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Username Post: '24-'25 Transfer Portal        (Topic#28006)
Go Green 
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03-27-24 12:34 PM - Post#366600    
    In response to CM

  • CM Said:
t's true. He basically has to decide what's more important: getting top recruits and sending them or the NBA after one year or winning more titles. Big Blue Nation is clearly more interested in the latter.



UK says Coach Cal is staying.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/story...

 
palestra38 
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03-27-24 12:37 PM - Post#366603    
    In response to Go Green

UK and $33 million say he is staying

 
Naismith 
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03-28-24 03:57 PM - Post#366646    
    In response to james

Sure, I think I'll go to Israel and play basketball.
Maybe you missed the news back in October when you were in pre-season workouts.



 
JDP 
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03-29-24 04:48 PM - Post#366688    
    In response to Naismith

Who said we were crying wolf about the NIL

https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/17 738139821...

 
penn nation 
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03-29-24 04:51 PM - Post#366690    
    In response to JDP

I guess Harvard and Yale are finally now going to determine that now and only now there's an issue which must be dealt with leaguewide.

 
james 
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03-29-24 05:39 PM - Post#366697    
    In response to Naismith

you're a clown.

he had a strong a--s offer and will play for the national team.
but obviously i have no insight into what's in a kids head that is unrelated to me.

anyway dont worry i will limit all posts going forward
enjoy your darkness

 
gokinsmen 
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'24-'25 Transfer Portal
03-29-24 09:41 PM - Post#366723    
    In response to JDP

I guess there were rumblings about Mack and Wolf, but this is still a tipping point for the league. They need to call a Godfather-style "Five Eight Families" meeting to see what they can do to maintain their star talent.

There's still plenty of great players who see the value of being a "big fish in a small pond" and getting an Ivy degree. (Lee and Pierce seem to recognize this, so I'm relieved about that.)

But something needs to be done to help players take advantage of NIL opportunities. Not the fishy "booster collective" slush funds, but legit things like sponsorships and social media promos. This is the Ivy League - our universities have more connections to big business than any other conference.

 
JDP 
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03-29-24 09:57 PM - Post#366725    
    In response to gokinsmen

Jones from Brown WBB to Northwestern

https://x.com/Raoul_000/status/1773 865733358850436...

joins Grace Sullivan from Bucknell who also announced going to Northwestern

https://x.com/Raoul_000/status/1773 756699431571599...



 
CM 
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Re: &#039;24-&#039;25 Transfer Portal
03-30-24 05:51 AM - Post#366728    
    In response to gokinsmen

So they get a good NIL deal, then what? Since it's income it adversely effects their financial aid package. Essentially any NIL money goes straight to the university as tuition.

Listen, until the Ivys pull their heads out of their a$$es and start offering scholarships any talk of NIL deals is silly.

 
dperry 
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Re: &#039;24-&#039;25 Transfer Portal
04-03-24 10:51 PM - Post#366945    
    In response to CM

With everyone talking about how times are changing and how some coaches could work the old system but can't work the new one, I found this article interesting. It essentially makes the argument that the shoe companies created an oligopoly in college basketball, and that at least for the moment, NIL has broken that and has actually been a force for increased competition. This may or may not hold true for the Ivies, and they certainly have to be willing to play the game, but it's an interesting thought.
David Perry
Penn '92
"Hail, Alma Mater/Thy sons cheer thee now
To thee, Pennsylvania/All rivals must bow!!!"


 
CM 
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Re: &#039;24-&#039;25 Transfer Portal
04-04-24 06:32 AM - Post#366953    
    In response to dperry

I agree but haven't heard anyone offer how a robust NIL environment in the Ivys would address the financial aid issue - other than just writing off the first $X going straight towards tuition.

I might not be approaching this from the right angle, but I've not heard a solution that includes how the Ivys 'special' financial situation would work.

 
Go Green 
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Re: &#039;24-&#039;25 Transfer Portal
04-04-24 08:12 AM - Post#366954    
    In response to dperry

  • dperry Said:
With everyone talking about how times are changing and how some coaches could work the old system but can't work the new one, I found this article interesting. It essentially makes the argument that the shoe companies created an oligopoly in college basketball, and that at least for the moment, NIL has broken that and has actually been a force for increased competition. This may or may not hold true for the Ivies, and they certainly have to be willing to play the game, but it's an interesting thought.



I found that article interesting as well.

But it goes to show that Duke is screwed. In the NIL world, it is highly unlikely that they will ever reclaim their glory days. If the ACC implodes (and I think it will), Duke could very well end up in the Big East...


 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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Re: &#039;24-&#039;25 Transfer Portal
04-04-24 09:58 AM - Post#366962    
    In response to Go Green

  • Go Green Said:

But it goes to show that Duke is screwed.



Thereby making this all worth it.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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Re: &#039;24-&#039;25 Transfer Portal
04-04-24 11:18 AM - Post#366965    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

Agree.

But I find it more difficult to dislike Duke without coach K on the sidelines. His demeanor was grating.

We still have the obnoxious little "Dookies". Will they fade away?

 
Streamers 
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04-04-24 11:34 AM - Post#366968    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

That's my daughter you are talking about. Trust me, they aren't going anywhere.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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04-04-24 12:10 PM - Post#366977    
    In response to Streamers

No offense intended. I spent two years there myself for post-graduate education in the Gene Banks Foster years.

But most of them probably would have a difficult time catching a basketball if you threw them one.



 
Streamers 
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04-04-24 02:49 PM - Post#366986    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

I wasn't offended; I had as much antipathy for Duke hoops as anyone until I put it on hold for 4 years. They haven't really been good enough to hate since. I did get some insight into the culture during that time. It will transcend and survive any conference alignments.

 
SRP 
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04-04-24 03:17 PM - Post#366989    
    In response to Streamers

The only problem with the current system is that it is reducing fan interest in the NCAA men’s tournament and the sport in general. Lack of continuity in rosters makes the storylines and identification with teams weaker. The first weekend of the tournament still does great, what with all the marketing of bracketology and betting, but ratings are softening. Zach Edey and Purdue are the only long-running storyline left this year. NC State’s run and their charismatic big guy may have pulled in some extra eyeballs, and UConn may be enough of a dominant heavy to make the final against either one of these plucky contenders a compelling story. But last year’s final had horrible ratings. And God forbid if Alabama upsets UConn.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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04-04-24 04:47 PM - Post#367003    
    In response to SRP

  • SRP Said:
NC State’s charismatic big guy



How does he manage that spin move without carrying the ball and or shuffling his feet? I've looked at several clips but I can't tell.


 
penn nation 
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04-04-24 04:56 PM - Post#367004    
    In response to SRP

  • SRP Said:
The only problem with the current system is that it is reducing fan interest in the NCAA men’s tournament and the sport in general.



I'll say this, though. The NCAA women's tourney is just fantastic. The caliber of play is just unreal with these top teams, and even with some that have already been eliminated. More enjoyable to watch the women's games than the men's games...the crowds seem to be really into them as well.


 
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