TigerFan
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03-09-24 12:38 PM - Post#364788
Tigers favored by 5 1/2. I expect a real battle at the Palestra.
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SRP
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03-09-24 02:51 PM - Post#364793
In response to TigerFan
Yeah, how many times in a row can the Tigers win in the Palestra? They’d better be locked and loaded for this game.
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TigerFan
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03-09-24 03:16 PM - Post#364800
In response to SRP
Brown just beat Yale in New Haven for the first time in forever. Tiger's are your Ivy Madness #1 seed and have at least a tie for the Ivy League Championship!
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gokinsmen
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03-09-24 03:18 PM - Post#364802
In response to SRP
Pretty shocking. Hope our guys come out fired up anyway and finish the season strong. Not just for the bragging rights of a solo title but to keep our own momentum going.
Before the season began, I thought Brown was the darkhorse to win the league (or at least the ILT). Heck, you can find an encouraging post from me in their forum after the USC game (refs bailed out USC). But after underachieving for 3.5 months, they looked totally cooked.
Now the Bears are totally reborn. Gotta be ready for an all-out war next Saturday - Brown will be as tough as Yale or Cornell.
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TigerFan
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03-09-24 03:24 PM - Post#364804
In response to gokinsmen
Tigers playing for momentum, undisputed Ivy championship, and potential seeding in the NCAA tournament. Brown is scary, combining outstanding offensive rebounding and shooting from deep.
Edited by TigerFan on 03-09-24 03:24 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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gokinsmen
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03-09-24 03:30 PM - Post#364806
In response to TigerFan
Gotta do it with defense-first. Yale jumped out to a big lead with 6/6 3pt shooting, but it didn't last. Just like our guys' hot 3pt shooting didn't save us in New Haven.
While it's fun seeing gaudy offensive stats from Lee and Pierce, it's clear that winning in the Ivy is more about ugly, defensive, Brad Stevens Butler-ball.
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LocalTiger
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03-09-24 03:31 PM - Post#364807
In response to TigerFan
Brown played us tough twice, and
they are playing better now. Their
rebounding and the overall athleticism
of their bigs make them a nightmare
match-up.
Thinking Mitch will find a way.
we need Pierce near the defensive glass.
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SRP
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03-09-24 07:13 PM - Post#364833
In response to LocalTiger
13-4 start with strong play on both ends is encouraging. Penn Senior Day lineup not that hot. PU is playing hard, though.
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SRP
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03-09-24 07:20 PM - Post#364834
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27-14 with hot three-point shooting a key. A couple of coverage busts when double-teaming Slajchert are troubling.
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TigerFan
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03-09-24 07:20 PM - Post#364835
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Tigers red hot! Up 27-14 with ten to play.
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TigerFan
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03-09-24 07:25 PM - Post#364836
In response to TigerFan
Shooting clinic continues 33-18. Tigers double teaming Slajchert and letting mustache get his points.
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sparman
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03-09-24 07:25 PM - Post#364837
In response to TigerFan
Reminiscent of the Missouri game a year ago.
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Tiger81
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03-09-24 07:25 PM - Post#364838
In response to TigerFan
33-18, 3P shooting is crazy good, but Tigers are also getting open looks. At some point Penn is going to have to stretch their D and Pierce, Lee and Allocco can start going to the rim.
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SRP
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03-09-24 07:27 PM - Post#364839
In response to Tiger81
Penn is scoring at a decent clip but PU has been melting the rims.
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TigerFan
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03-09-24 07:34 PM - Post#364840
In response to SRP
Tigers go up 18 and Mitch brings in Huggins for what I think may be his first appearance in the first half in months.
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sparman
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03-09-24 07:35 PM - Post#364841
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Breakneck game speed.
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SRP
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03-09-24 07:42 PM - Post#364842
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49-34 lead at the half. Nice effort, but the D honestly could be better.
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gokinsmen
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03-09-24 07:44 PM - Post#364843
In response to sparman
Yowzah - it sure is nice to see a great 3pt shooting game going into the ILT. But I don't want to see the same volume of 3s in the 2nd half. That doesn't win championships.
Penn will probably make one last big push in the 2nd half - it is Senior Night after all. Use the clock. Take care of the ball. And let Davis shoot some midrange Js. I really think he's gonna save us at least once during the ILT.
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TigerFan
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03-09-24 07:44 PM - Post#364844
In response to SRP
49 points at the half! Tigers are on fire! Clearly giving up inside shots to prevent threes.
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Tiger81
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03-09-24 07:46 PM - Post#364845
In response to sparman
49-34 at the half, 12-19 3P. Coach Henderson says they need to play better interior D. In any case, concerns that the Tigers might get caught sleeping in a trap game appear unfounded. They are playing with energy and moving the ball well. Penn has missed a lot of shots so second half could see some reversion to the mean and a tighter game. But the Quaker D has been soft and Princeton’s scoring has been prolific.
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TigerFan
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03-09-24 07:57 PM - Post#364848
In response to Tiger81
Great to see the Tigers play 9 guys in the first half. Hicke had a nice hustle play tipping an offense rebound back to a teammate to keep a possession alive that ended in a three. Dalen's shot looks as smooth as ever and he had some nice defensive efforts. Mitch can bring Scott in to rest one of our "bigs" without losing too much height and strength. Huggins needs more time but holds his own. All great signs heading to what will be a really tough back to back (if we get by Brown, which will be a helluva challenge).
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gokinsmen
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03-09-24 08:06 PM - Post#364849
In response to TigerFan
Martini Time: Because it's THREE o'clock somewhere.
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SRP
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03-09-24 08:11 PM - Post#364852
In response to gokinsmen
Still up 15 after the first 4:45 is good. But Penn is drawing a lot of fouls now .
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TigerFan
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03-09-24 08:16 PM - Post#364853
In response to SRP
Announcer just said Alloco is shooting 64% from the line. He's shooting 92%.
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SRP
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03-09-24 08:20 PM - Post#364855
In response to TigerFan
Also said he’s a junior.
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TigerFan
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03-09-24 08:21 PM - Post#364856
In response to TigerFan
Quakers slowly creeping closer. Lead down to 12 with chance to cut it to 11. Still a lot of game left.
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jeromelh
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03-09-24 08:21 PM - Post#364857
In response to SRP
I am getting concerned
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SRP
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03-09-24 08:21 PM - Post#364858
In response to SRP
Officials not allowing post defense on either end now. Verticality my a**.
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Tiger81
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03-09-24 08:22 PM - Post#364860
In response to TigerFan
Penn getting to the foul line a lot, Tiger offense is stagnating and the game is getting tighter. And those announcers are unabashed homers.
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TigerFan
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03-09-24 08:22 PM - Post#364861
In response to TigerFan
Feels like out guys can get to the hole any time they want, but they've missed some bunnies.
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SRP
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03-09-24 08:27 PM - Post#364864
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Scoring at the rim a few times in a row. Lead is still over a point per minute left.
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SRP
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03-09-24 08:28 PM - Post#364865
In response to SRP
Hard not sympathize with the Penn fans who want to see more of Holland. He’s hurting the Tigers a lot.
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mmp629
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03-09-24 08:31 PM - Post#364867
In response to SRP
Penn getting too much help from the refs.
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SRP
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03-09-24 08:33 PM - Post#364869
In response to mmp629
80-68 with about eight minutes to go, PU headed to the line. This game is going to be good for the KenPom O ranking, but not so much for the D.
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gokinsmen
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03-09-24 08:34 PM - Post#364870
In response to mmp629
It's been fair reffing outside of 3 shooting fouls called after our guys already had the rebound in hand. There's late whistles and laaaaate whistles.
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sparman
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03-09-24 08:38 PM - Post#364871
In response to Tiger81
Penn getting to the foul line a lot, Tiger offense is stagnating and the game is getting tighter. And those announcers are unabashed homers.
I can't complain about the announcers' interest in Penn. They're Penn's home broadcasters and/ alums, and while their accuracy may be suspect, IMO they are giving Tigers plenty of props.
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gokinsmen
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03-09-24 08:41 PM - Post#364872
In response to gokinsmen
Career highs for Pierce (32pts) and Martini (23pts). I'm really gonna miss Zach.
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TigerFan
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03-09-24 08:44 PM - Post#364875
In response to sparman
Pierce needs one more rebound for yet another double double--currently 32 points and 9 rebounds, 4 assists. POY.
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Tiger81
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03-09-24 08:46 PM - Post#364878
In response to TigerFan
He is making his case. Wolf has faded a bit down the stretch and Pierce has been outstanding.
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gokinsmen
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03-09-24 08:47 PM - Post#364879
In response to TigerFan
Starters minus Peters done for the night. Coming up on the first 100pt game of the season!
EDIT: There it is. Gakwasi makes it 101.
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Tiger81
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03-09-24 08:49 PM - Post#364880
In response to gokinsmen
Cheesesteaks!
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mmp629
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Re: Penn II
03-09-24 08:49 PM - Post#364881
In response to gokinsmen
I am a terrible, terrible homer.
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TigerFan
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03-09-24 08:49 PM - Post#364882
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Free cheesesteaks!
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gokinsmen
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03-09-24 08:49 PM - Post#364883
In response to Tiger81
He is making his case. Wolf has faded a bit down the stretch and Pierce has been outstanding.
It's 100% between Pierce and Lee. Pierce has been better offensively down the stretch but Lee has greatly boosted his rebounding and assist totals while drawing constant double-teams.
Whomever MH picks as the team's candidate should get it.
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gokinsmen
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03-09-24 08:54 PM - Post#364887
In response to gokinsmen
105-83. I did not see that coming. Love that they didn't just keep jacking up 3s in the 2nd half (outside of Martini, whose job it is to do just that).
Vegas once again must be scratching their heads at Ivy hoops. Don't bet on these games, sports bettors. Even us fans who watch every one can't predict much.
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SRP
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03-09-24 09:06 PM - Post#364893
In response to gokinsmen
That was great offensive execution against a weak defensive team. Nice finish to the season with a cheesesteaking 22-point win and the solo league title to boot.
Once again PU now has to do the dumb conference tournament and try to beat a tough team for the third time just to get another crack at either of the teams it already outperformed in a single-elimination setting. But the game should be intense, so there’s that.
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whitakk
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03-09-24 09:45 PM - Post#364901
In response to SRP
33-65 from three in the two Penn games this year lol
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gokinsmen
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03-09-24 09:50 PM - Post#364902
In response to whitakk
I'm most impressed that they went 12-19 in the first half but only took 8 threes in the second half. It's exactly what I was hoping for. Even if the threes are falling, never settle for just that.
Heading into the ILT, we gotta make opposing defenses work. Even a super-deep team like Cornell isn't immune to getting tired and missing open shots late in games. I want to see scores like 70-62 next weekend.
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Tiger81
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03-09-24 09:52 PM - Post#364903
In response to SRP
At least they won’t be playing the ILT on the home floor of one of their opponents. Still can’t get my head around having to re-win the right to be the sole Ivy entry in the NCAAs, but I probably need to get over that. This is the strongest field ever for the ILT and I can see any of the 4 seeds winning two games in a row at Levien.
Except for the train wreck in Ithaca, Princeton has been a very hard team to beat this year and I know they will be ready next weekend.
As for POY being between Pierce and Lee, the Penn announcers referred to Wolf as the “presumptive POY”. I believe Pierce has been a bigger factor in more games than any player in the league, but we will see what the coaches think.
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ToothlessTiger
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03-10-24 12:41 AM - Post#364922
In response to Tiger81
1. Pierce ought to be POY
2. Next week is the ultimate back to back. A deep field and everyone on short rest. Whew!
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1LotteryPick1969
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03-10-24 11:34 AM - Post#364951
In response to ToothlessTiger
Going into the year, I thought we would be 3rd or 4th in the league at best. The achievements of this cohort have been extraordinary, and I only hope it can continue. Such a TEAM.
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Bryan
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03-10-24 12:32 PM - Post#364958
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
From the play-by-play it looks like Princeton had 65 possessions in the game and Penn had 66. So, the Tigers scored 1.62 points per possession and the Quakers 1.26 per possession. That was a terrific offensive game by Princeton (17-27 on 3's and only 3 turnovers will do that) but the defense was not good. Some of the lack of defensive intensity was likely score related, as Princeton led by 10 or more points for more than the last 30 minutes, but for the Tigers to win the ILT they'll need to be better on defense than they were yesterday.
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SRP
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03-10-24 04:09 PM - Post#364979
In response to Bryan
Yes, we cannot expect Brown to play the superconductor defense we saw from Penn. Stops will be needed, and the defensive intensity will have to be much higher.
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