dperry
Postdoc
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Loc: Houston, TX
Reg: 11-24-04
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03-11-23 03:53 PM - Post#353722
In response to LocalTiger
SRP, are you aware of other conferences with rules restricting
scholarships beyond NCAA limitations. The Patriot League used to, but no more.
as a general matter, antitrust law is concerned with agreements
among competitors: it does not scrutinize rules imposed by
a central authority.
You may think that is ridiculous, but that is antitrust law.
As others have mentioned, Alston seems to think that the NCAA is an agreement among competitors. Since it got its modern powers in large part to keep Penn and Notre Dame from sucking up all the TV football money in the '50s, that makes a lot of sense. And as others have pointed out, if you can't justify eight schools agreeing not to give schollies, how can you justify over 400 DIII schools doing the same thing? I'm sure there are some alums of Mt. Union's football program that would be willing to donate money for scholarships, for instance. Same with limitations in other sports. Also, the "Stanford and Duke can do it" thing cuts both ways: if smart and athletically talented players can get free rides at places like that, that means the Ivies have competition in the high-falutin' school market, which is probably the more relevant one.
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Dial Lodge
Sophomore
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Reg: 03-08-07
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Antitrust lawsuit over. scholarships
03-12-23 03:45 PM - Post#353909
In response to LocalTiger
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Edited by Dial Lodge on 03-12-23 03:58 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Penn90
Masters Student
Posts: 574
Reg: 11-22-04
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03-23-23 07:30 PM - Post#354966
In response to Dial Lodge
New column about the lawsuit via Yahoo Sports:
https://sports.yahoo.com/as-princeton-enters-s weet...
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palestra38
Professor
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Reg: 11-21-04
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03-23-23 08:26 PM - Post#354967
In response to Penn90
I hope the plaintiffs spend as much time in trying to convince a court how this is either price fixing when it applies to all students, not just basketball players, or that it lessens competition when there are 370 some-odd schools that do offer Division 1 scholarships. The notion that schools must offer athletic scholarships on their own independent judgment is a "Mother, May I" argument. But you never know if they'll get a judge who didn't get into an Ivy.
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CM
Masters Student
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Reg: 10-11-18
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03-30-23 06:14 PM - Post#355393
In response to Penn90
https://www.thedp.com/article/2023/03/ivy-l eague-p...
Kayla Padilla is quoted extensively:
Padilla also highlighted the discrepancy in the way other universities invest in their athletes, from chartered flights, to fuel centers, to athlete-centered spaces. Though Padilla had nothing but kind things to say about Penn and its Athletic Department, she says the transfer recruitment experience has allowed her to see “what [she] might have missed out on.”
“Not to fault Penn, but the way they treat athletes at these programs is seen as a different priority,” Padilla said.
“It’s not a fault; it’s just different,” Padilla said of the way Penn and the Ivy League operate compared to other institutions. “People are used to that because it has been so long that the league has operated like this. I think things will definitely change if this lawsuit is successful, but, even if it’s not, I think it will put some pressure on the Ivy League to make changes that can still benefit the student-athletes without having to compromise.”"
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SRP
Postdoc
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04-01-23 03:35 PM - Post#355477
In response to LocalTiger
My understanding is that for many liberal arts colleges, DIII athletics is an indirect moneymaker because it induces otherwise scarce, full-tuition (especially male) student-athletes (often with above-average academics for that school) to enroll.
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rbg
Postdoc
Posts: 3058
Reg: 10-20-14
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05-20-23 10:29 AM - Post#356368
In response to SRP
https://www.sportico.com/law/analysis/2023/ivy -lea...
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CM
Masters Student
Posts: 424
Reg: 10-11-18
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05-21-23 07:28 AM - Post#356380
In response to rbg
The march to D3 sports continues.
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