dozen people there enjoying it from the stands? More academy exceptionalism?

https://twitter.com/BisonRdWarrior/status /13545235...

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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01-27-21 04:56 PM - Post#319831    
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Boston University (BU) announces it is pausing all athletic activities for the remainder of January "due to a rise in positive COVID-19 tests as the Boston University campus repopulates for the spring semester."

The change has prompted some schedule rearrangements, one of which will get Colgate back on the court the weekend:
https://patriotleague.org/news/2021/1/27/patrio t-l...

 
Bison137 
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01-27-21 05:04 PM - Post#319833    
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More schedule changes:

Colgate, who was going to be off again this weekend due to Army's positive test, will now play at Holy Cross. HC was scheduled to play Boston U, but "due to a rise in positive COVID-19 tests as the Boston University campus repopulates for the spring semester, the BU Department of Athletics and its varsity programs will immediately undergo a pause of all athletic activities for the remainder of January. "

It does not appear either Boston U basketball team had a positive test.

EDIT: Delayed posting and BRW beat me to it.




 
nh2032 
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01-31-21 02:24 PM - Post#320011    
    In response to Bison137

Loyola - Navy game today lost to the snow. From the Loyola website looks like they may be trying to make it up Tuesday.

I've lost track, but don't Loyola still have their 4 games from the first 2 weekends left to reschedule as well?

 
Bison137 
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01-31-21 02:58 PM - Post#320012    
    In response to nh2032

Yes, Loyola's first four games were all cancelled. I thought they would likely make up a game with American during the week, but now Loyola instead is making up its game with Navy.

Btw, Loyola just got back their good PG, Isaiah Hart. Just in time to play the Bison.




 
Bison137 
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01-31-21 05:13 PM - Post#320034    
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Lafayette and Loyola cancelled their women's game, scheduled for today, yesterday afternoon. The LC press release said:

" The Lafayette vs. Loyola women's basketball game scheduled for Sunday at 4 p.m. has been postponed due to weather considerations. Pennsylvania's Department of Transportation has imposed travel restrictions, which includes commercial buses, on the interstate roadways beginning on Sunday at noon. "


It only took a minute on the internet to see that this was blatantly false. There were no travel restrictions at that time and, if any were added Sunday, they don't apply to commercial buses with chains or Alternate Traction Devices (ATD’s).

LC seems to have one of the least transparent Athletics Departments, but I have no idea why they'd have to make up a story like this.




 
Bison137 
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02-01-21 05:02 PM - Post#320106    
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PL announcement of schedule revisions:

The Patriot League has announced rescheduled contest dates for American, Loyola Maryland and Navy men's and women's basketball, in addition to one Lafayette women's basketball game. The Army West Point vs. Holy Cross men's basketball games scheduled for Saturday, Feb. 6 and Sunday, Feb. 7 have also been postponed.

The second game from the Lafayette vs. Loyola Maryland women's basketball series, originally scheduled for Jan. 16 and Jan. 17, has been moved to Wednesday, Feb. 10. The Leopards will host the Greyhounds at 7 p.m. The first game of the rescheduled series was played at Loyola Maryland's Reitz Arena on Saturday, Jan. 30.

The American and Loyola Maryland men's and women's basketball series', previously scheduled for the season's opening weekend of Jan. 2 and Jan. 3, will be played over consecutive Wednesdays on Feb. 17 and Feb. 24. The Loyola Maryland and Navy men's and women's basketball games, originally scheduled for Jan. 9 and Jan. 10, will be played on Saturday, Feb. 27 and Sunday, Feb. 28.


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The PL may be painting themselves into a corner due to their failure to be proactive. The Navy-Loyola games could have been made up on earlier Tuesdays and Wednesdays - an easy thing to do since the schools are so close. Instead they are waiting until the final weekend. So what happens when there are more postponements, involving teams much further apart, and the weekend has already been taken?




 
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02-03-21 09:00 AM - Post#320137    
    In response to Bison137

Last night’s snow-makeup Navy at Loyola game was postponed “due to an inconclusive COVID-19 test within the Navy men's basketball program’s Tier 1.”


 
Bison137 
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02-03-21 01:33 PM - Post#320151    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

Lehigh has also paused for two weeks.

The Navy-Loyola game is one more example of why PL teams should be squeezing in every possible game whenever they can. Those two schools are 35 miles apart. Highly likely they could have played early Sunday but just assumed they could make up the game on Tuesday. Now Loyola has five games to make up - three with Navy and two with Lehigh. I doubt their games with Lehigh will ever be played.




 
nh2032 
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02-03-21 03:50 PM - Post#320163    
    In response to Bison137

And the cancellations keep on coming. Bucknell and Navy positive tests. Changes coming to next weekend too I'm assuming to prioritize what games get made up and which don't?

Based off the previous experience I assume lab error has already been ruled out this time...

https://bucknellbison.com/news/2021/2/3/bucknel l-m...

Edited by nh2032 on 02-03-21 03:51 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Bison54 
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Re: Around the Patriot League 2020-21
02-03-21 05:23 PM - Post#320169    
    In response to nh2032

Are Bucknell cancellations related to Lehigh games this past weekend? Wouldn't be surprised. With the strict PL rules it seems likely that teams will have trouble meeting the threshold for NCAA tournament participation. As 137 points out, failing to reschedule games for midweek early on will likely lead to big disappointments for some really good teams (AKA Bison women). And the seniors are unlikely to be back even with the extra eligibility granted by the NCAA.


 
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