palestra38
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11-04-23 09:08 PM - Post#358756
2 weeks to go, with Harvard in the lead (1 loss), but it has to play Penn (2 losses) and Yale (2 losses) in its last 2 weeks. Princeton (2 losses) plays Yale and Penn. Dartmouth (2 losses) may have the best route as it plays Cornell at home and Brown on the road.
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Streamers
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11-05-23 11:19 AM - Post#358758
In response to palestra38
Penn pretty much gave away both losses. No reason to think they can’t win out. Dartmouth isn’t much better than either of their remaining opponents. It’ll come down to the Princeton game as God intended.
That Hosely kid is strong with sprinter speed and he’s just a freshman who already holds a Penn all time rushing record.
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palestra38
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11-05-23 12:55 PM - Post#358760
In response to Streamers
Penn showed it can lose to anyone. Maybe next week will be pouring rain as it was in 2015 when they went up to Cambridge and upset Harvard. If it is a running game only, Penn wins.
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Streamers
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11-05-23 04:14 PM - Post#358764
In response to palestra38
What you mean is that, as good as Sayin can be, he can give any game away. He plays clean and Penn should win both games.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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11-06-23 05:18 PM - Post#358790
In response to Streamers
Hello 38,
Been a while since we've disagreed, and likely this year I'll merely be hoping for a meaningful basketball season.
In the meantime, why do you think that Penn wins a running game on Saturday. I see that Hosely had a breakout performance last week, but even including that game Harvard outgains Penn almost 2 to 1 on the ground while their rushing defenses are statiscally roughly comparable. Also, Penn has thrown 345 times this year, and the Crimson merely 175 tosses. I'm confused.
If it rains, I hope the Crimson break out RB Isiah Abbey again. Is he healthy? At 225lbs, he ran over and through Howard's larger defense for 120 yards on 16 carries for 3 TD's and hasn't been seen on the field since. Like QB Jaden Craig, he's a North/South guy, as opposed to McLaughlin and DiPrima.
Regardless, with Penn and Yale on the slate, the Crimson controls its own destiny.
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IvyBballFan
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11-06-23 07:07 PM - Post#358798
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Regardless, with Penn and Yale on the slate, the Crimson controls its own destiny.
This is true. However, THE GAME has been very competitive the past few years. Winning at the Bowl will probably be a chore for Harvard.
If Yale and Dartmouth win out and Harvard holds serve against Penn, it's a three way tie at the top.
If Yale, Dartmouth, and Penn win out, it's also a three way tie with the Crimson squeezed out.
Most entertaining Ivy football season in recent memory!
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Naismith
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11-07-23 02:59 PM - Post#358870
In response to IvyBballFan
If Harvard holds serve against Penn at home Saturday, they're 2023 Ivy Co-Champions at worst. Not bad for a team picked to finish 5th or 6th by the "Pundits" in August.
Of course it would be sweeter to close it out with triumph at the Bowl on national television and a Coach of the Year salute to Tim Murphy.
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Go Green
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11-07-23 04:42 PM - Post#358876
In response to Naismith
If Harvard holds serve against Penn at home Saturday, they're 2023 Ivy Co-Champions at worst. Not bad for a team picked to finish 5th or 6th by the "Pundits" in August.
Of course it would be sweeter to close it out with triumph at the Bowl on national television and a Coach of the Year salute to Tim Murphy.
If Dartmouth wins out, I'm betting that COY will go to Sammy McCorkle for taking the Big Green to a 5-2 Ivy record despite an absolute nightmare of an offseason...
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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11-15-23 04:20 PM - Post#359235
In response to Go Green
Finally got around watching last Saturday's Harvard/Penn game. Both teams blew chances to win the game before Harvard prevailed in OT#3. Easily could have gone the other way.
Penn's freshman RB Hosley is incredibly explosive and should be a weapon for years to come. Overall, the Crimson outgained Penn on the ground 178 yards, to 114 yards, but on far more rushes (49 vs 27).
Seems that Harvard schemed to neutralize Penn's WR Richardson - and effectively did so - holding him to only 2 receptions. Penn, on the other hand, seems to have planned to stuff Harvard's run game, forcing the inexperienced QB Jaden Craig to throw. Well, Craig responded with a 23 of 36 day for 253 yards, all easily career highs. Overall, the stats reflect the tight contest we saw.
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