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BisonRoadWarrior 
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10-30-20 12:38 PM - Post#315735    
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"He expects the schedules for both Holy Cross teams to be more regional, with HC playing more games against teams that are closer geographically."

Sounds like the league may do a North-South split, with, say, Holy Cross playing Colgate four times or something???

 
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10-30-20 02:03 PM - Post#315740    
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Yes, it sounds like that. The problem for HC is that it is not at all close to most PL schools. When they fly to the DC/Baltimore schools, that is an easy trip (and cheap) - but I don't know if the PL will let them fly.

Driving time from HC to Colgate, btw, is 3:50.




 
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10-30-20 03:39 PM - Post#315743    
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By what rationale are Army and Navy excepted from a general league ban on nonconference play? Is it somehow essential to national security? An additional reward for their future military employment?

"The Patriot League 2020-21: Saluting military service while demonstrating cowardice in the face of a virus with a 99%+ survival rate for those under 70."

 
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10-30-20 03:55 PM - Post#315745    
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...and 94.6% for those 70+.

 
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Report: No Nonconference Play for Patriot League
10-30-20 04:00 PM - Post#315746    
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I think the only rationale is that the leaders of Army and Navy refused to submit to the lack of leadership being exhibited by the rest of the PL when it comes to dealing with athletics. I imagine they just said something like this: "We're playing. Athletics are important, and we think a modest OOC schedule can be done safely. It's silly for other schools to tell us what to do when we know a lot more about our situation than outsiders do."

I think Army and Navy would be willing to leave the PL, if necessary, rather than be dictated to in an area that really is none of the PL's business.




 
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10-30-20 06:22 PM - Post#315753    
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Maybe they will limit traveling long distances and maybe play some teams once during conference play. Back in 2004 or so, they use to play Friday and Sundays. I can see them doing something like that where they would play Army and Colgate away
the same weekend. Also Boston and Holy Cross can
be figured for traveling as well.

 
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11-02-20 12:10 PM - Post#315841    
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  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
"He expects the schedules for both Holy Cross teams to be more regional, with HC playing more games against teams that are closer geographically."

Sounds like the league may do a North-South split, with, say, Holy Cross playing Colgate four times or something???


I don't see how a North-South split would work. Navy, Loyola, and American are clearly South. They're not going to split up Lehigh and Lafayette, so they would go in the South. That leaves Bucknell in the North and having to travel more that 3.5-6+ hours to every away game?

 
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11-02-20 12:33 PM - Post#315843    
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Yes, there is no good way to split the league geographically if required transportation is by bus. The only "good" option is if the league lets the Boston-area schools and the D.C./Baltimore schools fly to games. In that case, you could have an Eastern section of Holy Cross, Boston, Navy, American, and Loyola, plus a Western section of Bucknell, LU, LC, Colgate, and Army.

It is fairly cheap for Holy Cross, for example, to fly to D.C. Right now round-trip tickets in early January between Boston and D.C. range from $75 (Spirit) to $91 (Jet Blue) to $97 (American and United). There are over 30 direct flights with round-trip fares less than $100. That arrangement would likely minimize total league travel time. A flight to DC from Holy Cross is a lot quicker than a bus ride to Bucknell.




 
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11-05-20 10:19 AM - Post#316027    
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Navy's football game this weekend was just postponed because of positive COVID tests on the team.

Edited by Maryland Bison on 11-05-20 10:19 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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11-05-20 05:51 PM - Post#316075    
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Philly Inquirer story around coaches’ opinions about the best way to proceed:
https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports/villan ova/...

 
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Report: No Nonconference Play for Patriot League
11-09-20 11:14 AM - Post#316238    
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PL announced in-conference games only this year starting 01/02 with games being played against the same school in consecutive days. For example: Bucknell is playing Navy on Jan 2 and Jan 3.

The Academies get to do whatever they want and play full schedules.

https://bucknellbison.com/news/2020/11/9/mens-b ask...
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bison75 
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11-12-20 08:26 PM - Post#316634    
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With Covid numbers surging, the Ivy League has canceled all winter sports. I do not think they will be alone if the virus gets as bad as the models project. Let us hope we still have a conference season.

 
Bison54 
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11-12-20 10:24 PM - Post#316642    
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How far behind will the Patriot League be????
I put it at about 87%


 
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11-13-20 05:58 AM - Post#316648    
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  • bison75 Said:
With Covid numbers surging, the Ivy League has canceled all winter sports. I do not think they will be alone if the virus gets as bad as the models project. Let us hope we still have a conference season.



They also announced that Fall sports will not be played in the Spring.

More details:
https://www.inquirer.com/college-sports/penn/i vy-l...
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