Jeff2sf
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05-03-22 12:12 PM - Post#341030
In response to Jeff2sf
pf10, i would agree he could get on the floor with his athleticism. But maybe it's one too many Paul Reed watches by me lately but I feel like he could be a foul machine, not know where to be, etc. and undo all his good work with lots of bad just like Paul the Bball.
having said that, f rivers, morey and jordan.
Edited by Jeff2sf on 05-03-22 12:12 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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palestra38
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Re: Newest Penn Commitment
05-03-22 12:15 PM - Post#341032
In response to Jeff2sf
But Harden was to be the savior!
My view of this kid is that he has unbelievable athleticism and from his video, is not Abraham Okorududu. He can be a very good player at our level within a couple of years IMO.
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Buckeye Quake
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05-03-22 12:27 PM - Post#341034
In response to AsiaSunset
That's two and thanks for them. Both clearly have a much more positive assessment than what's being stated here.
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Buckeye Quake
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05-03-22 12:29 PM - Post#341036
In response to Jeff2sf
Amen!
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Penndemonium
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05-03-22 01:39 PM - Post#341042
In response to Buckeye Quake
The thing is that when you watch the video, he has quickness, moves, and athleticism like a power conference SF. His feet and hands are smooth. He soars on his athletic dunks. The ivies just don't have people doing that. I really like how in his highlights, he is immediately looking to go up with the ball rather than putting it on the floor. If he puts on some muscle, I'd keep him on the floor just as a defender and rim runner. He could be great for tips.
That said, it seems no one who has actually seen him seems to describe him as a ready product. We keep hearing the word potential. What we don't see on the highlights: What do his turnovers look like? What does his half-court defense look like? What does it look like when he puts the ball on the floor? How quickly does he read the defense? Can he hold his own on the defensive boards? Can he shoot facing the basket? How many of those hook shots (which look pretty decent) does he miss?
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palestra38
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05-03-22 01:41 PM - Post#341043
In response to Penndemonium
It looks to me like he is ripped. It's not muscle he needs--just some weight.
But I agree, he does things most Ivy big men don't do...something I loved about MLL from the first time I saw him. If only we can get him on the court.
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Penndemonium
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05-03-22 01:43 PM - Post#341044
In response to palestra38
MLL has athleticism, but not this level of explosiveness. MLL has pretty good vertical hops, but not this guy's lateral smoothness.
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Silver Maple
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05-03-22 01:44 PM - Post#341046
In response to palestra38
Athleticism is great. But the factors that will determine whether he becomes an effective player are how hard he's willing to work, how quickly he learns, and how well the coaching staff does in coaching him up. Without those things, he'll be nothing but potential.
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palestra38
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05-03-22 01:47 PM - Post#341047
In response to Penndemonium
That smoothness looks a bit slow for our level. I'm pretty confident he will learn and improve. I think MLL appears to be faster, if we ever put in an offense that took advantage of the guys we have who can run. But to reach our potential this year, we need to utilize a real big man who can protect the rim. That was the single most significant weakness of the team last year.
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TheLine
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05-03-22 03:00 PM - Post#341062
In response to palestra38
There's an awkwardness to his game on both ends of the court that will take a bunch of effort to iron out. He seems off-balance a lot, which is going to make it tough for him to defend without fouling.
It would be good if he has an offensive game that goes beyond dunks and layups.
His FT shot is different. Would like to know whether it works.
He is big and reasonably mobile, so there's that. You can't coach big.
Is there any full game tape of Ubochi in action?
BTW, tweets by internet recruiting personalities are worth the paper they are printed on. We should all know that by now.
Edited by TheLine on 05-03-22 03:02 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Penndemonium
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05-03-22 03:23 PM - Post#341065
In response to palestra38
I didn't see the same thing in terms of speed. I saw a springy runner, which we never get from someone 6'10.
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Actually just re-watched MLL's recruiting videos. He looked great too. Hope we can get him on court!
Edited by Penndemonium on 05-03-22 03:27 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Jeff2sf
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Re: Newest Penn Commitment
05-03-22 04:15 PM - Post#341068
In response to TheLine
This isn’t meant as a big criticism for your post but when you say it’s be nice if he had more than dunks and layups… I mean obviously true BUT I wonder how much he’d be allowed to do that in our heliocentric offense. Maybe all we want is a Dwight Powell to our Luka.
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UPIA1968
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05-03-22 05:00 PM - Post#341070
In response to Jeff2sf
Of course Penn is not going to get anything but a project at this late date in a recruiting year. With that in mind Christian clearly exceeds my expectations for late additions. Add one more player with some potential and this year's class would match up to the other Ivies. While that is short of our hopes for breakthrough recruiting, it give me hope for improvement next season.
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palestra38
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05-03-22 05:16 PM - Post#341071
In response to UPIA1968
The losses suffered by the other Ivy leaders and the return of MLL, along with the year of experience of a solid core of underclassmen almost certainly guarantees "improvement" for next year. I'm looking for more than that, regardless of the doom and gloom in here.
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Quake Show
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05-03-22 07:51 PM - Post#341078
In response to palestra38
Want to say I am happy that the staff was able to sign another recruit– and a big man at that.
From what footage I have been able to see: I like his footwork a lot, and echo what others have said in that he tends to go straight up with the ball. These are all good things that bode well.
However, I noticed that his team did not seem to face another big man in any of the highlights posted. He was at least 4-5 inches taller than his competition– not sure how that translates to matching up against other big men
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penn nation
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05-03-22 08:52 PM - Post#341081
In response to Quake Show
Just make sure that we schedule appropriately.
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Penndemonium
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05-04-22 03:07 AM - Post#341087
In response to penn nation
I re-watched MLL's high school tapes. He looked great back then too. Fingers crossed for both tomorrow.
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Penndemonium
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05-04-22 04:56 PM - Post#341121
In response to Penndemonium
I meant next year.
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palestra38
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05-04-22 05:05 PM - Post#341123
In response to Penndemonium
We know that you just cannot contain your excitement for next season.
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TheLine
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05-06-22 09:01 AM - Post#341174
In response to Jeff2sf
This isn’t meant as a big criticism for your post but when you say it’s be nice if he had more than dunks and layups… I mean obviously true BUT I wonder how much he’d be allowed to do that in our heliocentric offense. Maybe all we want is a Dwight Powell to our Luka.
I don't expect him to develop an outside game. Or even a Henry Brooks-ian mid game. There would need to be more variability to his inside game though, and it's not clear he has even that. Any guy his size can dunk over dudes a half-foot shorter but that's not what he'll be up against at the next level.
Maybe he has that game too, but you can't tell from the highlight reels.
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