iogyhufi
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03-04-23 11:54 PM - Post#353110
After today's slate of games, the field is set.
Saturday, March 11
Yale vs. Cornell, 11am
Princeton vs. Penn, 1:30pm
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iogyhufi
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Re: Ivy Madness MBB
03-04-23 11:55 PM - Post#353111
In response to iogyhufi
Separately, if anyone needs a ticket to the ILT, let me know. My plans changed a bit abruptly and now I can't go.
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iogyhufi
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Re: Ivy Madness MBB
03-08-23 07:37 PM - Post#353502
In response to iogyhufi
Even the august KenPom has been snookered by the Ed Cooley comments. I have no earthly idea why everyone has decided to agitate for an 8-team Ivy tournament this year. For one, I don't know why "the regular season should have meaning" is a controversial opinion. For another, the Ancient Eight isn't the only league that leaves teams out of its postseason tourney (I know the MAC and America East also do, others probably do too).
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Tiger84
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03-08-23 10:09 PM - Post#353522
In response to iogyhufi
It would be possible to give the regular season meaning by giving home court advantage.
It is possible to have the MBB and WBB tourneys in the same location, which is a good thing.
But you can’t do both.
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TigerFan
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Re: Ivy Madness MBB
03-08-23 10:45 PM - Post#353524
In response to iogyhufi
It’s just not fair!!! Is growing noise on this front the result of an under the radar campaign by our poor colleagues in Cambridge who have failed to make the thingy after the 14-game tournament two years in a row?
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OldBig5
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Re: Ivy Madness MBB
03-09-23 11:31 AM - Post#353559
In response to TigerFan
It’s just not fair!!! Is growing noise on this front the result of an under the radar campaign by our poor colleagues in Cambridge who have failed to make the thingy after the 14-game tournament two years in a row?
Tommy and Ed seen having lunch together?
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iogyhufi
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Re: Ivy Madness MBB
03-09-23 12:03 PM - Post#353562
In response to OldBig5
Certainly if the IL is going to continue to refuse to pay for a neutral site, it can't just let every team in. Letting the 8 seed host the ILT would be egregious.
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Streamers
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Re: Ivy Madness MBB
03-09-23 12:11 PM - Post#353563
In response to iogyhufi
Certainly if the IL is going to continue to refuse to pay for a neutral site, it can't just let every team in. Letting the 8 seed host the ILT would be egregious.
Perhaps, but absolutely on-brand...
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LocalTiger
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03-09-23 12:46 PM - Post#353565
In response to Streamers
there is also the practical problem that not all of the venues
could accommodate the fans from eight schools.
Maybe the first round is at the site of the higher seed
the weekend before, and the current format follows?
But that would require compressing the regular season,
maybe returning to the old back-to-back format.
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iogyhufi
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Ivy Madness MBB
03-09-23 12:53 PM - Post#353566
In response to LocalTiger
I agree, but I'm not sure the League does. For heaven's sake, Dartmouth is scheduled to host the 2025-26 ILT. Hosting even four teams in a tiny gym in a town that's extremely difficult to get to with only two hotels would be just fantastic, I'm sure.
Edited by iogyhufi on 03-09-23 12:54 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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palestra38
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Re: Ivy Madness MBB
03-09-23 01:01 PM - Post#353568
In response to iogyhufi
Yurts!
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penn nation
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03-09-23 01:06 PM - Post#353569
In response to palestra38
Ivy Madness!
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palestra38
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03-09-23 02:00 PM - Post#353570
In response to penn nation
I want the hospitality concession for Ivy Madness at Hanover---"The Everest Base Camp Experience!"
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Albert08
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03-09-23 02:20 PM - Post#353573
In response to palestra38
Has the League given a clear explanation for why they moved the 2024 tournament from the Pizz in Providence to Levien in NYC? Could it have to do with the realization of exactly the concerns that are expressed above?
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palestra38
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03-09-23 02:24 PM - Post#353575
In response to Albert08
This was the statement made (not very convincing):
https://ivyhoopsonline.com/2023/02/08/2024-ivy-l ea...
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Old Bear
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03-09-23 02:48 PM - Post#353581
In response to Albert08
Providence has plenty of hotels and the Pizz has as much seating as Harvard.
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palestra38
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03-09-23 03:44 PM - Post#353583
In response to Old Bear
1200 more, actually (2800 to 1623 for Lavietes)
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LocalTiger
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03-09-23 06:59 PM - Post#353603
In response to palestra38
I agree it is a small gym and there are not many hotel options,
but Hanover may be my favorite Ivy town to visit. The
Hanover Inn is great, and the area is beautiful.
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weinhauers_ghost
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Re: Ivy Madness MBB
03-09-23 08:33 PM - Post#353613
In response to iogyhufi
I agree, but I'm not sure the League does. For heaven's sake, Dartmouth is scheduled to host the 2025-26 ILT. Hosting even four teams in a tiny gym in a town that's extremely difficult to get to with only two hotels would be just fantastic, I'm sure.
Throw in a March blizzard for extra chaos.
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Chip Bayers
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03-10-23 11:50 AM - Post#353637
In response to LocalTiger
I agree it is a small gym and there are not many hotel options,
but Hanover may be my favorite Ivy town to visit. The
Hanover Inn is great, and the area is beautiful.
Gonna be great in a few years when one school which expects to get both men’s and women’s teams in pre-books that whole place for its party of players, coaches, families, and big donors, while everyone else has to commute from Manchester.
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penn nation
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Ivy Madness MBB
03-10-23 11:55 AM - Post#353638
In response to Chip Bayers
And there's always the threat of a March snowstorm in Hanover to enhance the Madness.
I agree it is a small gym and there are not many hotel options,
but Hanover may be my favorite Ivy town to visit. The
Hanover Inn is great, and the area is beautiful.
Gonna be great in a few years when one school which expects to get both men’s and women’s teams in pre-books that whole place for its party of players, coaches, families, and big donors, while everyone else has to commute from Manchester.
Edited by penn nation on 03-10-23 11:55 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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CM
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03-10-23 11:59 AM - Post#353640
In response to Old Bear
I've been to every Ivy gym and the Pizz is by far the worst to watch a game in. Lines of sight are atrocious. Leede might be small but at least you can watch the game.
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CM
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03-10-23 12:01 PM - Post#353641
In response to Chip Bayers
Google Lebanon NH hotels and you'll find there's actually plenty of hotel rooms, just not in Hanover itself.
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palestra38
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03-10-23 12:05 PM - Post#353642
In response to CM
I never understood why they built it when they had a 3000 seat arena in Marvel Gym. And I certainly don't understand why Harvard raised money for a 4500 seat arena and then didn't build it.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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03-10-23 10:36 PM - Post#353672
In response to palestra38
If I understand correctly, women were headed to 2bidIvy, until tonight! Announcers citing leading prognosticators in that Columbia & Princeton would both make the Dance - if they both made the championship. Ironically, our soirée just dashed that opportunity as Harvard upsets the Lions in OT. Our tournament scheme just backfired.
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LocalTiger
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03-11-23 10:11 AM - Post#353688
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
I hope this does not happen, Burt if Harvard wins today, Ivy
may get two bids.
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