CornellUFan
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03-09-05 01:10 AM - Post#5845
The CSTV crew is discussing the potential of Princeton making the NIT. If Princeton were to get an invite over Cornell, it would be downright shameful.
Cornell was clearly the better team this year. Cornell finished with a better Ivy League record and SWEPT the Tigers.
Sure Cornell struggled earlier this season. But this was to be expected as the Big Red had three freshmen guards (Khaliq Gant, Jason Canady and Will Scott) playing major roles in the rotation and Juco transfer Ryan Rourke also still meshing with the team.
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penn nation
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Re: Princeton to the NIT over Cornell?
03-09-05 01:25 AM - Post#5846
In response to CornellUFan
None of the non-Ps would have overall records of .500 or better. I think that's the minimum that's required for NIT consideration.
PU has a few nice wins and a "name", which I guess is enough for some. But really--a 16-12 overall record (15-12 in Division I), in a 4 way tie for 3rd, in a conference that doesn't have a fantastic RPI.....
If you would flip the name of the 4 teams that would be tied for 3rd, it's hard to really justify that other non-Princeton team making the NIT. I think the Princeton "name" and legacy are largely driving this conversation.
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pennhoops
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Re: Princeton to the NIT over Cornell?
03-09-05 02:38 AM - Post#5847
In response to CornellUFan
Cornell is 13-14. Princeton is 15-12. Why on earth would a 13-14 team get any sort of postseason bid?
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Anonymous
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Re: Princeton to the NIT over Cornell?
03-09-05 03:42 AM - Post#5848
In response to pennhoops
12-14 in D-1, I think. I think its a moot question...only place PU should be going is back to class. Their play since they came back from winter break has been so mediocre its hard to imagine even the NIT giving them serious consideration.
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Anonymous
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Re: Princeton to the NIT over Cornell?
03-09-05 11:58 AM - Post#5849
In response to
Doesn't say much for Penn's prospects since they needed OT to put away such a mediocre side at home and were played close yesterday does it Chuck?
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Anonymous
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Re: Princeton to the NIT over Cornell?
03-09-05 01:12 PM - Post#5850
In response to CornellUFan
Welcome back, BRF.
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Anonymous
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Re: Princeton to the NIT over Cornell?
03-09-05 01:23 PM - Post#5851
In response to
Nope, it sure doesn't. Much to the irritation of my fellow Penn fans I've never been very enthused about Penn's prospects in the tournament. It's a gritty team that finds a way to win. But, truth is against a Top 20 type team they're likely to find it hard to get a whole lot of points inside and they haven't shown very consistent or good outside shooting. I think they can rebound with most teams they'll face and play good defense...but, scoring points is going to be a challenge unless they play a team that really likes to score and doesn't play much D. If so, Penn may give them a run...
All that said, I do think that if the pieces fall into place the next two years could be very exciting for Penn. The sophomores are very talented and will get better, stronger more experienced. If there's a PG lurking somewhere out there and a really good shooting wing...watch out. Penn's going to have tremendous front court strength and only needs someone who can really control the ball and the offense and some consistent outside shooting to be a serious D-1 team. We'll see how that works out...
BTW, condolences on PU's season. I love beating you guys, but watching what happened this season wasn't really any fun. Something's wrong that I don't understand...
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Ancient Quaker
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Re: Princeton to the NIT over Cornell?
03-09-05 04:28 PM - Post#5852
In response to
Kind of reminds me of PU's NCAA prospects last year, when they got handled at home and had to go OT to win at the Palestra.
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penn nation
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Re: Princeton to the NIT over Cornell?
03-09-05 04:42 PM - Post#5853
In response to
Agreed, but I was shocked when reading the media accounts today, particularly from the Princeton side.
Majority of the accounts seemed to think this game was all about Princeton having a good shot at making the NITs.
Since when does a team that goes 7-7 in the Ivies (ranked 18th in the RPI), merit NIT consideration?
PU would have finished ahead of only 2 Ivy squads--they should be rewarded with an NIT appearance? Good grief--this isn't the Big 12 or Big East we're talking about here.
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12-14 in D-1, I think. I think its a moot question...only place PU should be going is back to class. Their play since they came back from winter break has been so mediocre its hard to imagine even the NIT giving them serious consideration.
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Chip Bayers
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Re: Princeton to the NIT over Cornell?
03-09-05 04:52 PM - Post#5854
In response to Ancient Quaker
Heck, the nationally-ranked media darling'98 Princeton team had to go to OT in a meaningless final regular season game to beat Penn that year.
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CUF Police
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Reg: 03-27-05
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Re: Princeton to the NIT over Cornell?
03-27-05 03:01 AM - Post#5855
In response to CornellUFan
Cornell wasn't NIT-eligible, mensa.
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Administrator
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Re: Princeton to the NIT over Cornell?
03-27-05 03:28 AM - Post#5856
In response to CUF Police
Okay, that's enough. The two of you have made this board unreadable.
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