Bison137
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07-30-20 06:53 PM - Post#310994
Nate is reportedly signing with Kyiv-Basket of the Ukranian Superleague. Kyiv = Kiev, which is one of the ten largest cities in Europe.
Although the Ukranian league is mediocre, two of its teams - including Kyiv-Basket - are ranked among the top 64 in Europe. Kyiv is #56. Kyiv-Basket had advanced to the quarter-finals of the Europe Cup back in March when that competition was cancelled.
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08-02-20 04:27 PM - Post#311093
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I think the most important part is Nate continuing his career. Once he’s playing on the continent, the bigger clubs will gobble him up if they like what the see.
Dude has come along way from Elk County!
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res
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08-02-20 06:06 PM - Post#311094
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Cameron County.
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bison75
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08-02-20 10:23 PM - Post#311098
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You’re both right. He was born in Elk County and went to high school in Cameron County. 😀
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Bison137
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08-02-20 11:46 PM - Post#311099
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Elk County, with a population of almost 30,000, is a highly populated area as compared to Cameron County's 4492,
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Bison89
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Re: Nate Sestina 08-03-20 10:30 AM - Post#311105
In response to Bison137
Nate is reportedly signing with Kyiv-Basket of the Ukranian Superleague. Kyiv = Kiev, which is one of the ten largest cities in Europe.
Although the Ukranian league is mediocre, two of its teams - including Kyiv-Basket - are ranked among the top 64 in Europe. Kyiv is #56. Kyiv-Basket had advanced to the quarter-finals of the Europe Cup back in March when that competition was cancelled.
Nate, good luck in the Ukraine. Please continue to make us proud!
BTW, we have a family friend whose daughter studied ballet in Kiev for several years. She said that it was so cold that there would be ice on the inside of her apartment windows. So, bring lots of warm clothes.
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Bison137
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10-13-20 12:05 PM - Post#314812
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Nate ended up not going to the Ukraine and will instead play in Russia's top league for Nizhny Novgorod. That city, which was renamed Gorky during the time of the Communist dictatorship, is a few hours east of Moscow on the Volga. During that era, it was a main center for military research and production, and thus foreigners were banned. Population is around 1.3 million.
https://sportando.basketball/en/nate-sestin a-inks-...
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Bison89
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10-14-20 10:00 AM - Post#314878
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I imagine that this is a good move for Nate. Good luck!
BTW, according to Google Maps, it is about a 7 hour drive from Nizhny Novgorod to Moscow. It looks pretty isolated to me.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Nizhny+Novgo rod,+N...
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Bison137
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10-14-20 01:10 PM - Post#314886
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Isolated but in a metro area of 2.1 million people. It was one of the host cities for the last World Cup of soccer.
It is 263 miles from Moscow btw.
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BisonFan4
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11-19-20 02:45 AM - Post#317027
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Nate's going to Brooklyn!
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Bison137
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11-19-20 09:02 AM - Post#317029
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Nate's going to Brooklyn!
Can you give us some more information about this? Thanks.
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11-19-20 09:57 AM - Post#317033
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He signed an Exhibit-10 contract. Whatever that means.
https://twitter.com/jonchep/status/132932 937724771...
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BisonFan4
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11-19-20 10:35 AM - Post#317035
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It's a one yr deal at the league minimum with an optional bonus if the player doesn't make it in camp but stays with the organization's G league team
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Bison137
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11-19-20 11:23 AM - Post#317039
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Here is an article from last summer on what an Exhibit 10 contract is:
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2019/07/hoops-rumors- g...
Brooklyn’s G league team is the Long Island Nets, who played in Nassau coliseum last year. Where they will end up this year is unclear, as the Nassau coliseum has been closed indefinitely as they try to find a new owner. That also affects the Islanders, who were supposed to play in the Coliseum this season.
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Bison89
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11-19-20 05:34 PM - Post#317074
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It is still unclear to me how much Nate's base salary will be. Is it the NBA minimum which is over $800k, or is it the G League minimum which is TBD?
https://kentuckysportsrad io.com/basketball-2/nate-...
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Bison137
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11-19-20 07:39 PM - Post#317085
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It's the NBA minimum only if he makes the team. Given that the Nets will have at least 15 experienced NBA players in camp - likely more - his chances of making the NBA team are very low.
The only thing that could raise the probability above zero would be a Nets' trade for James Harden, with them giving up four players. Even then, it would be very unlikely since the Nets would be one of the league's top teams, with three of the league's top players, and could thus attract veteran free agents to play for the veterans' minimum (which is over $2 million).
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Bison89
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11-20-20 09:40 AM - Post#317104
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So, is he being paid the league minimum, which is over $800k, while in camp? Also, if he ends up in the G-League, does he have the option of going to Europe instead?
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Bison137
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11-20-20 11:03 AM - Post#317125
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So, is he being paid the league minimum, which is over $800k, while in camp? Also, if he ends up in the G-League, does he have the option of going to Europe instead?
1. Definitely not getting a league minimum. Players on his kind of deal receive a negotiated amount for training camp that I think can range from $0 to $50,000 - plus room and board.
2. He is under no obligation to report to the G League if he has a normal contract. However if he does, he may receive a bonus.
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Bison89
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11-20-20 11:32 AM - Post#317128
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Got it. Thanks!
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BisonFan4
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11-20-20 09:45 PM - Post#317148
In response to Bison89
Exhibit-10 deals are one-year contracts for the league minimum salary. The deals come with an optional bonus of up to $50,000 if the player doesn't make it in camp but is assigned to the team's G-League affiliate.
According to everywhere I've looked it is in fact at the league minimum
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nh2032
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11-21-20 08:22 AM - Post#317152
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The issue is that Exhibit 10 contracts are not guaranteed. So while the salary is the league minimum unless Nate actually ends up on the NBA roster it's not substantially different than a training camp invite with a potentially easier path to the G-League.
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Bison89
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11-22-20 12:13 AM - Post#317164
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Exhibit-10 deals are one-year contracts for the league minimum salary. The deals come with an optional bonus of up to $50,000 if the player doesn't make it in camp but is assigned to the team's G-League affiliate.
According to everywhere I've looked it is in fact at the league minimum
I think that it is the league minimum if they make it on the team.
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Bison137
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12-02-20 09:23 PM - Post#317548
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The Nets released their official preseason roster today. It includes 16 experienced NBA players who already have contracts, plus one with an NBA two-way contract plus their second round draft pick, who was the SEC Co-POY as a soph PF/C this past season at Mississippi State. He will stick either on the regular roster or, at worst, on a two-way contract.
Thus, absent a James Harden trade where multiple players go the other way, or an incredible run of serious injuries, there is absolutely no space on the Nets' roster. But it will be good experience.
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12-02-20 09:48 PM - Post#317549
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The best Nate can hope for is a G-league contract and see where it goes from there.
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Bison137
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12-18-20 04:28 PM - Post#318119
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Forgot to post the other day that Nate was waived by the Nets. If he wants it, he should have a spot on their G-League team. As I understand it, that league will play a modified schedule in a bubble in Georgia this year.
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Bison54
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12-18-20 04:31 PM - Post#318120
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That gives some credibility to the name "G League."
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Bison137
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02-01-21 11:57 PM - Post#320117
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Nate is on the Long Island Nets 12-Man Roster
They open their 15-game G-League schedule next week. All games are being played at the ESPN facility at Disney World.
Will be interesting to see how much playing time he gets. There are some pretty good players on the roster.
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02-02-21 12:38 PM - Post#320124
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This link is the current 12-man roster. Yes, will be interesting to see his playing time and performance.
https://longisland.gleague.nba.com/news/long-islan...
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02-02-21 10:17 PM - Post#320132
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extensive article on the team with good info about Nate and his role
https://www.netsdaily.com/2021/2/1/22261382/lon g-i...
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02-02-21 11:31 PM - Post#320135
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Except for this silly phrase:
"Sestina, who has been a journeyman throughout his time in the collegiate circuit..."
Makes it sound like he played for four different schools.
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Bison137
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02-09-21 09:23 PM - Post#320504
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Article on Nate: Rookie Nate Sestina ready to impress with Long Island Nets
His first game is tomorrow night. For those who are interested, all but one of his games are available on ESPN+, with the only exception being carried by ESPNU.
Full regular season schedule: https://gleague.nba.com/schedule/#/team/longi sland
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02-09-21 10:03 PM - Post#320512
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Seems a lot of 3-pt attempts are in Nate’s future.
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Bison89
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02-10-21 10:14 AM - Post#320529
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I seem to remember that the Sixers' Shake Milton got his start in pro ball with their G League team in DE. So, there is definitely a clear path to the NBA for Sestina: play well, play often, and score a lot in the G League. Also, some injuries on the Nets would probably lead to opportunities for G League players to showcase their skills.
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02-10-21 10:06 PM - Post#320589
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Nate had a solid game tonight, in 19 min he had 12pts 3reb 2 assists and a team leading +12
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02-11-21 06:09 AM - Post#320593
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I watched the 1st quarter and thought Nate looked pretty good. Had a couple drives to the basket where he looked reasonably quick in addition to the expected pick & pops from 3.
Two G League novelties from the game.
The other team had 4 (or 5) players unavailable due to breaking quarantine rules and had to dip into the pool of pre-screened players already in the bubble to make numbers for their first game. G League teams are used to restore disruption by their nature, but that's probably an extreme.
The G League is also experimenting with a new way of handling foul shots to speed up the game. If you get fouled on a 3 you shoot 1 shot worth 3 pts, fouled on a 2 one shot worth 2 pts, etc. Over a large enough sample the expected value of a trip to the line should work out the same, but in a game setting could introduce some variance. They do revert to the traditional approach at the end of the game.
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Bison137
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02-11-21 12:17 PM - Post#320625
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The G League is also experimenting with a new way of handling foul shots to speed up the game. If you get fouled on a 3 you shoot 1 shot worth 3 pts, fouled on a 2 one shot worth 2 pts, etc. Over a large enough sample the expected value of a trip to the line should work out the same, but in a game setting could introduce some variance. They do revert to the traditional approach at the end of the game.
Interesting. I didn't know that. The G League first started talking about making this change about seven years ago. They estimated it would eliminate five minutes of dead time from a game. One stat, which doesn't surprise me, is this:
"the D-League brandished stats that showed that players convert the second of a pair of free throws at a better rate than the first (for D-Leaguers, 71.1 percent vs. 76.3 percent; for NBA players, 73.2 percent vs. 77.7 percent). The trend holds for three-shot trips, as well, as players get progressively more proficient from the first to third attempts."
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Bison137
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02-17-21 04:27 PM - Post#320889
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Nate got his second consecutive start, although his total minutes have continued to be in the range of 19 mpg. Ended up with 8 points (2-4 on threes), 3 rebounds, 2 assists. Those are all close to his season average.
Video of a putback dunk:
https://twitter.com/nbagleague/status/136 209596610...
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02-25-21 01:08 PM - Post#321166
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Nate had his best statistical game of the season in a 101-94 win yesterday. Went 5-12 on threes, ending up with 17 points and 5 boards in 20 minutes. He did not attempt any two-point shots.
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Nate Sestina 02-25-21 04:45 PM - Post#321181
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Nate had his best statistical game of the season in a 101-94 win yesterday. Went 5-12 on threes, ending up with 17 points and 5 boards in 20 minutes. He did not attempt any two-point shots.
Video: https://twitter.com/nbagleague/status/136 477123606...
The announcers figured out how to pronounce his name halfway through the game.
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07-27-21 09:00 AM - Post#325524
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Sestina will be playing with Utah in the NBA summer league
https://twitter.com/ukcoachcalipari/statu s/1419841...
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08-10-21 12:08 AM - Post#325877
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Nate put up some decent #s for only 13 min of pt in Utah's win tonight. 8 points, 5 reb, 2 blocks & 1 assist.
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Bison137
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08-10-21 12:21 PM - Post#325894
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https://twitter.com/CatsCoverage_/status/ 142494648...
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08-10-21 03:10 PM - Post#325915
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What a sequence!
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08-10-21 03:55 PM - Post#325919
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Wow, good for Nate!!
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Bison89
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08-11-21 08:00 AM - Post#325940
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That's the way to show your skills!
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08-17-21 06:48 PM - Post#326133
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Nate was listed as “DNP- Not with team†for today’s game against Philly. Bummer since it is the last summer league game.
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