internetter
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09-16-20 05:51 PM - Post#313472
Sources: College hoops season to start Nov. 25 https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/story...
via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app
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bradley
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09-18-20 08:13 AM - Post#313578
In response to internetter
The overall favorable trend regarding college football and the NBA may help to convince IL Presidents to go forward with the college basketball season but time will tell. Additionally with some exceptions, schools that are having students on campus seem to be managing the situation fairly well.
Never sure about the IL but it is very likely that the Power 5 conferences will be playing BB this winter. Scheduling is probably going to present significant challenges. With limited number of players on BB squads, a player(s) contacting COVID during the season will also be a major challenge. It would certainly seem like the risk of contacting COVID is in the dorms vs. on the floor based on the NBA season.
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penn nation
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09-18-20 11:06 AM - Post#313586
In response to bradley
The NBA has a bubble, as does the NHL.
Short of having a bubble, it is challenging to imagine a viable scenario of how college basketball could safely take place.
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SomeGuy
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09-18-20 11:57 AM - Post#313588
In response to bradley
It was spreading fast in the NBA back in March, before the bubble. Yes, it isn’t spreading in the NBA now, but I presume that is because you can’t spread it sweating and breathing on each other if nobody has it, and the bubble environment more or less prevents anyone from contracting it anywhere else.
Not sure how college basketball can pull it off — multiple bubbles with distance learning and just conference play? Limit OOC play to tournaments where a bubble could be maintained for groups of games?
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Pantone291
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09-18-20 12:54 PM - Post#313594
In response to SomeGuy
Rob Browne at Ivy Hoops Online has an interesting suggestion for a bubble
http://ivyhoopsonline.com/2020/08/16/could-an-i vy-...
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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09-18-20 12:55 PM - Post#313595
In response to SomeGuy
It's remarkable how the cycle keeps repeating itself. Cases slow down and then plans are made in hopes of light at the end of the tunnel, and it seems to be that this light is attached to an oncoming train. Self fulfilling prophecy?
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penn nation
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09-18-20 01:11 PM - Post#313597
In response to Pantone291
That Cornell scenario, of course, presupposes that the surrounding area can handle any Covid cases that may arise in Ivy athletes while there.
This assumes that the incidence and hospitalization rates will not increase. Yes, the Ithaca area does have some medical facilities but you're still in a relatively remote area that could get swamped over the winter.
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bradley
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09-18-20 07:07 PM - Post#313630
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
If, big if, NCAAF gets thru the season with minor hiccups, it might provide decision makers with important information. It would seem that college football has greater risks associated with the number of players and physical contact. A wild card is certainly the winter months vs the fall months as to when the sports are played.
It has been somewhat surprising so far as to how well college football teams have managed the process and there are far more moving parts than basketball.
Time will tell but decision makers should consider facts vs. theory.
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SomeGuy
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09-18-20 11:17 PM - Post#313638
In response to bradley
Not a fact, but a theory: I think basketball is likely more dangerous for transmittal than football. Football is short bursts where you are in physical contact and breathing on each other. In basketball, you’re basically doing that the whole game. If the guy you’re guarding has COVID, I think you’re going to get it too.
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bradley
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09-19-20 07:10 AM - Post#313639
In response to SomeGuy
Maybe but NBA play, so far, does not suggest that COVID is being spread on the floor. College dorm life could be the most significant exposure but somehow most colleges are navigating through it -- not sure how but numbers are number.
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SomeGuy
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09-19-20 09:05 AM - Post#313641
In response to bradley
But again, the NBA isn’t spreading it because of the bubble. You can’t spread it on the floor if nobody has it. If anybody had it, I suspect you would see it move on the floor very quickly.
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mrjames
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09-19-20 06:50 PM - Post#313645
In response to SomeGuy
I think the key for the decision makers involved is to maintain flexibility as long as possible. Not having to worry about at large bids is actually a huge advantage here. Just need enough time to decide a league winner. I don’t see how the league plays a non-conference slate, though...
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PennFan10
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09-21-20 02:22 PM - Post#313698
In response to mrjames
The NFL and MLB are better examples than the NBA with their bubble. The NFL has has very minimal infection rates, despite traveling to cities and living at their repsective homes or hotels during travel.
That is because they have daily testing and everyone wears contact bracelets, which allows you to isolate anyone who has been within 12 feet of someone (who is also wearing a braclet) who comes back with a positive test. This is expensive but has been effective.
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