Chet Forte
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03-09-24 06:12 PM - Post#364829
We made a game of it for the first half and the first few minutes of the second half. At about the 12 minute mark we couldn’t do a thing and Cornell rolled over us.
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palestra38
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Re: Eating my words
03-09-24 06:22 PM - Post#364830
In response to Chet Forte
Yeah, Cornell is better than you thought. Really good coach, too.
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Columbia 37P6
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03-09-24 08:17 PM - Post#364854
In response to palestra38
I give everyone on this Board credit for still standing up in the ring after being punched silly by Pilling and Engles for years. As I recently said on this Board, it had to be evident to Engles and Pilling from the beginning of the season that Columbia would be way overmatched physically in the paint by nearly all their opponents. Yet, that fact was never revealed publicly to the Columbia Fan Base. Engles is a proven loser and should have been canned years ago. Pilling needs to replace him
immediately with someone better who can compete
effectively with all the excellent coaches in the Ivy League. I am not going to make any dire predictions, but this year's 4-10 record in the Ivy League may be Columbia's high water mark. It all depends on the feelings of the players and I worry that they may be very unhappy.
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cc66
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03-09-24 08:43 PM - Post#364873
In response to Columbia 37P6
Why do you think 4-10 is the high point? With the recruits that are coming, I would think we'd win twice as many games next year. Of course, it all depends on what happens upfront. If Nweke is healthy and can give us some good minutes, Mason Ritter provides some heft, and/or Tavroff/BeDRI improve, we will be a lot better.
Also, what do you mean by Piling and Engles failing to "reveal publicly" that our front line was weak? Exactly what kind of public announcement were they supposed to make?
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Chet Forte
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03-09-24 11:29 PM - Post#364913
In response to cc66
Pilling is staying with Engles. So we should stop kidding ourselves.
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Columbia 37P6
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03-09-24 11:32 PM - Post#364915
In response to cc66
You raise a couple of fair questions. My concern that this year's 4-10 Ivy League record may be the high point for years to come is rimarily based upon the fact that the team's record under Engles the last three years was 1-13, 1-13, 2-12 and 4-10. I just cannot be very sanguine about that four year record, or others. If a coach wins only one Ivy League Game in each of two seasons and then wins two games in the third, season, and finally wins four games in the fourth season, I wouldn't consider that a good and positive trend. I cannot get very excited if a coach who only wins one Ivy League Game in two consecutive seasons and only two games in the next season, doubles his total wins in the next season. The four win season seems tainted to me. If Engles doubled his predecessor's wins, I would agree that's a positive, but when your doubling your own wins, that's just not a positive to me. As to your other question, my concern, which I believe you share, is that I do not remember receiving any detailed information from anyone in the Administration about almost anything involving the Columbia Men's Basketball Program. Nothing at all. Every coach I have known in any manner whether as an athlete, alum or just as a friend, has been more communicative than Engles and Pilling. I just like coaches and athletic directors who are good communicators and show some emotion. That's just me and you and others can certainly disagree. My biggest concern with the Columbia Men's Basketball Program is my feeling that
at least some of the current players may have lost confidence in Coach Engles because of all the losses
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cc66
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03-10-24 08:28 AM - Post#364929
In response to Columbia 37P6
I agree that there should be more and better communication from the athletics department. But that's very different than Pilling or Engles making an announcement in November that we have a lousy front line.
I have no inside information about how the players feel. Are they aware of their own limitations, or do they blame the coach? I am sure they are frustrated, but if you have info. beyond that, then you know something I don't know.
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Chet Forte
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03-10-24 09:58 AM - Post#364938
In response to cc66
Look at all of the information we are getting from Poppe, Griffith and Boretti. From MBB we get a ghostwritten two paragraphs once every blue moon, replete with typos, misspellings and 0 substantive information. In other words, we get bupkas.
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cc66
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03-10-24 12:55 PM - Post#364962
In response to Chet Forte
Wow! Yiddish is among the words we eat!
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