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Username Post: Lafayette Games 1/9 & 1/10        (Topic#24992)
nh2032 
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01-09-21 08:25 AM - Post#318885    

Still feels weird with no games midweek, but at least when they come they show up like London buses.

Game article unsurprisingly has no injury updates given how late anything was announced against Navy.

Game Article

 
Bison137 
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01-09-21 11:51 AM - Post#318887    
    In response to nh2032

LC’s Justin Jaworski is leading the nation in scoring thus far with 32.5 ppg. Small sample size of course.

Jaworski is an example of how you never know. In high school, he had exactly 2 offers: Lafayette and American. He ended up second team All-PL last year and likely will be first team this year.




 
MrPhillie 
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01-09-21 01:02 PM - Post#318889    
    In response to Bison137

Yeah, we could use a Jaworski. I’m going to be positive, but after watching last weekend’s awful overall play, it is a tall task.

 
bison63 
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01-09-21 05:11 PM - Post#318904    
    In response to MrPhillie

Wow! First TO, all Lafayette. Bucknell doing absolutely nothing. Continuing their miserable shooting streak.

 
MrPhillie 
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Lafayette Games 1/9 & 1/10
01-09-21 05:12 PM - Post#318905    
    In response to bison63

Just ugly. Winning a game this year may be very difficult. Obvious Meeks is a huge key for this team. I knew he was important but this offense is atrocious without him.

 
bison63 
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01-09-21 05:26 PM - Post#318906    
    In response to bison63

Horrendous!

 
Bison54 
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01-09-21 05:28 PM - Post#318907    
    In response to bison63

Horrendously ugly



 
bisonmania 
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01-09-21 05:30 PM - Post#318908    
    In response to Bison54

JV team.

 
nh2032 
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01-09-21 05:39 PM - Post#318909    
    In response to bisonmania

Theoretically we need all the offense we can get, but Deuce's defense is pretty atrocious.

 
bison63 
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01-09-21 05:50 PM - Post#318910    
    In response to nh2032

What offense? I have not seen him make a shot from the field, other tha layups, that was even close. Hopefully he comes around eventually but for now , omg!

 
MrPhillie 
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01-09-21 05:51 PM - Post#318911    
    In response to nh2032

So many deficiencies. Rebounding this game is horrid, particularly allowing 14 offensive boards. Defense is allowing a ton of wide open shots. Offense is even worse than last weekend with 11 turnovers already and terrible shooting. Some of these attempts look so out of sync and awkward. Excellent job by the staff preparing the team as well.

 
NoMoney89 
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01-09-21 05:52 PM - Post#318912    
    In response to nh2032

Ugh. At least we held jaworski much below his average. Not that it helped at all. More disappointed in the body language and perception. At the same time, I cannot personally imagine playing in the situation that COVID-19 has put us in. Here is hoping for a respectable 2nd half


 
bison63 
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Lafayette Games 1/9 & 1/10
01-09-21 05:53 PM - Post#318913    
    In response to bison63

Btw, I’ve enjoyed this announcer on the women’s games, but on this game he comes across as a soso student announcer. Maybe ESPN has given him tha jitters.

Edited by bison63 on 01-09-21 05:54 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
HuskyColonial 
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01-09-21 06:15 PM - Post#318914    
    In response to bison63

I’m speechless.

 
Bison54 
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01-09-21 06:34 PM - Post#318915    
    In response to HuskyColonial

this is worse than Paulsen's first year


 
bison63 
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01-09-21 06:47 PM - Post#318916    
    In response to Bison54

I’m just going by what I see! And what I see is Turner can’t shoot. 3 game sample now. The kid needs to find whatever it was he had in HS.

 
Bison54 
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01-09-21 07:00 PM - Post#318918    
    In response to bison63

Other scoring threats?


 
HuskyColonial 
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01-09-21 07:16 PM - Post#318919    
    In response to Bison54

The other team. No one plays defense and the offense is nonexistent.

It’s awful coaching. Period. No way to sugar coat it.

 
Bison54 
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01-09-21 08:03 PM - Post#318920    
    In response to HuskyColonial

Contrast with the women. They came ready to play and gave no quarter. Another solid game for the Bison Ladies.....Congratulations.


 
Bison137 
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01-09-21 08:40 PM - Post#318922    
    In response to Bison54

The team today looked relatively disinterested. And the coaching staff as usual appeared disinterested. Not a good combination.




 
MrPhillie 
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01-09-21 09:18 PM - Post#318926    
    In response to Bison137

Shaping up to be a good year not to watch in person. Except, why will next year be any different? While possible, it is hard to imagine anything crazy happening this year to suddenly begin winning games. Meeks is good but he’s not Superman.

 
jkrun80 
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Lafayette Games 1/9 & 1/10
01-10-21 01:58 PM - Post#318944    
    In response to MrPhillie

If it were up to me, I would start Screen, Latimer, and Rhodes today. They were at least playing with some energy.

Edited by jkrun80 on 01-10-21 01:59 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
DrBison 
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Re: Lafayette Games 1/9 & 1/10
01-10-21 02:24 PM - Post#318947    
    In response to jkrun80

The team has shown a lot of deficiencies so far, but in my opinion the worst are a lack of leadership and mental and physical toughness.

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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Re: Lafayette Games 1/9 & 1/10
01-10-21 03:03 PM - Post#318955    
    In response to DrBison

  • DrBison Said:
The team has shown a lot of deficiencies so far, but in my opinion the worst are a lack of leadership and mental and physical toughness.

Yes, there's a concerning lack of communication between teammates, most notably during dead-ball moments on the floor, such as after fouls are called.

 
bison63 
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01-10-21 03:57 PM - Post#318961    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

As far as I am concerned I have no idea why Newman started over Screen yesterday. Screen has simply been the most dominant Bison on the floor when he is in. This team isn’t going anywhere, so give Screen the chance to develop in the actual fire, and let Newman back him up when he has foul problems. Btw, I do not think Screen would have missed all of those layups that Newman did yesterday, but my opinion re: the two of them is not anti Newman, it is pro Screen. He is the future in the middle. Make him the man right now and stick with it.

 
jkrun80 
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01-10-21 04:52 PM - Post#318962    
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  • bison63 Said:
As far as I am concerned I have no idea why Newman started over Screen yesterday. Screen has simply been the most dominant Bison on the floor when he is in. This team isn’t going anywhere, so give Screen the chance to develop in the actual fire, and let Newman back him up when he has foul problems. Btw, I do not think Screen would have missed all of those layups that Newman did yesterday, but my opinion re: the two of them is not anti Newman, it is pro Screen. He is the future in the middle. Make him the man right now and stick with it.


I agree. I don't know how you go 2-6 when all your shots are within 2 feet of the basket. And Screen is a better FT shooter. Paul has struggled with shooting for four years and it's not getting any better.

 
HuskyColonial 
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01-10-21 07:32 PM - Post#318969    
    In response to jkrun80

I’ve seen this movie.

 
MrPhillie 
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01-10-21 07:39 PM - Post#318970    
    In response to jkrun80

This team just doesn’t look like a team. There is just a different feel this year than any other, beyond just not playing well. Not being there in person to watch player interaction on the bench, during timeouts, communication and body language on the court...it’s hard to tell if there is leadership anywhere on the team. Hard to tell how competitive they want to be.

 
HuskyColonial 
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01-10-21 07:53 PM - Post#318971    
    In response to MrPhillie

Phillie, I’m not poking the bear but how do they look any different than last year? Last year was the same mess. A bunch of individuals running around with no leadership or focus. Lots of panic 3’s, no patience or movement without the ball on offense, and defensively atrocious. That was last season.

 
MrPhillie 
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01-10-21 07:56 PM - Post#318972    
    In response to HuskyColonial

Certainly there are a lot of those similarities. Maybe it just looks worse on TV. At least in person last year I would get a glimpse every now and then that somebody cared.

 
HuskyColonial 
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01-10-21 08:05 PM - Post#318973    
    In response to MrPhillie

Gotcha.

 
HuskyColonial 
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01-10-21 08:07 PM - Post#318974    
    In response to HuskyColonial

All I know is the guy who “can’t shoot” is single handedly keeping us in a game that everyone looks like they quit playing 30 minutes ago. Maybe Rice has said “F$&@ it” I’ll just do all I can?

 
jkrun80 
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01-10-21 08:11 PM - Post#318975    
    In response to HuskyColonial

To his credit, Newman looked like a different player in the 1st half.

 
HuskyColonial 
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01-10-21 08:12 PM - Post#318976    
    In response to HuskyColonial

I can’t see this team winning more than 2 games. The over/under would be 1.5 if I were setting odds.

 
HuskyColonial 
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Lafayette Games 1/9 & 1/10
01-10-21 08:13 PM - Post#318977    
    In response to jkrun80

Agreed. Played with touch yet aggressively. Displayed more composure. Then he stopped.

Edited by HuskyColonial on 01-10-21 08:14 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
MrPhillie 
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01-10-21 08:13 PM - Post#318978    
    In response to jkrun80

I can’t see us stopping Lafayette. Yesterday Laf didn’t shoot exceptionally well, yet we still got blown out. Today, Laf is shooting better and we are on the verge of getting blown out.

 
HuskyColonial 
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01-10-21 08:25 PM - Post#318979    
    In response to MrPhillie

Funk is not an asset at the point. He pulls the trigger wildly.

Lafayette may be shooting lights out in this sample but we can’t play defense worth a lick in the full data set. Dating back to last year. Meanwhile our head coach paces while no doubt planning to change nothing in his approach to the next game.

And there was no bad officiating this game but nothing that would have changed the outcome.



 
Bison54 
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01-10-21 08:27 PM - Post#318980    
    In response to MrPhillie

Mike Muscala's cutout would play with more emotion


 
HuskyColonial 
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01-10-21 08:29 PM - Post#318981    
    In response to Bison54

One positive is that things are opening up offensively now that we’re down by 20.

 
DrBison 
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01-10-21 08:39 PM - Post#318983    
    In response to HuskyColonial

I don’t know what game you’re watching...but we have played hard and fought and battled. Lafayette is pretty good!

 
MrPhillie 
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01-10-21 08:42 PM - Post#318985    
    In response to DrBison

Rice is playing great. I would start Latimer over Ellis.

 
HuskyColonial 
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Lafayette Games 1/9 & 1/10
01-10-21 08:46 PM - Post#318986    
    In response to DrBison

You’re joking right? Sarcasm?

Edited by HuskyColonial on 01-10-21 08:49 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
jkrun80 
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01-10-21 08:52 PM - Post#318987    
    In response to DrBison

  • DrBison Said:
I don’t know what game you’re watching...but we have played hard and fought and battled. Lafayette is pretty good!


Good to see them playing to the end. They came back a couple of times in this game, but the lapses are too frequent and too long. Very impressed with Latimer. Glad to see him on the court at the end. Rice had a great game. He is a bright spot this weekend. Lafayette looked very good today. They're going to be a handful. I would not be surprised to see them in the championship game.

 
bison63 
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01-11-21 02:07 AM - Post#318994    
    In response to MrPhillie

  • MrPhillie Said:
Rice is playing great. I would start Latimer over Ellis.


Yes! YES! YES! Re: Latimer vs Ellis!

 
Bison89 
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01-11-21 02:27 PM - Post#319004    
    In response to Bison137

I have not posted a whole lot this season. Having nothing good to say, I'll take the high road . . . for a while.
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
bison63 
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01-11-21 04:46 PM - Post#319036    
    In response to Bison89

I don’t suppose we can console ourselves by virtue of having played two of the leagues best 4 teams ( maybe best 3 , not so BFF sure about Boston anymore).
Also, I wonder if Ellis is not better suited to coming off the bench as a 3 point shooter. He seemed to hit for a higher % that way. Anyway, I’ve seen enough of him as a starter.

If we do not win a game this week, we probably never will.

 
jkrun80 
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01-11-21 05:28 PM - Post#319039    
    In response to bison63

It could be worse. Boston lost to Colgate by 44 yesterday. Colgate looks much more like a championship team than Boston, despite their loss to Army last weekend.

 
Bison137 
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01-11-21 09:19 PM - Post#319082    
    In response to jkrun80

  • jkrun80 Said:
It could be worse. Boston lost to Colgate by 44 yesterday. Colgate looks much more like a championship team than Boston, despite their loss to Army last weekend.




One interesting stat from that game. Boston hit an incredible 1-29 from three point range. A little bit of that was due to the Colgate defense, most most of it was just atrocious shooting. Colgate in the meantime hit 45% of their threes.

If you equalize the three-point shooting, which often is fairly random from one game to the next, that accounts for about 36 points of the margin. Colgate also had a bit of an edge on the boards.







 
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