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Username Post: 50 Years Ago        (Topic#24914)
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01-21-21 10:06 AM - Post#319583    
    In response to 13otto

Got this in the email yesterday:

Save the Dates! In order to celebrate the Penn Men's and Basketball Ivy League Championship Anniversary teams this year, we will be showcasing a game from each anniversary team on the Penn Sports Network YouTube page throughout the winter through our Penn Virtual Basketball Season.

Despite not having live games at the Palestra, we have put together an all-star lineup of noteworthy games from different championship teams in Penn Basketball history. We hope you enjoy these playbacks and are able to reminisce about some of the best days of Penn Basketball!

5th Anniversary of the 2015-16 Women’s Basketball Ivy League Champions
62-60 win at Princeton on 3/8/16
Thursday, January 28th at 7pm ET

15th Anniversary of 2005-06 Men’s Basketball Ivy League Champions
57-55 win at Yale on 3/3/06
Thursday, February 4th at 7pm ET

20th Anniversary of 2000-01 Women’s Basketball Ivy League Champions
73-70 win vs. Yale on 3/3/01
Thursday, February 11th at 7pm ET

25th Anniversary of 1995-96 Men’s Basketball Ivy League Co-Champions
63-49 win vs. Princeton on 3/5/96
Thursday, February 18th at 7pm ET

40th Anniversary of 1980-81 Men’s Basketball Ivy League & Big Five
Co-Champions
67-62 vs. La Salle on 2/17/81
Thursday, February 25th at 7pm ET

50th Anniversary of the 1970-71 Men’s Basketball Ivy League & Big Five Champions
“The Perfect Season Documentary”
Thursday, March 4th at 7pm ET


 
13otto 
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01-23-21 02:56 PM - Post#319683    
    In response to 13otto

50 years ago today, #4 Penn clinched the Big championship when it defeated #14 Villanova, 78-70, for its 15th straight win. Dave Wohl talked about the game and the rivalry. The second half of the WPHL-17 TV broadcast (color) has been posted on YouTube.
http://www.letsgoquakers.com/


 
final479 
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01-24-21 02:24 PM - Post#319709    
    In response to 13otto

This was a treat to watch. Very, very talented Penn team.

 
OldBig5 
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01-24-21 07:56 PM - Post#319721    
    In response to 13otto

Greatly enjoyed watching that. Thanks Otto.

Al Meltzer and Charlie Swift on the call. Several future pros out there on both teams.

 
Kwaequer 
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01-25-21 06:18 AM - Post#319732    
    In response to OldBig5

The game got a lot better when they put in the shot clock.

 
palestra38 
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01-25-21 06:28 AM - Post#319734    
    In response to Kwaequer

Agreed---in particular, the end game before the shot clock was horrible.

But for what ever reason, we did not go 4 Corners when we had an 8 point lead against Duke with 8 minutes to go in '78, and strategy called for it.

 
weinhauers_ghost 
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01-25-21 04:03 PM - Post#319748    
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  • palestra38 Said:
Agreed---in particular, the end game before the shot clock was horrible.

But for what ever reason, we did not go 4 Corners when we had an 8 point lead against Duke with 8 minutes to go in '78, and strategy called for it.



Remember what a slog it was to play our mortal adversaries up in Central Jersey before the advent of the shot clock?


 
palestra38 
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01-25-21 05:20 PM - Post#319752    
    In response to weinhauers_ghost

I think I lost much of my tooth enamel grinding my teeth during those games.

 
weinhauers_ghost 
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01-26-21 08:18 AM - Post#319753    
    In response to palestra38

  • palestra38 Said:
I think I lost much of my tooth enamel grinding my teeth during those games.



The way I always described their offense to people who were unfamiliar with college basketball in that era is that they would run the offense for two or three days, waiting for a defender to either fall asleep, lapse into a coma or die, then they'd score.


 
final479 
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01-26-21 11:26 AM - Post#319772    
    In response to weinhauers_ghost

Entirely different game without the shot clock and three pointer. It emphasized different skill sets and strategies.

 
Kwaequer 
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01-26-21 11:33 AM - Post#319773    
    In response to final479

Was it 1985 when they brought it to college ball?
I do recall how excruciatingly painful it was to watch Princeton’s weave.

 
SteveChop 
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01-26-21 12:05 PM - Post#319775    
    In response to Kwaequer

I believe the 3 point shot was introduced in Winter 1985-86, i.e. the year after 'Nova won their first title in 1985. There was DEFINITELY no shot clock then.

 
palestra38 
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01-26-21 12:24 PM - Post#319777    
    In response to final479

Yes, less skill and strategy that was tough to watch, especially in end game. The only reasonable argument concerns the length of the shot clock, not whether it should exist

 
final479 
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01-26-21 01:55 PM - Post#319780    
    In response to palestra38

I don't recall the timing, but I think the NCAA was trying to achieve a balance between the shot clock (being pushed by the power conferences) and the three pointer (which was thought to benefit the small schools - who were now disadvantaged by not being able to go into slowdown - and would have a weapon to stay competitive).
Also the shock clock came in phases - it was 45 seconds originally and they turned it off in the last few minutes before the halves.
Of course this was before the advent of analytics. Now the three pointer is the focal point of most offenses.

 
13otto 
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01-29-21 03:56 PM - Post#319933    
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50 years ago this week, #4 Penn survived its closest scare of the season, against Princeton at the Palestra, winning 66-62 in overtime. Trailing 56-49 with 2:19 remaining in regulation, the Quakers rallied to tie the game, thanks to a Corky Calhoun 22-foot buzzer-beater. Only a few seconds of film footage exists from that game, but here is a link to the original WXPN audio for the final 0:32 of regulation, plus a Corky Calhoun interview, merged with some still photos and newspaper clippings. The .mpg file might take a half minute or so to load. Corky recently talked about that game-winning shot, as well.
http://www.letsgoquakers.com/


 
OldBig5 
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01-31-21 09:44 AM - Post#319997    
    In response to 13otto

The shot clock was good for the game but I still loved Bilsky and Wohl dribbling away the end of those games.

 
13otto 
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02-07-21 10:57 AM - Post#320376    
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50 years ago this weekend, #4 Penn improved to 18-0 when it swept Cornell and Columbia. The Lions came into the Palestra tied for first place at 5-0, having upset Princeton, 53-50 at Jadwin, the night before. Senior center Jim Wolf scored a season-high 18 points against Columbia.
http://www.letsgoquakers.com/


 
Lefteroo 
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Re: 50 Years Ago
02-07-21 12:49 PM - Post#320389    
    In response to SteveChop

Steve, as I recall, the key call in the OSU game turned out to be a block/charge involving Corky. It went in our favor and was ironically called by the Big Ten official, not Steve Honzo. I recall the ref's name being Roger Parrymore, but certainly can't swear to it. I did have a great seat for the game, right in front of my radio.

 
LyleGold 
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Re: 50 Years Ago
02-08-21 09:22 PM - Post#320461    
    In response to Lefteroo

Amazing. Here’s the guy:
https://www.thepilot.com/news/features/making- the-...

 
SteveChop 
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02-08-21 11:04 PM - Post#320462    
    In response to LyleGold

If Lyle has the right guy, he couldn't have officiated our game vs. Ohio State in 1971. He would have been EIGHTEEN years old. Also, the article that Lyle attached says he did not reach the Big Ten until he was 27 years old (which would have been 41 years ago). That would have been in 1980 so I think that Gary's recollection is not correct. I tried looking for a box score of the game but couldn't find one. In another thread, I believe someone said that Hal Grossman was the other referee - part of the deal was that Penn could name both referees. Gary - seems to me that this is a good question for our Q/A forum on March 23.

 
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