iogyhufi
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03-10-24 08:41 AM - Post#364931
The Ivy League officially announced the match-ups for the ILT this morning (not that we were unsure), so now seems as good a time as any to start the thread. My optimistic side says that it's good that Yale just got embarrassed on the boards, because that was also a big part of the loss in Ithaca, and I'm sure the Bulldogs will focus on rebounding in practice this week.
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iogyhufi
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Re: Cornell ILT
03-10-24 08:45 AM - Post#364932
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Amusing point of trivia: every time Yale has been the 2 seed in the ILT, they've won it.
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james
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03-12-24 12:07 PM - Post#365048
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yes. i hope JJ has these boys on a steady diet of "Bull in the ring" for long intervals
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squats/power cleans with a trash can by the rack
the drivers of the brown loss were inexcusable and concerning. get tough or its over.
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03-12-24 07:06 PM - Post#365067
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You sound like the lyrics to A Boy Named Sue. Maybe Jones should start calling somebody Sue at practice.
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james
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03-12-24 07:40 PM - Post#365069
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haha.
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james
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03-13-24 07:57 AM - Post#365076
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games appear to be sold out.
its the best place to do the tournament given the alumni base. we can quibble with columbia vs fordham (neutral) but the games on the UWS always had good turnout bc of this fact.
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iogyhufi
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03-13-24 10:33 AM - Post#365080
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I've been thinking about what a Yale win this weekend would look like. I think it'll come down to turnovers and rebounding. If Yale doesn't turn the ball over too much and wins the boards, I like their chances. (They've done pretty well recently to keep good shooters from getting clean looks, but obviously that'll be important too.)
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james
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03-13-24 12:28 PM - Post#365082
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i think that's the right formula for this team.
sometimes it's easier to figure out what doesnt work.
i think playing more like st marys did last night against the zags and leveraging strengths and less like we did against brown, outscoring them until we didnt.
of course that game last night was physical and also depends on what the refs allow.
if we show toughness and grit on the boards and protecting the ball--i can live if we get out-finessed or shot out of the gym assuming we have a hand in the face.
its like the last shot from brown was what it was, but the other piece was so painful to watch even when we were up.
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ToothlessTiger
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03-13-24 09:30 PM - Post#365141
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Two Grammies, one for Johnny Cash and one for the writer, Shel Silverstein, 1970 I think
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james
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03-14-24 11:51 AM - Post#365168
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The reason this ILT is impt is NIL.
Might be the last chance we see an underclassman or two in our colors.
Where there is smoke there cld be fire I am sad to say.
Good news is aletan who will be terrific is likely off the radar for now. But nothing is certain
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james
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03-15-24 08:51 PM - Post#365297
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I how does my money on brown in Rd 1 look?
I regret it and am scared of it tho I love the spread too much
I generally love the bullish Princeton sentiment but i can be accused of being a contrarian for the sake of it so there's that.
I watched jones interview. He was my coach so I love the guy. But I think our lack of grit in too many contests is papered over by his positivity this year. There is something just off. But alas it will be decided on the floor.
I hope wolf is unmasked. The underreporting of his nose and knowlings groin status is I guess par for the course.
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03-15-24 08:54 PM - Post#365298
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Lastly dingle looked good tonight for the johnnies and ledlum was solid against #1.
Must enjoy this talent while it's there in the final 4
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03-16-24 01:15 PM - Post#365393
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"brown can win this thing"
$ $ bills y'all...I don't know if anyone can beat these guys now even if we were to grow a set and beat Cornell?
I can't tell if they even played that great. But had defenders on skates pre junk d
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gokinsmen
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Cornell ILT
03-16-24 01:19 PM - Post#365396
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We choked extremely hard. Yet another #1 seed goes down in the conference tourney. Bring on the mockery.
I don't think Brown can do it again tomorrow, but whoever wins tomorrow deserves the NCAA trip. Hottest team > best team in March. Look at FDU or St. Peter's after all.
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03-16-24 01:25 PM - Post#365400
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Brown was underrated by Vegas 2 weeks in a row.
Neither Yale nor Princeton could guard them but Henderson was smart enough to junk it up and kudos to that kid Davis.
What a half!
Given Yale played like a bunch of fairies and that probably doesn't change with this team at 2pm...I like the moneyline still pre tourney
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03-16-24 01:28 PM - Post#365402
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And shout out to my cousin's and sean Moran and all the late 80s played in the late 80s who made espn footage.
Been a tough time for those alums for a long time.
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gokinsmen
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Cornell ILT
03-16-24 01:42 PM - Post#365404
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Pierce had more mental mistakes tonight than he did all season. Lee had an illness and played like it.
I can't believe they still had a chance to win it at the end: down 3 with 44s left. But Jack Scott fouling Lilly of all people instantly ended all hope of an all-time amazing comeback.
I think we're good enough for the NIT, but what an anti-climactic ending. Could've been another special run - I hope Brown/Yale/Cornell win a NCAA game or two.
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03-16-24 01:48 PM - Post#365407
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Princeton is so good and showed it's mettle in 2h.
But brown has consistently showed for a month they are hard to guard 1-5. And they rebound well. So sometimes you have to stop them 2x a possession.
So they pressure you to outscore them. And that can be hard. The fact that mitch had the 1-3-1 and press in his bag tells you he knew.
More than Yale can say.
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james
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03-16-24 01:55 PM - Post#365408
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Basketball is an interesting sport to observe when you pretend the jerseys are reversed.
I saw one team on skates for 2/3s of game and they did thst to Yale for 1/3 of game but at Yale
brown has lots of talent and my q in early Jan was the right one. How the hell are they not winning more?
Now does Yale learn it's lesson and play w grit? Or is the early pattern that re-emerged last week the true identity?
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Cornell ILT
03-16-24 02:04 PM - Post#365411
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I said before the season that Brown was my predicted #2 in the league and the best chance to beat Yale in the ILT. I was shocked to see them play so poorly till 6 weeks ago when they flipped a switch.
To be fair, Princeton looked relatively awful last season after coughing up a 17pt lead to Yale and losing to Dartmouth. And then suddenly, they flipped a switch too. Came back down 17 at Penn, won the ILT, and went to the Sweet 16.
My only consolation is that Pierce and Lee are only sophs, Davis is a frosh, and I never thought they'd be anywhere near this good this season. I figure we got a 2-year window for another March Moment.
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