columbia92
goober
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Loc: NYC
Reg: 11-22-04
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02-23-05 01:11 PM - Post#4848
With last night's result, and barring an ALCS-style collapse, the Fightin' Quakers of Pennsylvania will rep the league in the tourney again.
Best of luck to the 12 seeds from Philly.
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penn nation
Professor
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Reg: 12-02-04
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Re: Congratulations Pennsylvania
02-23-05 01:34 PM - Post#4849
In response to columbia92
Don't you know that Quakers don't fight?
As to seeding: it will be either a 13 or 14. That's pretty much a given at this point.
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The Lion King
Senior
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Reg: 11-21-04
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Re: Congratulations Pennsylvania
02-23-05 01:53 PM - Post#4850
In response to columbia92
Look, I'm a Yankee fan, and I really must object. The Yankees are #1 in everything, including chokes. All Penn has to do to fumble away the Ivy title is lose 4 of 6, including a playoff game. That's child's play. Only world-class choke artists like the Yankees can drop four straight when they have to. Why do you think they call it the Big Apple?
Seriously, while it's not likely by any means, I wouldn't call it a miracle if Cornell came back to tie. If the Big Red can win on Friday, then Penn could plausibly lose the next night at Columbia, which stayed fairly close at the Palestra. And then all you'd need would be for Princeton to win at Jadwin. Probabilities for these three events might generously be stated at 1/3, 1/4, and 1/2, so we're looking at around a 4% shot to even get to a playoff (assuming Cornell and Penn both sweep the rest of their games). But it's been a wacky year in the Ivy League, so I wouldn't write anything off.
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Howard Gensler
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Re: Congratulations Pennsylvania
02-23-05 02:41 PM - Post#4851
In response to The Lion King
Cornell, huh? Your fractions are nice but you didn't figure in the odds of Cornell beating Yale and Brown on the road. Even if Penn lost the three games you mention (an admitted long shot), the odds of them beating Dartmouth and Harvard at home are considerably better than Cornell beating Yale and Brown away from home.
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10Q
Professor
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Loc: Suburban Philly
Reg: 11-21-04
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Re: Congratulations Pennsylvania
02-23-05 03:26 PM - Post#4852
In response to Howard Gensler
If Cornell comes back to tie, I recommend we subpoena BRF for his thoughts about this matter.,
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Redfish
Masters Student
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Loc: under a bridge in Phoenix...
Reg: 11-26-04
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14th seed.
02-23-05 04:59 PM - Post#4853
In response to columbia92
I think we've been over this before.
(Now I've stirred up another hornets nest) 
Random thought: Doesn't Yale remind you of the University of Maryland this year?
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Brian Martin
Masters Student
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Loc: Washington, DC
Reg: 11-21-04
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Re: 14th seed.
02-23-05 06:10 PM - Post#4854
In response to Redfish
There is still a chance for a 6-way tie at 8-6.
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Red n Blue
Masters Student
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Loc: South Jersey
Reg: 11-29-04
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Re: 14th seed.
02-23-05 06:20 PM - Post#4855
In response to Brian Martin
Quote:
There is still a chance for a 6-way tie at 8-6.
I guess that would be one way to bring about an Ivy League tournament. I can't imagine what the seeding would be like.
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pennindian
Sophomore
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Reg: 12-09-04
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Re: 14th seed.
02-23-05 08:42 PM - Post#4856
In response to Red n Blue
Also, as everyone knows, Penn isn't locked into any seed yet. A few random upsets in the conference tournaments, and all of a sudden, Penn is sitting pretty at a 12(assuming Penn finishes the season strong.)
I think the Yale-Maryland analogy is a great one. Rises up for big games-Penn/Duke, but can't win the supposed gimmes-Brown/Clemson. There are other comparisions, but I'll stop to avoid upsetting those Elis.
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