AsiaSunset
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05-07-22 03:13 PM - Post#341195
Sam Brown frown Lower Marion High
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Stuart Suss
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05-07-22 03:17 PM - Post#341196
In response to AsiaSunset
Son of former Sixers coach, Brett Brown.
We have many fans of the Lower Merion Aces on this board. Will Sam Brown be a contributor or merely an AI filler?
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SteveChop
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05-07-22 03:46 PM - Post#341197
In response to Stuart Suss
Never seen him play so I can't offer any opinion.
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mbaprof
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05-07-22 06:53 PM - Post#341199
In response to SteveChop
This is from an alum who follows lm hoops
He can shoot. Very streaky though. Otherwise he's good but not great. I don't know if he's good enough to really be a starter at Penn. We'll see.
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Stuart Suss
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05-07-22 07:02 PM - Post#341200
In response to mbaprof
I have also spoken with an alum who follows Lower Merion Hoops.
This alum says that Brown is a left-handed equivalent to another recent Lower Merion grad, Jack Forrest, who went to Columbia, and has since transferred to St. Joseph's and now to Bucknell.
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nychoops
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05-07-22 07:36 PM - Post#341201
In response to Stuart Suss
I’ve seen him once. He’s crafty, nice stroke. Very skinny and will need to improve his D
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OldBig5
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05-07-22 10:59 PM - Post#341205
In response to nychoops
Sounds like Sam Jones.
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AsiaSunset
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05-08-22 07:14 AM - Post#341208
In response to OldBig5
From what I can see he goes very well to his left and will need to develop an ability to go equally well to his right. The only jr year stats I found were for the 1st 4 games where he averaged 25 points per game, shot 16 of 19 from two and 19 of 37 from 3.
Kind of reminds me of Danny Ainge ( not saying he’s the second coming of Danny Ainge)
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GoQuakersGo
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05-08-22 07:49 AM - Post#341209
In response to AsiaSunset
Here are some stats I found in an article:
https://papreplive.com/2022/04/12/presenting -2022-...
Sam Brown, Lower Merion – Junior guard, a first team All-Central League pick, averaged 15.8 ppg, and was a productive 3-point shooter, hitting 66 treys (40 percent of his attempts). Averaged 3.3 rebounds per game and converted 77.8 percent of his free throws.
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palestra38
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05-08-22 08:17 AM - Post#341210
In response to AsiaSunset
I'll take Ainge. LOL. I think this kid will likely need to fill out but should be a nice bench role player in a few years.
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besnoah
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05-11-22 12:31 PM - Post#341305
In response to palestra38
Nice article from Josh on the commitment:
https://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/...
I’ll cut somewhat against type and say that I think this is a more significant commitment than some folks are giving it credit for. Donahue’s stated and implicit goal of getting more local players has not totally panned out and I think this is a nice addition of a player who has/had a shot at getting bigger offers this summer.
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OldBig5
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05-11-22 07:05 PM - Post#341312
In response to palestra38
I'll take Ainge. LOL. I think this kid will likely need to fill out but should be a nice bench role player in a few years.
If he is another Ainge he can also play on the baseball team.
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Penndemonium
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05-11-22 09:26 PM - Post#341313
In response to OldBig5
Hopefully he is a sneaky good player like Betley was (as a recruit).
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Penndemonium
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05-12-22 04:06 AM - Post#341315
In response to Penndemonium
I passed some judgment about Sam Brown from watching a single video on YouTube. Brown looked skinny and soft but with a pretty good shot. What I didn't realize was that this was a Freshman year video. Even from that time to his sophomore year and now this season he looks like a completely different player. I won't say that he's a sure thing, but I his skills will translate very well at the next level. He has a good shot and an ability to create his shot with crossovers and step-backs. He also has a very aggressive moves to the hoop, and he extends his body to bypass his defender (like AJ used to do). He gets from the 3 point line to the hoop very quickly. In that way, he reminds me of Andy Toole - both could get downhill very quickly.
Even as a Freshman, it appears that he started for a very good team. He looked very composed and intelligent as a player. He did not stand out physically, but held his own reasonably. In his sophomore and junior year video, he looks like a key player.
I'm going to join Besnoah with a favorable outlook on Sam Brown.
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palestra38
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2023 Commitment
05-12-22 08:47 AM - Post#341322
In response to Penndemonium
If your comparison with Toole is accurate, it's a great signing. Toole turned a losing team with no direction into an instant 2-year Ivy winner. I will hope, and agree that watching video often is inaccurate for many reasons in predicting the quality of a recruit.
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Jeff2sf
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05-12-22 09:22 AM - Post#341327
In response to palestra38
i think videos are useless. I'm optimistic based solely on him doing well on a solid squad.
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PennFan10
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05-12-22 01:23 PM - Post#341351
In response to Jeff2sf
FWIW, he is a starter on an EYBL team and has shot 37% on the circuit from 3pt so far against HM competition in 2 events. Looks like his role on that team is 3 and D.
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Jeff2sf
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05-12-22 01:30 PM - Post#341353
In response to PennFan10
that's interesting, I had gotten the impression from josh's article that he was a bench piece but I realized it doesn't say that, it just says his PPG.
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PennFan10
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2023 Commitment
05-12-22 02:53 PM - Post#341368
In response to Jeff2sf
Looks like he is a starter but he is a 12-15m a game guy (games are usually 30m I believe). Could be a bench guy, from reviewing the stat pages it looks like he starts but no way to know exactly without seeing the games. They have 4 guys who average 20+ minutes and 2-3 others at about the same minutes as Sam (12-15)
Edited by PennFan10 on 05-12-22 02:54 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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91Quake
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06-26-22 02:45 PM - Post#342673
In response to PennFan10
According to the fine folks at cityofbasketballlove.com Sam Brown is now "sidelined with a broken foot."
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Penndemonium
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06-27-22 12:23 PM - Post#342687
In response to 91Quake
Wishing Brown a speedy and full recovery.
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AsiaSunset
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06-27-22 06:07 PM - Post#342713
In response to Penndemonium
A foot injury? He should be a perfect fit for us.
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jmverlin
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06-30-22 11:47 AM - Post#342857
In response to AsiaSunset
I haven't been on the board in a while, but saw this thread and wanted to comment: I think Sam Brown is terrific. Has gotten SO much better between freshman and junior year. I have high expectations for him in a Quakers uniform. Tough, good handle, really good shooter, did I mention tough? You guys will really like his mindset/mentality and I think his skills will translate.
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Silver Maple
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06-30-22 01:24 PM - Post#342866
In response to jmverlin
I'm getting the impression he's tough. That's good. Some of Penn's best players over the decades have been so described.
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GoQuakersGo
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06-30-22 02:10 PM - Post#342871
In response to Silver Maple
Josh, any other names in the area we should be paying attention to as Penn targets?
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jmverlin
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06-30-22 02:15 PM - Post#342874
In response to GoQuakersGo
Honestly, I'm still getting my bearings back on that point. I don't have any more insight than you all might on local Penn targets, at least at the moment.
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GoQuakersGo
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06-30-22 02:28 PM - Post#342879
In response to jmverlin
No worries. Really appreciate all your work!
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Eric Von Zipper
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Re: 2023 Commitment
06-30-22 03:01 PM - Post#342883
In response to AsiaSunset
Is that like Marion the Librarian?
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