Eric Von Zipper
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Reg: 11-11-17
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02-03-23 01:33 PM - Post#350661
Princeton -3 O/U 157
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SRP
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02-03-23 08:30 PM - Post#350688
In response to Eric Von Zipper
Am I crazy or is Cornell getting a lot of benefit of the doubt on fouls on both ends?
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gokinsmen
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Reg: 02-06-10
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Cornell
02-03-23 08:35 PM - Post#350689
In response to Eric Von Zipper
One terrible TO after another. Langborg with 4 himself and he got benched by Mitch.
Lacking any sense of urgency, just slopping the ball around. Afraid to get physical on defense.
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SRP
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02-03-23 08:38 PM - Post#350690
In response to gokinsmen
Cornell getting a lot of iso post-ups with no help on D. And they're D has been pretty aggressive, with the Tigers helping them out some.
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gokinsmen
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Cornell
02-03-23 08:45 PM - Post#350692
In response to gokinsmen
That hard-nose defense we saw in the first Ivy 6 games has completely disappeared.
The guys look like they don't want to play tonight. So sluggish and stagnant. Mitch needs to tear into them at halftime - this is unacceptable.
And on a night honoring those all-time great teams, no less.
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SRP
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02-03-23 08:50 PM - Post#350694
In response to gokinsmen
The plan on D appears to be to hug the three-point line and challenge Cornell to finish one-on-one. So far, the Big Red's scorers are meeting that challenge. Either better one-on-one defense or an adjustment that gambles on letting Cornell take a few more treys will be needed.
On the other end, the thinking and moving both seem a beat slow. Too many turnovers and out of rhythm shots, and the floor doesn't seem spread right when the Cornell half-court traps show up.
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TigerFan
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Reg: 11-21-04
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02-03-23 08:56 PM - Post#350695
In response to SRP
On the night that Princeton celebrated one of the greatest eras in Princeton basketball, and brought a ton of former players and coaches back to Jadwin, this team laid an egg in the first half. Ryan is a turnover machine, our guys are not spaced on the floor and the defense has been thoroughly embarrassed by a Cornell team that came ready to play as if their lives depended on it. Other than a nice run of hot shooting early, this has been a terrible disappointment.
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1LotteryPick1969
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Reg: 11-21-04
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02-03-23 08:56 PM - Post#350696
In response to SRP
Cornell's half court defense is uncanny--seems like they have six guys out there.
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gokinsmen
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02-03-23 09:02 PM - Post#350697
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Our guys aren't moving on either end.
I've seen this so many times from MH's teams: if we get an early lead due to hot 3pt shooting, our guys start standing around on both ends.
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gokinsmen
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02-03-23 09:10 PM - Post#350699
In response to gokinsmen
Finally some energy - starting on defense.
Mitch needs to adjust to Ivy refs. They're allowing a lot of grabbing and reaching on defense, but we're still contact-phobic.
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SRP
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02-03-23 09:13 PM - Post#350700
In response to gokinsmen
The D has picked up a lot this half. The offense, though, still looks out of sorts to me. They need to punish the Big Red's overloads by reversing the ball, either by going around the horn or with a skip pass, then diving to the rim as the defense shifts to recover.
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SRP
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02-03-23 09:18 PM - Post#350702
In response to SRP
Tosan needs to watch some old Spencer Weisz tape to see how to drive into traffic in the middle from the wing and then pass out to the perimeter.
Austin just seems a great fit for playing Cornell.
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gokinsmen
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02-03-23 09:18 PM - Post#350703
In response to SRP
I'd like to see Lee attack the rim - he was in the game but didn't drive once.
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1LotteryPick1969
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02-03-23 09:21 PM - Post#350704
In response to gokinsmen
Blake "Three-ters"
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SRP
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02-03-23 09:22 PM - Post#350705
In response to gokinsmen
They seemed to have scouted Lee--there were three guys in front of him most of the time when he might have tried to drive.
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TigerFan
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Reg: 11-21-04
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02-03-23 09:22 PM - Post#350706
In response to gokinsmen
Great run to come back from 13 down to go up 1. Completely different team this half. And man is #24 hot from distance! Whee!
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SRP
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02-03-23 09:22 PM - Post#350707
In response to TigerFan
Peters is a weapon.
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gokinsmen
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Cornell
02-03-23 09:24 PM - Post#350708
In response to gokinsmen
Peters has rediscovered his 3pt stroke.
2nd half 3s are gold. 1st half 3s are fool's gold.
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gokinsmen
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02-03-23 09:29 PM - Post#350710
In response to gokinsmen
Love Deven's emphatic dunk! We need that energy.
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gokinsmen
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02-03-23 09:31 PM - Post#350711
In response to gokinsmen
Langborg and his TOs... yikes. I think 4 of 5 have led directly to a Cornell bucket. What happened to him this season?
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SRP
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02-03-23 09:31 PM - Post#350712
In response to gokinsmen
Langborg got fouled on a layup--no call. Raglin travels--no call.
But Ryan really shouldn't let Dolan pick his pocket on his crossover move.
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1LotteryPick1969
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02-03-23 09:37 PM - Post#350713
In response to SRP
Ryan can catch, then shoot or drive. But not a perimeter ball handler.
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SRP
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02-03-23 09:40 PM - Post#350714
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Pretty iffy charge call on Lee. Defender was sliding and not set.
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1LotteryPick1969
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02-03-23 09:43 PM - Post#350715
In response to SRP
Rage, rage against the dying of the lead.
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gokinsmen
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Cornell
02-03-23 09:46 PM - Post#350716
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
I love these freshmen. Pierce and Austin in particular have a fire that I haven't seen in a while. More than anyone, they led this comeback with their defensive energy.
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SRP
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02-03-23 09:47 PM - Post#350717
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Austin's energy and explosiveness is making a difference in this stretch. Even his defensive rebounds in traffic are big.
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Cornell
02-03-23 09:48 PM - Post#350718
In response to gokinsmen
Lee is the fastest man on the floor while dribbling, but he is not quite sure of himself in the lane.
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gokinsmen
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02-03-23 09:49 PM - Post#350719
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Lee, like all speedy guards, needs to develop a floater. Dingle feasts because of it.
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1LotteryPick1969
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02-03-23 09:55 PM - Post#350720
In response to gokinsmen
I don't think ANY Princeton guard has had a good floater.
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SRP
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02-03-23 09:55 PM - Post#350721
In response to gokinsmen
Surprised Gray doesn't get more minutes for Cornell.
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SRP
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02-03-23 09:57 PM - Post#350723
In response to SRP
Tosan mugged, but it's called a jump ball for Cornell. Fortunately up 7.
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gokinsmen
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02-03-23 10:01 PM - Post#350724
In response to SRP
That's the 2nd time that happened in the past few minutes. That one kept Cornell in the game with the ensuing 3.
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SRP
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02-03-23 10:02 PM - Post#350725
In response to gokinsmen
Austin with a terrible foul.
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SRP
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02-03-23 10:03 PM - Post#350726
In response to SRP
And he makes up for it with an and-one.
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SRP
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02-03-23 10:04 PM - Post#350728
In response to SRP
Then fouls out on a bogus call. This is a bizarrely officiated game.
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1LotteryPick1969
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02-03-23 10:05 PM - Post#350729
In response to SRP
Fifth foul on Austin was bogus.
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SRP
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02-03-23 10:07 PM - Post#350730
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Tigers pull it out with good foul shooting. MH's 200th win.
Cornell must be getting a complex about Princeton. They were up 13 early in the second half. Tiger D really slowed them down after the first 20 minutes.
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gokinsmen
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Cornell
02-03-23 10:08 PM - Post#350731
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
WHEW.
First half was an embarrassing disaster. After the Yale loss, after the pre-game ceremonies, you'd think they'd come out PUMPED... but nope. They hit a few 3s and took it easy the rest of the half.
Second half was the team that started Ivy play 5-1 despite 4 road games. Smothering, physical D and contributions from our freshmen. Austin and Pierce led the way on defense and Blake Peters saved us on offense with Langborg out of sorts again.
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SRP
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02-03-23 10:11 PM - Post#350732
In response to gokinsmen
Alloco was really good down the stretch, breaking the press, hitting FTs, playing tough D.
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gokinsmen
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Cornell
02-03-23 10:18 PM - Post#350735
In response to SRP
I'm not kidding when I say I hope we never start hot from 3 ever again.
Every damn time we begin 3-3, 4-5, 5-7, we lose our intensity for the rest of the half - if not the rest of the game. I don't want to go 0-8 or anything, but 2-8 is fine with me.
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LocalTiger
Masters Student
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Reg: 11-15-17
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02-04-23 08:06 AM - Post#350749
In response to gokinsmen
Second half rally leaves us all alone in first.
Teams are often flat after the kind of ceremony
that receded last night's game, but it was great to
see the old guys return. Even stars from the '70s
were back.
The defensive intensity for most of the second half was the difference, and Austin's athleticism gives Princeton an
added dimension.
Tosan again played through all kinds of fouls to get big baskets and
assists. It is rare to see a recognized star get so few calls.
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sparman
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02-04-23 09:06 AM - Post#350751
In response to SRP
Cornell must be getting a complex about Princeton.
It wasn't so long ago that some people thought Coach Earl had Mitch's number.
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Cornell
02-04-23 09:52 AM - Post#350754
In response to gokinsmen
I find Cornell games to be the most entertaining of all the Ivy opponents.
Even though I very much like MH, I had hoped BE would get the job when SJ left.
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