LocalTiger
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03-16-22 12:55 PM - Post#339372
In response to ToothlessTiger
Princeton may be a very different team next year. IF all are healthy,
you could see Kellman, Tosan and Johnson up front with
Allocco and Landborg at guards. Scott, Hooks, Martini
and Peters may be in the rotation. We will be bigger, more
athletic, but not shoot as well.
Mitch has seemed to favor small ball, but the talent may dictate otherwise. If you believe Tosan was playing out of position this year,
his production is even more remarkable.
lots of question marks, but they could be exciting and competitive.
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PennFan10
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03-16-22 02:09 PM - Post#339379
In response to LocalTiger
Tosan out of position? What position should he be playing?
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1LotteryPick1969
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03-16-22 04:39 PM - Post#339396
In response to PennFan10
My hope is that MH can find another unheralded star such as Tosan, Richmond, Schwieger, Stephens, Caruso, etc.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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03-16-22 04:39 PM - Post#339398
In response to Tiger81
As I mentioned in another thread, Yales' Jones deserves Coach of the Year for 'faciliting' the year off that brought back Swain, Gabiddon and Alausa.
Without them, Yale isn't dancing.
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PennFan10
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03-16-22 06:02 PM - Post#339403
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Alausa hasn’t played much this year but certainly Swain and the Unguardable Gabbidon were critical.
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LocalTiger
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03-16-22 06:44 PM - Post#339405
In response to PennFan10
I think Tosan lacks the bulk of a true center, which showed
on defense against some teams. like Maddox, he has the potential to lock down players at the other 4 positions. That was why he started as a freshman before developing his offensive game.
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weinhauers_ghost
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03-16-22 10:02 PM - Post#339413
In response to PennFan10
Wasn't Alausa injured for the bulk of the season?
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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Predictions for 2021-22 All-Ivy
03-16-22 10:21 PM - Post#339414
In response to weinhauers_ghost
But Yale without Swain and Gabiddon!
Of course, Yale with Atkinson in 2020-21 and Swain & Gabiddon as seniors would have dominated. Seriously. Like 14-0 good.
Atkinson with 16 points on 8-10 in first half vs Notre Dame in NCAA 11 seed play in game.
Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 03-16-22 10:21 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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PennFan10
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03-17-22 12:11 AM - Post#339418
In response to LocalTiger
I think Tosan lacks the bulk of a true center, which showed
on defense against some teams. like Maddox, he has the potential to lock down players at the other 4 positions. That was why he started as a freshman before developing his offensive game.
Ok. Again, which position would you play him? He can’t shoot so has to have space to get to basket.
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LocalTiger
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03-17-22 08:18 AM - Post#339423
In response to PennFan10
I think he plays the 4 in the Ivies and a wing at the next level.
I expect his game will continue to grow, and his range will improve.
spacing willl be more difficult next year with fewer shooters,
but Kellman and Hooks both showed some post skills in
limited time and Tosanfound ways to play with them.
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TigerFan
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03-17-22 12:47 PM - Post#339441
In response to LocalTiger
Princeton may be a very different team next year. IF all are healthy, you could see Kellman, Tosan and Johnson up front with
Allocco and Landborg at guards. Scott, Hooks, Martini and Peters may be in the rotation. We will be bigger, more athletic, but not shoot as well.
Mitch has seemed to favor small ball, but the talent may dictate otherwise. If you believe Tosan was playing out of position this year, his production is even more remarkable. lots of question marks, but they could be exciting and competitive.
Tosan was on the floor with other Tiger bigs early in the season and it seemed to work pretty well. In the double OT loss (ouch!) to Minnesota, for example, Mason Hooks played 15 minutes, scoring 8 pts, and Kellman played 12 minutes, scoring 7. Tosan played 47 (!) minutes, scoring 16. (He took 3 shots from deep, missing all of them.) Martini, another big body, started the game and played 12 minutes.
Mitch will have more pieces coming back next year than some people think. And for what it's worth, ESPN lists young Jack Scott as a 4 star recruit.
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palestra38
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03-17-22 12:52 PM - Post#339442
In response to TigerFan
I think we're going to see a lot of hack-a-Tose next year if he gets more touches, as is likely.
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LocalTiger
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03-17-22 01:04 PM - Post#339443
In response to palestra38
we will see. It's not that he did not have the ball much this year.
I will be surprised if his foul shooting does not improve.
But I guess if you can'y guard him, you have to try something.
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TigerFan
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03-17-22 01:07 PM - Post#339444
In response to palestra38
Knowing his work ethic, I'd be surprised if he doesn't shoot a ton of free throws during the off season and hit in the mid-60s to 70 percent range next year.
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PennFan10
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03-17-22 03:06 PM - Post#339447
In response to TigerFan
So he didn't work on his FT's this year? Would seem strange. A guy who wins a unanimous POY award, which clearly reflects his work ethic and his basketball skill, and then airballs 3 FT in a post season game has more issues with his shooting than just work ethic.
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1LotteryPick1969
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03-17-22 08:33 PM - Post#339469
In response to TigerFan
Martini, another big body, started the game and played 12 minutes.
He is the best three point shooter of the bigs, which should equate to PT, if he can play D.
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LocalTiger
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03-17-22 08:54 PM - Post#339473
In response to PennFan10
He went from a defender to the focus of the offense.
no air balls to the VCU game. He will be better next year.
It is more than a little sterange to read Penn funds focus on that weakness, while ignoring a UNANIMOUS POY.
He is better than Dingle, who the coaches all see as more flawed.
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palestra38
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03-17-22 09:30 PM - Post#339477
In response to LocalTiger
He's a different player---and you are ignoring that sophs just don't win POY. But offensively, Dingle is light years ahead.
Anyway, we have plenty of time to see what will happen next year. The objective fact is that Tose shot 56% from the line in a lot of shots--that's an obvious weakness. And he had far more help than Dingle. Next year will be different.
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Albert08
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03-17-22 09:58 PM - Post#339481
In response to palestra38
Tosan and Dingle were both freshmen in 2019-2020, and both have only played 2 Ivy seasons. Dingle is a soph because he took a gap year; Tosan is a junior because he did not. So don't argue that Dingle was passed over because, as a "soph" he's more inexperienced, and they don't give POY to sophs. Tosan was the better player in the eyes of those who voted for POY.
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TigerFan
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03-17-22 10:02 PM - Post#339482
In response to LocalTiger
PF is a pest. I imagine Tosan will tinker with his FT technique during the off season, something it wouldn’t be wise to do during the season.
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