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Bison137 
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11-20-21 06:11 PM - Post#329356    


BucknellBison.com article: https://bucknellbison.com/news/2021/11/19/mens- bas...

Illinois State game tonight. Then two more in Cancun.




 
Bison137 
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11-20-21 07:30 PM - Post#329376    
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Anyone know why Adoh is not playing tonight?




 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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11-20-21 07:38 PM - Post#329377    
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According to Birdsong in the pregame he’s out with an unspecified illness.

 
nh2032 
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11-20-21 07:54 PM - Post#329378    
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Good first half. Worried about how Screen went down at the end.

Was starting to wonder if Bascoe was trying to set the record for most minutes played without a FG attempt after none in the 1st 3 games and then he passed up two open opportunities early. Glad to see him get off to a 3-3 start for his career.

Have to admit I had to look up who #12 even was, but thought Brock put in some decent minutes given the circumstances.

 
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11-20-21 07:54 PM - Post#329379    
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  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
According to Birdsong in the pregame he’s out with an unspecified illness.



Hopefully no Covid outbreak.




 
nh2032 
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11-20-21 08:40 PM - Post#329383    
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Good news, Screen was healthy for the 2nd half. Bad news he fouls out with over 5 minutes to go. The 4th foul looked questionable but as usual he put himself in that situation with dumb fouls for #2 and #3 (and #5).

 
Paulie777 
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11-20-21 09:09 PM - Post#329386    
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Elvin! might as well save some time and start him now.


 
Bison89 
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11-20-21 09:26 PM - Post#329388    
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Has Bucknell ever scored 100 or more and lost before tonight? Pathetic defense.
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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11-20-21 09:27 PM - Post#329389    
    In response to Paulie777

Up by 5 with 38 seconds left and shooting a one and one and don’t win the game. Brutal.

 
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11-20-21 10:49 PM - Post#329393    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

Wow.

 
Paulie777 
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11-20-21 10:50 PM - Post#329394    
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  • Bison89 Said:
Has Bucknell ever scored 100 or more and lost before tonight? Pathetic defense.



I wonder if Davis shares this view and is kicking in lockers and chiding players or if he is taking an "aw shucks guys we'll get them next time" stance.



 
HuskyColonial 
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11-21-21 12:29 AM - Post#329397    
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I didn’t see the game because I went to a movie and dinner. The Bison scored 100 points and lost. What?

 
bison63 
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11-21-21 01:54 AM - Post#329398    
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Love the fact that the games are on ESPN, after the Stadium debacle, but I discovered something tonite. Had to watch on a delay, and did not start watching until after 11pm.As you may know, if you pause the telecast a white line appears at the bottom of the picture and it shows the point in the stream where you are, as well as the total length of the telecast. Typically a regulation college game is about 2 hours. Before the first half was over( remember I am watching after the fact, not live), I noticed that the telecast length of the game was 2 hrs and 28 minutes, and I knew right then the game was going to OT. So late in the 2nd when we started to fall behind, I knew we were going to come back. And conversely when we led by 5 with 38 secs to go, I knew we would not hold it. Where else can you learn stuff like this?

 
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11-21-21 08:19 AM - Post#329399    
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That was a tough one. Elvin blows the 1 and 1 then gets the put back to send it to OT. Good experience for him. He looks like he's going to be a good one. Great night for Funk. Let's hope Screen is OK.

 
MrPhillie 
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11-21-21 09:50 AM - Post#329403    
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Good offensive night for several Bison. I also feel Elvin will continue to be a solid contributor. Scoring 100 is quite an achievement, but so is losing when you score 100. Obviously, defense is lacking. Turnovers also hurt the cause. What was the Funk turnover in the final seconds before they lost the lead? I didn’t see the game but Screen with 6 turnovers and getting hurt and Xander shooting 1-14 are huge in an OT game.

 
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Re: Cancun Classic
11-21-21 01:52 PM - Post#329445    
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  • MrPhillie Said:
What was the Funk turnover in the final seconds before they lost the lead?


Rice inbounded to Funk who tried to pass it back to Rice. Ill St read the pass, intercepted and went in for a dunk. That was the play that gave them the lead with a few seconds left. It was the second turnover on an inbounds play in the last 30 seconds. We need some work dealing with a full court press.

 
Bison137 
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11-21-21 02:26 PM - Post#329463    
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  • Bison89 Said:
Has Bucknell ever scored 100 or more and lost before tonight? Pathetic defense.




I don’t remember that happening. They did lose to Cornell 104 to 98 in Paulsen’s second year. That was the game where Colin Klebon was nearly the hero as he came off the bench to play well against Cornell’s huge seven footer, after Muscala and Behan couldn’t handle him.

Cornell that year went 29-5, and was the 12 seed in the NCAA tournament.




 
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Re: Cancun Classic
11-21-21 03:41 PM - Post#329469    
    In response to jkrun80

Damn. What a bad turnover, at such an important time….especially by the only senior.

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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11-21-21 04:39 PM - Post#329479    
    In response to Bison89

  • Bison89 Said:
Has Bucknell ever scored 100 or more and lost before tonight?

Almost. The previous highest losing score in program history:
George Mason 101
Bucknell 99

Davis Gym, Dec 1, 1993


 
Bison137 
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Re: Cancun Classic
11-21-21 06:45 PM - Post#329494    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison89 Said:
Has Bucknell ever scored 100 or more and lost before tonight?

Almost. The previous highest losing score in program history:
George Mason 101
Bucknell 99

Davis Gym, Dec 1, 1993




That was the 2nd game for Paul Westhead’s run and gun coaching tenure at GMU.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1993...




 
jkrun80 
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Re: Cancun Classic
11-21-21 07:44 PM - Post#329499    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison89 Said:
Has Bucknell ever scored 100 or more and lost before tonight?

Almost. The previous highest losing score in program history:
George Mason 101
Bucknell 99

Davis Gym, Dec 1, 1993



That's really impressive. The Cornell game went to OT and was "only" 83-83 in regulation. Despite his defensive struggles, it was Muscala's first 20 point game at Bucknell.
https://bucknellbison.com/news/2009/12/2/209022 861...

 
Bison137 
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11-22-21 02:01 PM - Post#329556    
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Funk's 38 points, btw, is the 11th best scoring game in Bison history. He also had 76 points in seven days. I wonder how many BU players have done better in a one-week span.




 
Bison137 
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Re: Cancun Classic
11-22-21 02:05 PM - Post#329557    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison89 Said:
Has Bucknell ever scored 100 or more and lost before tonight?

Almost. The previous highest losing score in program history:
George Mason 101
Bucknell 99

Davis Gym, Dec 1, 1993





Looking back, I see that Bison team had three games where they scored 90+ points and lost. Also had a 110-108 win over Colgate.




 
Bison137 
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11-23-21 09:43 AM - Post#329606    
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Picture of the team by the beach at Cancun:

https://twitter.com/Bucknell_MBB/status/1 463149293...

Screen is in a boot. That's one thing this team doesn't need.




 
Bison89 
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11-23-21 12:34 PM - Post#329626    
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Not good.
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
nh2032 
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11-23-21 01:32 PM - Post#329628    
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Also not good - a month subscription to the streaming service for the today's and tomorrow's games is $30! Considering their app has all of 2.6 stars think I'll be passing.

 
Paulie777 
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11-23-21 02:17 PM - Post#329634    
    In response to nh2032

Timmerman is going to be spinning like a top with Mercer's 3 seniors coming at him. This is going to be a tough one. I hope Bucknell wins but I see a 78-63 win by Mercer.

 
Bison137 
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11-23-21 03:52 PM - Post#329673    
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Here's a question for long-time fans. The Bison starting lineup the other night had heights of 7-0, 6-9, 6-6, 6-5, and 6-3. Average height of exactly 6-7.

I believe that is the tallest lineup ever fielded by Bucknell. Can't think of a taller one for any PL team. Can anyone think of a taller Bison lineup?




 
Bison54 
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11-23-21 03:58 PM - Post#329674    
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Bison down five at the half. Screen is out; Timmerman has 10 pts, 3 RBs in 14 minutes and 0 fouls. Funk has 11;

Rider lost to Middle Tennessee, so the Bison need to pull this out unless they want to face Rider again.


 
bison63 
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11-23-21 04:12 PM - Post#329679    
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Meanwhile re: Screen, the ILL ST announcers completely missed the fact that he came out late in the first limping badly. He came back to play, but was obviously hobbled in the 2nd. That announcer team did not pick up on it until he was shown on screen with his foot wrapped in ice after fouling out.

 
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11-23-21 05:31 PM - Post#329685    
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Not happy to see Screen hurt, hopefully it is not a long-term thing. I had to look at the stats three times to be sure I read Timmerman’s line correctly. 22 points on 10-12 shooting with 8 boards. Nice game from him, did not see that coming. Unfortunately, too many players with minimal contributions.

 
Paulie777 
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11-23-21 07:19 PM - Post#329692    
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Timmerman is getting better and better each game. I knew he was going to do well but didn't want to jinx him.

 
Paulie777 
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11-24-21 12:59 PM - Post#329743    
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Did the message board get moved and nobody let me on to it? I'm not that bad of a guy. I'll change my ways. Have I been ghosted?

*crickets*

There is a game going on right now folks

 
Paulie777 
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11-24-21 01:09 PM - Post#329745    
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Bison137?
Husky?
Bison89?
Bison stu?

whats up with the board? Am I missing something?

 
nitlion 
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11-24-21 01:17 PM - Post#329746    
    In response to Paulie777

listening to "Bingo" Birdsong, we trailed at one time 14-2...now 44-33 the Bison lead at the end of first half. Screen not playing, Andoh played a little hit a 3.

 
nitlion 
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11-24-21 01:18 PM - Post#329747    
    In response to nitlion

44-39 at the half, me bad

 
bison63 
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11-24-21 02:28 PM - Post#329752    
    In response to nitlion

A definite “coulda/ shoulda” game.?Followed on game tracker. We scored our 73rd point with about 5 and a half minutes left and led by two. We did not score again until there were :40 left and we were down 7.

 
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11-24-21 02:51 PM - Post#329754    
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A quick look at the stats three things stand out: 16 turnovers, allowing 13 offensive rebounds, and a more typical 32% 3-pt shooting percentage (with Funk back to reality.) I think these will be issues all year.

Is Andoh hurt? Or does Davis see Motta as the better player? Timmerman doing more than what should be expected but need Screen back. Lack consistent inside presence, imo. We also have difficulty limiting penetration.



 
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11-24-21 05:19 PM - Post#329765    
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  • MrPhillie Said:
A quick look at the stats three things stand out: 16 turnovers, allowing 13 offensive rebounds, and a more typical 32% 3-pt shooting percentage (with Funk back to reality.) I think these will be issues all year.

Is Andoh hurt? Or does Davis see Motta as the better player? Timmerman doing more than what should be expected but need Screen back. Lack consistent inside presence, imo. We also have difficulty limiting penetration.






Adoh recovering from some undisclosed illness. Once he is recovered, I doubt Motta will take many of his minutes, as Adoh brings more to the table.




 
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11-24-21 07:51 PM - Post#329778    
    In response to Bison137

A few random observations.

1. Funk played 36 minutes on consecutive days. No wonder his shooting was a little off today.
2. Rhodes had 5 fouls in 7 minutes. Adoh had 3 in 4 minutes played.
3. Rice was 16-16 from the FT line in the two games.
4. If Funk, Rice, VDH, and Edmonds ever start hitting 3's in the same game, watch out.
5. Big Tim was 14-18 FGs for the two games.

 
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11-25-21 08:55 AM - Post#329821    
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I was traveling to Virginia for Thanksgiving and missed both games in a Cancun. Sorry Paulie.

It’s going to be a very long year. I’m glad the team hasn’t quit on the coach.

 
Bison137 
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11-25-21 09:56 AM - Post#329824    
    In response to HuskyColonial

The Bison are currently ranked 302nd in the nation. That is their worst in the scholarship era, with the exception of a 305 ranking last week. I think it's safe to say this is the worst BU team since the 1981-82 version. And that team ended the season with a lot of hope for the future.

Btw, with the exception of NC State, every Bison opponent thus far this year is ranked worse than #200.




 
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11-25-21 10:13 AM - Post#329826    
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One random Holy Cross stat: Against their D1 opponents, they have 29 assists and 71 turnovers. That may be the team the Bison need to beat out to avoid the cellar, although Loyola and Lafayette could be in play also.




 
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11-25-21 01:42 PM - Post#329831    
    In response to Bison137

What a difference for this program: playing to not be last.

I meant this to be not last in the PL, but looking at 137’s post, maybe it also means not being last in the country.

 
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Re: Cancun Classic
11-25-21 04:05 PM - Post#329837    
    In response to MrPhillie

  • MrPhillie Said:
What a difference for this program: playing to not be last.

I meant this to be not last in the PL, but looking at 137’s post, maybe it also means not being last in the country.



Things are bad enough without being overly dramatic, the Bison would be roughly a 16 point favorite on a neutral court against the lowest rated team in the country. And there are at least five teams vying for worst in the Patriot League.


 
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11-25-21 07:34 PM - Post#329843    
    In response to res

And majority of faculty, administration, President, and trustees could care less!

 
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11-25-21 09:45 PM - Post#329846    
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I can’t commit because I’ll be accused of being negative and thus people won’t log on to this board as much. Which is complete crap but let’s all be Pollyanna! Hooray!

 
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11-27-21 08:39 AM - Post#329867    
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  • Paulie777 Said:
Bison137?
Husky?
Bison89?
Bison stu?

whats up with the board? Am I missing something?



Paulie, I just woke up from 2 days of turkey induced coma. The only hoops that I've seen was the Duke vs. Gonzaga game last night. That was fun to watch.
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
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11-27-21 05:35 PM - Post#329878    
    In response to HuskyColonial

Due you mean Paulieanna777?


 
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