BisonRoadWarrior
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02-05-21 03:10 PM - Post#320275
A technical question related to the latest disruptions of Bucknell's campus life: Do we know what "cycle threshold" Bucknell is using for its PCR tests?
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HuskyColonial
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02-06-21 11:27 AM - Post#320322
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
I see the game is cancelled. I don’t get what is going on? I live in Jacksonville Beach, Florida. The schools in the A-Sun have all played 18-20 games with few cancellations. Players and staff have been kept safe and they’re playing.
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BisonRoadWarrior
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Re: Bucknell Covid-19 Test Sensitivity
02-06-21 12:29 PM - Post#320325
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
A technical question related to the latest disruptions of Bucknell's campus life: Do we know what "cycle threshold" Bucknell is using for its PCR tests?
If Bucknell's answer to that question is higher than 35, it may be a cause for concern and additional questions from students and parents.
For context, there's a growing appreciation among health experts that, across the country and around the world, testing is being performed with an excessively high sensitivity.
That means many people are being called "positive cases" and condemned to quarantines and social isolation--to say nothing of sports suspensions--when they aren't and won't be sick and aren't and won't be contagious.
The dynamic was documented as early as August, in a New York Times story: "Your Coronavirus Test is Positive; Maybe It Shouldn't Be."
A key quote: "In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found."
In a recent essay at The Hill,* Duke and Stanford experts explained the consequence of excessively sensitive PCR tests: "Dead COVID-19 RNA in the nose or mouth of someone who was never sick could create a positive PCR result. Recovered patients who test negative and are non-infectious can still come up positive repeatedly in the following months. These are neither new cases nor infectious ones needing quarantine but could be incorrectly counted as such."
* "Appropriate Use of PCR Needed for Focused Response to the Pandemic"
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Paulie777
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02-06-21 01:06 PM - Post#320326
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
Bucknell is erring on the side of caution, the university really has no choice. This is disrupting the conscientious people who listen, isolate, and suffer for the greater good while others go about living life as they always have, don't wear masks, etc. I know some people who made no changes go maskless and I know some that are not leaving the house. And the virus, vaccine, and everything related to it are political, not having the concern for humanity in general. In NY. the governer has decreed that authorities can arrest you if more than 10 people are gathered in a private residence, and fortunately the local law authorities are ignoring that. And airlines are running globally. So what is it? Is this virus legit or no? We just have to adapt, for better or worse.
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Paulie777
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02-06-21 02:11 PM - Post#320328
In response to Paulie777
Its Anomie in the Durkheim sense.
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bison75
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Bucknell Covid-19 Test Sensitivity
02-06-21 04:32 PM - Post#320336
In response to Paulie777
Bucknell switches to remote instruction; president takes students to task for COVID-19 spike.
Trying to paste the actual link from PennLive.com, apparently without success. Worth reading.
Edited by bison75 on 02-06-21 04:34 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Bison137
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02-06-21 06:34 PM - Post#320337
In response to bison75
Here is that link:
Bucknell switches to remote instruction
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