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Username Post: Around the Patriot League 2021-22        (Topic#25359)
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07-07-21 08:52 PM - Post#325179    

Santi Aldama of Loyola, who likely would have been the league's preseason POY, has decided to go pro. There is a chance he could be taken late in the second round, but it is more likely he will go undrafted and end up playing in Spain.

With Aldama gone, Loyola likely will be picked for the middle of the pack, instead of being viewed as a contender for first. They could be better, however, if the 6-9 Serbian twins they are bringing in are better than expected. Hard to tell since they didn't play HS ball in 2020-21.


https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1 412777989...




 
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07-13-21 07:44 PM - Post#325293    
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Loyola just moved up the preseason ladder, adding
Andrej Jakimovski, a 6-8 transfer from Washington State. Jakimovski, who is from Macedonia, started 19 games for WSU as a frosh and played over 25 mpg. He had 19 points in a game vs Stanford.

This is the type of player the current staff should be working hard to land, as opposed to the current strategy.




 
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07-14-21 08:37 AM - Post#325296    
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There’s a current strategy?

 
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07-14-21 04:54 PM - Post#325311    
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You’re negativity gets old. Why don’t you guys find another program to nit pick, criticize, and find fault with anything and everything that happens. Go Bison!

 
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07-15-21 08:28 AM - Post#325320    
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It’s difficult to make the realization your favorite team is in a state of free fall. Your cognitive dissonance doesn’t make it less true and won’t stop anyone from commenting on the shot show that is men’s basketball.

With the exception of OldBison who makes fun of athletes suicidal thoughts and depression, most people on this board direct their anger at the coach and administration. Totally appropriate for any sports discussion board.



 
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07-15-21 09:40 AM - Post#325324    
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Of course we all realize that the program is trending down and no loyal fan is happy about that. Neither are the coaches or players. As for the faculty and academic Administration, my observation is they don’t really care. But the constant finger pointing and cheap shots get old and in some cases are misdirected and not based on facts.

 
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07-15-21 09:57 AM - Post#325326    
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So what’s the current recruiting strategy? Sorry that comment triggered you but do you have any idea what positions the staff is recruiting? It seems very dart board to me.

 
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07-15-21 10:26 AM - Post#325330    
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They are trying to recruit the best players possible who can meet basic academic requirements and be accepted. Admissions, faculty, and the administration are not going to make the financial commitment via scholarships and accept transfers or new players who can’t meet or don’t even make the effort to meet basic academics standards.

 
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07-16-21 11:10 AM - Post#325355    
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As for me, Bucknell is my alma mater and as an alum I want their teams to do well. I think that describes many, if not most people following this board. If the administration “ doesn’t care,” maybe it is because they know that with the direction the NCAA is going Bucknell can no longer compete on a national level, and the days of doing so are probably behind us.

But whether the negativity is justified or not, it does get tiring and is the main reason I have gone from practically living on this board to just checking in occasionally.

 
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07-29-21 11:48 PM - Post#325652    
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Aldama ended up being picked in the first round. Pick #30 to the Grizzlies.

 
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07-30-21 09:44 AM - Post#325659    
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From what I read, this was a huge surprise pick and is being heavily criticized. But I wish him well.

 
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07-30-21 06:38 PM - Post#325697    
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Yes very surprising. Sports Illustrated graded the pick as a D-. Most mock drafts had him going closer to #60 or going undrafted. I assume the Grizzlies intend to stash him in Spain for a couple of years while he develops.

According to ESPN, Aldama had every intention of staying in Spain, meaning he did not attend the 2021 NBA Combine and did not conduct any known workouts with NBA teams. He had a desire to "continue his career in Spain" and turned down Zoom interviews while in Spain to discourage teams from selecting him.

If a player is not drafted fairly early, it is often better to go undrafted in the NBA draft/salary structure.




 
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11-09-21 08:54 PM - Post#327893    
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Watching Lafayette/Syracuse on MASN. About what you’d expect - Lafayette down 22 at the half.

 
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11-09-21 11:59 PM - Post#327925    
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Nice win for Navy at #25 Virginia

 
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11-10-21 12:48 AM - Post#327929    
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Nice win for Navy at #25 Virginia



Won by eight points no less. UVA was projected to be significantly better than NC State.




 
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11-10-21 09:56 PM - Post#328009    
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Lehigh going to overtime at Rutgers.

 
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11-10-21 10:15 PM - Post#328017    
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Lehigh going to overtime at Rutgers.



Rutgers wins 73-70

 
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11-10-21 10:17 PM - Post#328019    
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Lehigh going to overtime at Rutgers.





Ended up losing by three. Soph Dominic Parolin, who Lehigh discovered late in his senior year in the Vancouver area, got 11 points and 14 rebounds. He is one of several late finds for Lehigh over the years who have worked out well. Brett Reid and staff work hard and are very good at getting commitments from players they only recently met. Thankfully BR is not much with the x's and o's.

Fifth year wing Marques Wilson had 21 points for LU. He is a player the Bison offered early, but LU got on him a few months later and closed the deal.




 
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Re: Around the Patriot League 2021-22
11-10-21 10:58 PM - Post#328048    
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For us Rutgers is another one that got away. Brett has new assistant from Memphis area. We're hoping he can help with the x's and o's. Good luck Sunday. My dad was a Bucknell and Temple alum, so no love here for Penn. And actually I may come up for the game. Are they insisting on masks in Sojka?

Edited by JimK_LU72 on 11-10-21 10:58 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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11-10-21 11:06 PM - Post#328056    
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Sorry I missed this post and started a thread. Good win for Navy and I noticed the spin offered by analysts regarding Virginia’s defensive struggles.

 
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11-10-21 11:06 PM - Post#328057    
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Dr. Brett Reid.

 
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11-10-21 11:14 PM - Post#328059    
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JimK, masks are required at Sojka unless you’re eating. Hope you come.

 
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11-20-21 07:29 PM - Post#329360    
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Colgate is up 7 at Syracuse under 12 to play. Will they break their 55 game losing streak vs Syracuse.

 
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11-20-21 07:52 PM - Post#329365    
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Colgate is up 7 at Syracuse under 12 to play. Will they break their 55 game losing streak vs Syracuse.




Now up five with four minutes left.




 
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11-20-21 07:53 PM - Post#329367    
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Colgate is up 7 at Syracuse under 12 to play. Will they break their 55 game losing streak vs Syracuse.




Now up 8 with 3 minutes left.




 
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11-20-21 07:58 PM - Post#329368    
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Unless they have a Sojka like collapse, this is over. Up 12 with 1:22 to play.

 
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11-20-21 07:58 PM - Post#329369    
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Only drama left is whether Syracuse can hold Colgate under 100. Congrats to Colgate Steve - from personal experience we know nothing feels as satisfying as a quiet Dome.

 
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Final score: Colgate 100, Syracuse 85. In the carrier dome.

And meanwhile, Saint Joseph’s has lost back to back home games to Drexel and Monmouth. I wonder if their brain-dead AD has figured out yet that hiring a failed coach like Billy Lange, instead of a really good coach like Langel, was a very bad idea.




 
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11-20-21 08:03 PM - Post#329371    
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Nelly Cummings with the exclamation point. 110-85. Happy for the Colgate players.

Edited by jkrun80 on 11-20-21 08:03 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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11-20-21 08:07 PM - Post#329373    
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Nelly Cummings with the exclamation point. 110-85. Happy for the Colgate players.



You’re too excited. Actually 100 to 85.




 
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11-20-21 08:17 PM - Post#329374    
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Final score: Colgate 100, Syracuse 85. In the carrier dome.

And meanwhile, Saint Joseph’s has lost back to back home games to Drexel and Monmouth. I wonder if their brain-dead AD has figured out yet that hiring a failed coach like Billy Lange, instead of a really good coach like Langel, was a very bad idea.



Absolutely. To think the Hawks missed it by the single trailing "L". Breaking a 54 game losing streak, I can't be happier for Colgate.


 
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11-20-21 08:18 PM - Post#329375    
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  • Bison137 Said:
  • jkrun80 Said:
Nelly Cummings with the exclamation point. 110-85. Happy for the Colgate players.



You’re too excited. Actually 100 to 85.


Trying to beat you to the punch, but I should know better.

 
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11-22-21 09:22 PM - Post#329585    
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Lafayette has Rutgers on upset alert. Leopards up by 7 with 12 minutes to go.

 
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11-22-21 09:41 PM - Post#329589    
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Lafayette has Rutgers on upset alert. Leopards up by 7 with 12 minutes to go.




Still up by one point with four minutes left. Lafayette thus far this year has played Syracuse, Duke, and Rutgers. They were crushed by the first two.




 
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11-22-21 09:58 PM - Post#329594    
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Final: Lafayette 53, Rutgers 51. LC hit a three with two seconds left.

Rutgers 4-26 on threes. LC 7-18. That was enough for LC to overcome a 23-9 turnover disadvantage.

Rutgers in its first four games:

- Eked out on home OT win over a weak Lehigh squad.
- Beat a weak Merrimack team at home after trailing through three quarters.
- Beat a mediocre NJIT after trailing at the half.
- Lost to a so-so DePaul team by three.
- Lost to a weak Lafayette team.

Not what Steve Pikiell had in mind. Rutgers ranked #38 and #28 (Pomeroy) nationally the past two seasons. Now they are #95.




 
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11-24-21 10:15 PM - Post#329809    
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Harvard hit a deep buzzer beater to force OT against Colgate and Harvard went on to win 89-84.

Now Boston just hit a buzzer beater to force OT at Florida State.

 
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11-24-21 10:30 PM - Post#329814    
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  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Now Boston just hit a buzzer beater to force OT at Florida State.


Florida State wins 81-80 on a putback layup with 2 seconds left.

 
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11-25-21 11:07 AM - Post#329825    
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  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Harvard hit a deep buzzer beater to force OT against Colgate and Harvard went on to win 89-84.






Replay of that shot: http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=3270993 7

The long three came after a Colgate player (Oliver Lynch-Daniels) opted to punch a rebound of a Harvard miss towards half court, even though he and another Colgate player were the only ones near the ball. Mental error that cost them the game. Having said that, I'd love for Bucknell to be in position to go to OT with even an average team.




 
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11-30-21 02:30 PM - Post#330185    
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Here is where the Pomeroy model currently ranks PL teams:

Colgate 126
Navy 132
Boston 150
Army 220
Lafayette 283
Bucknell 300
Lehigh 301
American 307
Holy Cross 340


Prior to this year, Bucknell was never ranked as low as 300.




 
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11-30-21 09:26 PM - Post#330214    
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Siena leads Army by 3 at the under 12 TO.

 
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Siena has extended the lead to 15 with 6:44 to play. Game is at West Point.

 
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11-30-21 09:59 PM - Post#330220    
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What is going on with Army They led at the half and are getting pummeled in the 2nd

 
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11-30-21 10:06 PM - Post#330221    
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2nd half: Siena 55 Army 34.

 
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What is going on with Army They led at the half and are getting pummeled in the 2nd


Army gave up 55 points in the 2nd half and shot poorly for long stretches.

 
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12-04-21 11:52 PM - Post#330658    
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The bottom four of the PL is likely the worst it has ever been - and sadly it includes the Bison. Today, Bucknell lost by 19 to Hofstra; Lehigh lost to a horrible UMES team (#347) at home; American lost to Howard (#260) by 34; and Holy Cross lost to a mediocre La Salle (#243) by 19. HC had lost to an awful Central CT team ( #348) the previous game.

At present, Lehigh is ranked #309, Bucknell #312, American #326, and HC #344 in the nation (Pomeroy), out of 358 teams (four of whom are just transitioning to D1).. Lehigh didn't graduate any players at all, so it is initially hard to figure out how they are as bad as they are - until one looks at the coach on the bench.




 
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12-05-21 09:13 PM - Post#330697    
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Lafayette lost today at home double OT to NJIT in a game that they lead much of.

 
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12-09-21 08:44 AM - Post#330982    
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American beat St. Francis PA by 10 last night at home.

 
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12-09-21 11:29 AM - Post#331010    
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Colgate is a 3 point favorite at Pittsburgh tonight. I can’t imagine it’s happened too often that a Patriot League school is favorite against an ACC team.

 
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12-09-21 11:54 AM - Post#331017    
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Colgate has a better record against ACC teams (1-1) so far than against the Ivies (1-2). Guess Vegas is expecting that to hold.

 
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12-09-21 12:06 PM - Post#331021    
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Colgate is a 3 point favorite at Pittsburgh tonight. I can’t imagine it’s happened too often that a Patriot League school is favorite against an ACC team.




Yes I’m sure you’re right. Of course it is very rare for an ACC team to be as bad as Pitt, who currently ranks #194 in Pomeroy’s ratings. Among their accomplishments this year are home losses to the Citadel and to UMBC. You have to go back to 2016’s Boston College team, which was winless in ACCBplay, to find a worse ACC team.

Back in 2005-06, the Bison were a small underdog at Syracuse - but on a neutral court (which is where the game was supposed to be played) they might have been favorites. And they were, deservedly, favorites at DePaul.




 
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12-11-21 08:55 PM - Post#331251    
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Lafayette didn't fare any better against Princeton than we did. Princeton led by 21 before they cleared their bench with 3 minutes to play. Lafayette's scrubs out scored Princeton's 10-0 which made it look much closer. (Game was at Lafayette.)

Holy Cross lost to Siena by 13 after trailing by as many as 19. Now 0-9.

American need OT to beat MSM.

And Colgate lost to Pitt by 3. They have lost 4 of 5 since beating Syracuse and have a tough stretch coming up vs. St. John's, Monmouth, & Vermont.

The PL is not good this year.

 
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We can’t post photos but I attended the Jacksonville University v. UNC Wilmington basketball game yesterday at Swisher Gymnasium on the JU Campus. Swisher seats 1,300 and is a smaller version of Davis Gym but steeped in history. Especially their NCAA Runner-Up season in 1970 lead by HOF Artis Gilmore.

To the point, in the past I saw a sizable difference in the quality of PL play versus the A-Sun which has consistently been a low major. That difference is gone and I think the portal is the reason. Both of the rosters yesterday were lead by big school transfers and 5th year eligible players.

 
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12-12-21 01:40 PM - Post#331280    
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[quote=HuskyColonial
To the point, in the past I saw a sizable difference in the quality of PL play versus the A-Sun which has consistently been a low major. That difference is gone and I think the portal is the reason. Both of the rosters yesterday were lead by big school transfers and 5th year eligible players.


I think you have hit the nail on the head. The refusal of Bucknell and other PL schools to allow 5th year students, or to limit them. is severely hurting the leagues competitiveness. The ease of transferring now is exacerbating the problem. Hopefully, it corrects itself when COVID eligibility is gone, but I fear there will be permanent damage.

 
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12-21-21 09:18 PM - Post#331719    
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Lehigh was down to Albany 36-12 at halftime. American down to GMU 34-18. The PL didn't fare much better on Sunday. Army lost to a poor LIU team 90-65, Holy Cross lost to Harvard, and Colgate lost to Monmouth 77-66 after trailing by as many as 19. That game was tied at halftime 36-36, but Colgate shot 8-11 from three to that point. The 2nd half was a different story. Colgate is now 3-8 vs. D1 teams and heads to Vermont for their last non-con game. They will quite likely enter PL play at 3-9.

Edited by jkrun80 on 12-21-21 09:41 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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12-21-21 09:45 PM - Post#331722    
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Fire all the coaches. They’re not “competent” and the programs “stink”.

 
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12-21-21 10:55 PM - Post#331727    
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One huge difference between Colgate and Bucknell. Colgate has played the 88th toughest out-of-conference schedule in the country. In contrast, Bucknell has played the 277th toughest schedule. Had Colgate played the Bucknell schedule, they would probably be more like 8-3.

Bucknell, btw, has moved up to 304th in the country. They have never finished a season with a ranking that bad.




 
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12-21-21 11:42 PM - Post#331728    
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Ok, but when the situation was reversed a few years back and we were playing the toughest non-league schedule, we were not going 3-9.

‘Nuff bout that, as for Richmond, a COVID cancellation might be a hoped for outcome.

 
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12-22-21 04:04 PM - Post#331754    
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  • Bison137 Said:
One huge difference between Colgate and Bucknell. Colgate has played the 88th toughest out-of-conference schedule in the country. In contrast, Bucknell has played the 277th toughest schedule. Had Colgate played the Bucknell schedule, they would probably be more like 8-3.

Bucknell, btw, has moved up to 304th in the country. They have never finished a season with a ranking that bad.

In fairness, they are also playing without Nelly Cummings. Imagine Bucknell playing without Andrew Funk.


 
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12-24-21 08:30 AM - Post#331825    
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Trying not to imagine us without Funk. That comes with visions of next year…..

Is Cummings out with serious injury or just short term?


 
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12-24-21 08:48 AM - Post#331826    
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Trying not to imagine us without Funk. That comes with visions of next year…..

Is Cummings out with serious injury or just short term?




Colgate unfortunately is providing limited information, only describing it as an upper body injury. The most common upper body injury that prevents players from suiting up is a concussion, but I have no idea if that is the case here.




 
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01-04-22 09:10 PM - Post#332314    
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Lehigh leads Colgate 55-54 with 13 minutes to play.

 
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01-04-22 10:27 PM - Post#332331    
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We can’t beat either. Who cares?

 
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01-04-22 11:05 PM - Post#332336    
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And in a shocker-thriller..... Lehigh 85, Colgate 81.

 
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Who cares?

 
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Fran O'Hanlon announces he's retiring after the season.

 
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01-21-22 04:42 PM - Post#333890    
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  • Maryland Bison Said:
Fran O'Hanlon announces he's retiring after the season.




He made it to age 73, which is a great feat. Only four other head coaches have been at the same school as long as Fran: Jim Boeheim, Mike Krzyzewski, Bob McKillop, and Tom Izzo. Lafayette always had a dangerous offense under FOH.




 
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01-21-22 11:57 PM - Post#333906    
    In response to Bison137

League Standings
Colgate 3-1 (.750)
Navy 5-2 (.714)
Loyola 5-2 (.714)
Army 5-2 (.714)
Lehigh 5-2 (.714)
BU (Boston University) 3-4 (.429)
American 1-3 (.250)
Lafayette 1-3 (.250)
Holy Cross 1-3 (.250)
Bucknell 0-7 (.000)

Based on what we saw in last year's league-mismanaged season, am I correct to assume there isn't a snowball's chance in hell Colgate, American, Lafayette and Holy Cross will make up those "postponed" games?

The tiebreaking procedure is found at the bottom of this page, but I don't grasp/remember how it works when teams have played a different number of games. Is a "tie" based on wins or winning percentages?
https://patriotleague.org/standings.aspx?path=mbba...

 
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01-22-22 02:02 AM - Post#333908    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
League Standings
Colgate 3-1 (.750)
Navy 5-2 (.714)
Loyola 5-2 (.714)
Army 5-2 (.714)
Lehigh 5-2 (.714)
BU (Boston University) 3-4 (.429)
American 1-3 (.250)
Lafayette 1-3 (.250)
Holy Cross 1-3 (.250)
Bucknell 0-7 (.000)

Based on what we saw in last year's league-mismanaged season, am I correct to assume there isn't a snowball's chance in hell Colgate, American, Lafayette and Holy Cross will make up those "postponed" games?

The tiebreaking procedure is found at the bottom of this page, but I don't grasp/remember how it works when teams have played a different number of games. Is a "tie" based on wins or winning percentages?
https://patriotleague.org/standings.aspx?path=mbba...




The league has already rescheduled some of the missed games - but it's a good bet not all will be played. The good news is that, unlike last year, the covid rate in much of the northeast has been falling rapidly the last ten days. Also with omicron typically being much milder, many people show no symptoms and aren't being tested. Also, although I haven't tried to keep track of it, I think the contact tracing and quarantine rules have become less onerous. Thus I expect fewer postponements than last year.

Thus far rescheduled games are:

1/24 AU vs LC
1/31 CU vs LC
2/14 LC vs CU (make up of January 22nd postponement)
2/21 AU vs CU

That leaves three Holy Cross games to be rescheduled: American (home), Lafayette (away), and Colgate (away). Not sure why they haven't been rescheduled. Either they are waiting because HC just emerged from a covid shutdown, or else HC is balking about having to travel midweek to Colgate (or AU is balking about traveling midweek to HC). Unfortunately the PL has tended to be spineless and can be bullied (and has been on occasion).

On the women's side, Boston U cancelled out of an early season game at Sojka, and that game has been rescheduled for a Wednesday. I will be surprised if Boston U shows up for that game. There will be covid, too much snow or ice on the roads or flu or an order from the mayor or maybe a gasoline shortage. But after having gotten away with what they did a few years ago to steal the softball regular season championship, they can't have any respect for the PL administration.




 
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01-22-22 05:03 PM - Post#333993    
    In response to HuskyColonial

Army just completed the biggest Division one comeback win since February 2020. They trailed Navy by 27 in the first half and won in overtime.

 
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01-22-22 06:39 PM - Post#334046    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

Wow. Navy not doing as well as I would’ve thought.

 
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01-28-22 09:09 PM - Post#334541    
    In response to MrPhillie

Holy Cross just nipped Lehigh in a game they tried to give away but couldn't. Current PL standings:

Navy 6 - 3
Loyola MD 6 - 3
Army 6 - 3
Lehigh 6 - 4
Colgate 4 - 2
Boston University 6 - 4
Lafayette 2 - 4
American 2 - 5
Holy Cross 2 - 5
Bucknell 1 - 8


Bison are closing in on the #10 seed and a historically worst season. In 31 years of PL play, the worst two PL records were 4-10 and 4-8. There are still four games remaining against very weak teams however.




 
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01-31-22 10:11 PM - Post#334895    
    In response to Bison137

Holy Cross upsets Boston on the road for their second win in a row. Colgate won easily at Lafayette. They now have a short turn-around for Wednesday's game. We need all the help we can get.

 
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01-31-22 10:37 PM - Post#334897    
    In response to jkrun80

Boston U did a bunch of promos to try to get a crowd to show up at The Roof for this CBS game. Looked like they were successful in getting about 450 people to attend.




 
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01-31-22 11:21 PM - Post#334901    
    In response to Bison137

Bucknell wished for 450 on Sunday.

 
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01-31-22 11:45 PM - Post#334902    
    In response to MrPhillie

  • MrPhillie Said:
Bucknell wished for 450 on Sunday.



True, but they had almost 400 - which is close to what PL favorite Boston U drew tonight. Boston was the PL champ in the last full season, so theoretically they should have fan support.




 
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06-22-22 01:51 PM - Post#342484    
    In response to HuskyColonial

Didn’t know best place to post so I added here. I see the Patriot League will have another entrant in The Basketball Tournament. Well, the Ex-Pats are kinda PL, with approx half the players having PL experience. Jimmy Sotos will be part of this year’s team. They received a #3 seed in their bracket…not sure how those are selected. Good luck to ‘em.

https://thetournament.com/teams/ex-pats-patriot -le...


 
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